View Full Version : On average how long does your Adderall XR last?


Add1234
09-07-04, 05:44 PM
Honestly, I take 40mg in the morning around 8-9 am and then when it reaches to 12-1 it's gone. I mean I can't feel it anymore. I am sure its in my system however the affects are no longer working. I've read this on more than one occassion that the drug does not last the amount stated at of around 12 hours.

Please feel free to add your comments.

Alexa
09-07-04, 05:49 PM
I take a 20 mg. XR and half of a 10 mg. reg about 6:15 am (weekdays) I take a second 20 mg XR around noon and then (this part varies) I take the other half of the 10 mg sometimes around 5:30, or sometimes around 7:30. I'm still playing with dosage. But in answer to your question...NO!! the single dose of 20 mg XR does not last anywhere near 12 hrs. for me. I'm going to ask him to increase the mg. next week when I see him.

Add1234
09-07-04, 05:58 PM
Alexa, yeah I totally agree. Even at 40mg it DOES NOT last the entire day like it should. However upon requesting an inrecase my doctor said that was the highest dose that they go up to. He isn't a specialist in ADD, mainly depression. But I'm trying to make things work here with my 20mgx2 XR.

RmCL
09-08-04, 01:01 AM
I take 20 mgs. and I feel it wearing off around 4 pm. I take it around 7:30 in the morning.

Alexa
09-08-04, 12:32 PM
I keep a log. It's just a little spiral notebook and I write down the date and what I took and when. My weekdays start about 6:00 am and end about 11:00 pm and that stays pretty consistant. However my weekends vary. Sometimes I can take a 20 mg XR and the 5 mg reg at 9:00 am and then maybe a 10 mg. reg about 4:00 and I'm fine. It's all really a crap shoot! All this past weekend I couldn't stay awake much past 10-10:30, but last night I was wide awake at 11:30!! Finally got up and went to the living room and read till about 1:30. I'm thinkin this is never going to be an exact science and it just requires my being aware of both internal and external happenings and dose accordingly. I'm lucky that my Dr. allows me the leway to do this. I also make notes regarding my moods under my dosages, ie: headaches, irratibilty, good day, tired, focused, fogged, etc....it helps us both alot.

kimo
09-25-04, 10:39 AM
I take 10 mg XR between 7 and 8 am. I'd say it wears off around 3 to 4 pm. So for me, 8 hours.

cualexander
09-26-04, 07:22 PM
I take an XR 20 in the morning about 7:30am and then half a twenty at 1:00PM.

MindResearcher
10-03-04, 05:40 AM
I take 30mg of Reg adderall 3x daily, every 5-6 hrs. My insurance wont pay for Xr, so it looks like dex spanuals will be my next trial, if my doc chooses.

One question. My pharm. says that top daily dose is 60mg of adderall. But do doctors perscribed adderall xr, 2x daily say 30mgx and then 15mgxr ?


mR

northstar
04-18-05, 09:08 PM
I Know This Is An Old Post But It Brought Interest To Me.

My Dr Told Me She Can't Prescribe Xr For More Than One Time A Day, Nor Prescribe The Ir As Needed In The Evenings. My Adderrallxr 20mgs Only Lasts 8 Hours And I Need Coverage For Evenings When I Work Or Even At Home With The Family For That Matter!! I'm So Tired And Irritable In The Evenings And So Productive And Normal During The Day When The Family Is At School And Work. I Guess Me And My Toddler Are The Only Ones Benefiting.

So Is My Dr Full Of S***t??? I See Others Take Both, Even The Xr's Twice Daily. I Have Actually Tried 2 Doses, One In Am And One In Pm And It Works Great, No Problems Falling Asleep. I Know I'm Not Supposed To Do That, But I Needed To Know If It Would Work. I Can't Tell Her That Or She'll Freak. Aghhh What's A Girl Supposed To Do?? Just Want My Days To Remain Constant.

ditzygirl
04-19-05, 08:34 PM
I Know This Is An Old Post But It Brought Interest To Me.

My Dr Told Me She Can't Prescribe Xr For More Than One Time A Day, Nor Prescribe The Ir As Needed In The Evenings. My Adderrallxr 20mgs Only Lasts 8 Hours And I Need Coverage For Evenings When I Work Or Even At Home With The Family For That Matter!! I'm So Tired And Irritable In The Evenings And So Productive And Normal During The Day When The Family Is At School And Work. I Guess Me And My Toddler Are The Only Ones Benefiting.

So Is My Dr Full Of S***t??? I See Others Take Both, Even The Xr's Twice Daily. I Have Actually Tried 2 Doses, One In Am And One In Pm And It Works Great, No Problems Falling Asleep. I Know I'm Not Supposed To Do That, But I Needed To Know If It Would Work. I Can't Tell Her That Or She'll Freak. Aghhh What's A Girl Supposed To Do?? Just Want My Days To Remain Constant.My doc is pretty strict too.:rolleyes: Do you think she would give you short acting adderall 10mg each so you could space it out likr 5 hours apart? I'm taking adderall right now but I'm switching back to ritalin tomorrow because I can feel how strong this med is and I did fine on ritalin. Or, maybe you can try a new doc!:)

ditzygirl
04-19-05, 08:36 PM
Adderall xr at 30 mg works for about 10 hours for me, although I have only been on it for 2 weeks now.

jazzper
04-19-05, 09:45 PM
I take Adderall XR (yes XR) 30 mg. twice a day. The first one lasts about 5-6 hours, and the 2nd one lasts the rest of the day.
Jazz

ditzygirl
04-20-05, 11:11 AM
I take Adderall XR (yes XR) 30 mg. twice a day. The first one lasts about 5-6 hours, and the 2nd one lasts the rest of the day.
JazzWow, you must have a fast metabolism.:D How did you get your doc to agree with that?

hopefulwithadhd
04-20-05, 12:35 PM
Well I'm relieved I'm reading others who are taking 30 mg of adderall xr 2x per day...I didn't ask for it..I went back 3 weeks after being on 20 mg 2 x per day and it was working very well so he increased it. As I mentioned though, I think it might be a bit much for me. I reduced it to 30mg once a day around 10:30 a.m. I'm going to log my days until my next doc appt and see what he says...what do you think about him giving me a low dose of wellbutrin as well?

Jay Jay
04-23-05, 04:11 PM
I get up at 5 AM and take 25 mg Adderall XR. Sometimes I can stay up, but usually I'll go back to bed for about half an hour 'till it's working well. The Adderall does not seem to wear off until about 7 PM for me, but I also take 80 mg Strattera an hour before bed, so I have noticed that I get no rebound effect at all. :cool:

jazzper
04-23-05, 08:30 PM
Hi Ditzygirl,

I don't know why I need 30 mg 2 times per day, but if I don't take that much I get a terrible rebound. I'm really thankful that my doctor knows how to dose the medication. If I'd gone to my regular doc, I'm sure she wouldn't have raised it this high.

Jazz

sweetmama
04-25-05, 02:58 AM
I dont seem to get that second dose like I do the first dose or maybe I just dont notice it like I do when I first take it. One mistake I made was to take 1/2 of a .25 xanax last week to take the edge off of my coming off and it worked so well that I have done it again. I dont like that at all, having to take a second controlled substance to handle the first one. I am going to talk to the Dr. about this.

OpieBopie
04-28-05, 04:33 AM
My Adderall dose of 20mg XR (once a day) lasts 10 hours and Adderall IR 15mg (twice a day) lasts 6 hours. I take both concurrently.

adhdxyz
04-30-05, 09:59 PM
I am ADHD and started Adderal XR on March 18th.

My doctor told me to experiment to see what the right dosage was for me and to come back in 15 days and she would write me a presciption for a month supply. She said to try one 10 mg xr in the morning and see how I felt. Then try 2 10 mgs xr in the morning. Then 3. Up to 4 if needed.

On the first three days, I took one 10 mg XR at 7am. My days were great and very productive but I felt tired and a little crabby about 4pm. (My work day goes until 530pm and then family time until 10pm so being tired and crabby at 4pm won't cut it.)

On day 4 through day 15, I took two 10 mg xr at 7am. My days were even better and extremely productive but I still felt tired and a little crabby about 4pm a few days (not all days, but a few.)

Rather than taking 3 10 mg xrs in the morning, I instead took a vivarin (200 mg caffeine) about 330pm and this took me through the rest of the night. I've taken vivarin for many years. I always took 1 in the morning and one in the afternoon. I havent had to take my morning vivarin since beginning Adderall.

When I went for my 15 day followup, I mentioned that taking 2 10 mg xr in the morning was a good dose for me. I didnt think I needed 3 10 mg.

I also mentioned taking the vivarin on a few days due to fatigue and crabiness.

What she did was she wrote me a prescription for 30 days of 20 mg xr, in addition to 30 days of 10 mg instant release Adderall to be taken at 3pm.

This combination is working for me.

hopefulwithadhd
05-07-05, 11:47 PM
I'm going to the doc next week and need to have him adjust my meds. Maybe I can stay on the 30mg adderall xr first thing in the morning, then have use the IR (maybe 10 mg) for the evening hours? I am also wondering what the effect of the wellbutrin has on me in addition to the 60 mg's of adderall xr each day? In an earlier thread, I mentioned being a bit hesitant to resume my normal exercise routine because of heart concerns. I don't have any known heart problems but it seems the stimulants can have an effect on the flow of blood to the heart?

BTW...When I was on Wellbutrin (10mg 2x per day) and 10mg of Adderall XR 2x per day, I managed to grow my nails out for the first time in 15 years. Since my dosage of Adderall was increased to 30mg 2x per day, not only have I chewed my nails off :(, they are shorter than they have ever been!

variance
05-11-05, 12:00 PM
I don't know whats goin on with ya'all..
one adderall XR 20mg has kept me going for 2 days straight.

hopefulwithadhd
05-15-05, 11:08 PM
Well...sitting back thinking through since first being prescribed...I agree with you. I did go back to my doc to tell him I did MUCH better on 10 mg xr 2x per day...was doing swimmingly well but for some reason he upped my dose to 30 mg 2 x per day...anyway...when i told him i wasn't doing as well...he said he wants me to try concerta....he wrote me a px but I think I'm going to call him tomorrow and tell him I'd like to go back to 10 mg or at the most go to 20 mg 2x per day...ultimately I know it's up to me but I don't want to jump from adderall to concerta in such a short time span when the dosage just might be too high..agree or disagree?

Rushed4Time
05-15-05, 11:59 PM
hopeful, I agree that you should spend more time playing with your dosage before abandoning Adderall XR. I'm currently doing just that. I'm realizing I don't really need a full 30mg at each dose, so I've been splitting my capsules. It's not an exact science, since I'm just sort of eyeballing it right now, but I seem to be doing ok with 20mg at a time.

For me, any dose of Adderall XR lasts almost exactly 4 hours before the crash starts coming. I can practically set my watch to it. So, I'm dosing 3 times a day now. There are times after the 3rd dose where I start crashing sooner, but I think that's just my body telling me it's time for bed/rest. The first two doses last exactly 4 hours.

jerry83
05-16-05, 03:48 AM
hopeful, I agree that you should spend more time playing with your dosage before abandoning Adderall XR. I'm currently doing just that. I'm realizing I don't really need a full 30mg at each dose, so I've been splitting my capsules. It's not an exact science, since I'm just sort of eyeballing it right now, but I seem to be doing ok with 20mg at a time.

For me, any dose of Adderall XR lasts almost exactly 4 hours before the crash starts coming. I can practically set my watch to it. So, I'm dosing 3 times a day now. There are times after the 3rd dose where I start crashing sooner, but I think that's just my body telling me it's time for bed/rest. The first two doses last exactly 4 hours. Remember that it's not very easy to split XR capsules well. The little balls inside are different (some are absorbed right away, some after 4 hours) and you might split it into a half that has mostly "right away" balls or 4 hour balls. ;)

Rushed4Time
05-16-05, 02:43 PM
No, I totally get that. I'm kind of making due until I talk to my insurance.

See, I had originally been given a prescription for 30mg Adderall XR once daily and a small dose of instant release (5 or 10 mg, I forget) each evening, as needed.

The instant release was like bad coke for me, so I stopped taking it after about 3 days, and started doing 30mg of the XR twice a day. So, my prescription ran out sooner. I went back to the doc and got a prescription for 30 days of Adderall XR 30 mg 2 times daily. I went to that appointment during the worst day of my head cold, and I think my doctor was afraid I was a junkie or something. I really thought I needed the full 30mg at each dose, and he wouldn't do more than 60mg in a day. In his defense, I think he was so shocked by the change in my appearance, it scared him. He was so freaked, I didn't even bother to tell him I wasn't taking the Adderall XR until the cold went away. I really did look like I was about to die, but I always look worse than a crack ***** who hasn't bathed in a month when I'm sick.

So, I got the refill during my cold, started taking that new bottle this past Sunday, once I was feeling better. By Tuesday, I began playing with dosages, and am seeing that no matter how they're divided, I can get by on less than 30mg. So, I'd like to do 20mg 3 times a day and see how that goes.

Only issue is, I'm not sure how the insurance would react to yet another prescription so soon, or if it could cause any issues for the doctor; he's a regular internal medicine guy, not an adult ADD specialist. I really like him, as he actually LISTENS to me, and he's not just handing me a band-aid and getting me out of there ASAP; each appointment, he really takes his time. Anyway, I don't want to raise any red flags that could cause trouble for him.

I was thinking of calling the insurance and making sure there wouldn't be an issue with a new prescription; I'd just mention that with my recent weight loss, this dose is suddenly too high.

hopefulwithadhd
05-18-05, 01:05 AM
I DID talk to my doc today and told him I wanted to try going back to the original adderall dose..turns out it was 20 mg 2 x per day, not 10 like i thought...anyway...i should have a good frame of reference now if it doesn't work quite like it did initially...i mean in terms of needing to switch to an entirely different medication. I've heard you "crash" harder on concerta...i don't notice crashing on adderall

T-Bass
05-20-05, 12:14 PM
I was on XR, same thing, body digests & no effects after 8 hours, switch to regular release, have more control, I'm on the same boat with the max dose of 40mg, I break up the 20mg pill in 4s, and create my own extended release that lasts longer than XR, but taking a pill 8 times a day can be annoying, but I don't mind, I can get about 20 hours coverage with the same dosage. I like popping pills.

T-Bass

thebanq
05-20-05, 03:57 PM
i was disgnosed add inattentive approx one month ao, initially i was given 20 mg of adderall and also streterra....i stopped taking the streterra after a few weeks due to a wide variety of issues, not the least of which was the fact it did nothing for me, went back to my psych, and he gave me a free sample of adderall xr 30mg...once daily, seems to last about 5-6 hours for me, i told my doc that 10 mg of IR adderall wasnt cuttin it....had no effect on me, and that i was baiscally just taking the 2 at once arounf lunch time....and just wingin it the rest of the time, at anyrate, im too call back and i presume give it a yay or nay...at this point i think 30mg of IR adderall would work better....maybe twice, and occasioanlly 3 times a day.....

luvmi3kids
05-20-05, 04:03 PM
Well, I have noticed a "second wind." with Adderall. I will take it right before I leave for work, about 8:30 or so. I take 20 mg. It works until about 4'oclock, and I will get tired and sleepy and cranky. Then about 8-9 pm, I will get my energy and focus back, and will start feeling like cleaning house. This is perfect for me. I can get through the bedtime baths and get the kids to bed, then I feel like taking care of the house, filling the dishwasher, doing laundry, all the things that I didn't feel like doing before. And besides, if I wait until the kids are asleep to do the dishes, I have no little "helpers" trying to pull the dirty forks out of the dishwasher or trying to slam it shut while my head is in it. (He's 15 months old, he really thinks he's helping! LOL)

The only complaint is that some nights it's hard to wind down and go to sleep.

KnittingJunkie
05-23-05, 10:43 PM
Holy crap!
Ok, I've been on this stuff for what, 4 days or something? 5? Ok, well, I like it while it's working (not sure it's that much better than its far cheaper, somewhat similar counterpart Dex, but I do like it) but I'll be damned if the stuff doesn't have a drop-off like I've never seen! I'm fine, functioning, following along perfectly fine in a coherent conversation or something, and then it's like *click* the light went off. Seems like I take it about 10 a.m. and it wears off at about 6. :eyebrow:

Today I forgot though, and took it @ 2:00 p.m. (yes I know I'm supposed to take it at the same time every day, but I had to get work done and the stuff doesn't last that long anyway.) I don't know...might just go back to dex when I'm done with this stuff--and I'm gonna finish the dang bottle, paid an insane amount of money for the stuff! :faint:

Chrys

theblueangel
06-03-05, 05:31 PM
I take Adderall XR (yes XR) 30 mg. twice a day. The first one lasts about 5-6 hours, and the 2nd one lasts the rest of the day.
Jazz
I know I'm a latecomer to this thread, but...

I started taking XR just about 3 months ago, and within a month or so I was taking up to 40 or 50mg a day (at the time I had 10mg capsules, so that made minor dose adjustments easy) with my doctor's full consent. Luckily, he totally "gets" the fact that ADDers' reactions to stimulants such as Adderall are highly variable from person to person.

For the last month and a half, I've been taking 40mg in the morning, at 8, and then 20mg right after lunch, at 1 p.m. and I thought it was working really well....but just lately it seems like I've started to fidget more, especially as the day wears on, and I'll start biting my fingernails and get waaaay distracted by everything. Interestingly, by the time I get home at night, around 9 or 10 p.m. I feel great (assuming I made sure to eat that day) and calm and collected and can get all of the little crap done for the next morning.

But the problem is really with that "intermediate" period, somewhere around 4 to 8 p.m. or so, when I'm a space case (like right now, writing this coherently is much more difficult than it would have been around 10 this morning!). I definitely at this time experience the "rebound" mood fun, sometimes not so bad, but sometimes bad enough to make me wonder if I'm at the correct dosage. I don't know.

Should I ask my doctor for the 10 mgs instead of the 20 mgs so that I can take more specific doses? I feel like 30 in the morning might be a better idea, and maybe that way I could still just take 20 in the afternoon....come to think of it, that's what I had been doing with the 10 mgs and we were experimenting with going up to 60 daily and that was when I saw him (my doctor) and he wrote out the new scripts, and it wasn't until several days later when I paid for them at the pharmacy that I noticed they were 20mg capsules. Should I have said something at the pharmacy, or should I have called my doctor?

Sorry for the long post. :) This forum is the best thing I've stumbled across in a long time!

liars_paradox
06-02-09, 01:54 AM
Honestly, I take 40mg in the morning around 8-9 am and then when it reaches to 12-1 it's gone. I mean I can't feel it anymore. I am sure its in my system however the affects are no longer working. I've read this on more than one occassion that the drug does not last the amount stated at of around 12 hours.

Please feel free to add your comments.

I take 30 mg of Dexedrine ER (generic, so Dextroamphetamine spanules). What you just described is the same exact thing that's been happening to me.

I keep a little spiral notebook where I record when I take my meds and jot some thoughts and plans. I also test some hypotheses out, to identify my problem. I'm going to try to increase my dosage from 30 mg to 45, since she prescribed me two 15 mg at once.

I've been taking 4 of the 15 (twice in morning and twice in afternoon) because it's so ineffective. My provider said that this was okay, so I've been doing it. She said 45 at once is also okay, so I'm going to try that as well.

Here's the thing about my medication, even though the positive effects have worn off, the negative effects last long. So, if I take my meds too late in the day then I will still stay up late at night, even if I'm not very focused.

So, it seems that if I increase my meds, then I'll focus better. The "focus" affect will appear to last longer, and I'll still get tired when I'm supposed to. But, no one wants to take more meds unless they're absolutely sure they need to, because this stuff has been known to kill.

So, I came up with a scientific way of testing what my problems with concentrating in class are. For anyone else who wants to try this out. If you want to identify your problems with your ADHD, keep a journal to see how your day affects you.

1) Create a Hypothesis which covers all facts involving the situation and can't be explained by anything else.
So, if you think that the meds don't last very long because they're either too weak or just don't last long enough, then eliminate other factors which could affect your focus.
Such as:


not smart enough
sleep
anxiety
stress
depression
etc.

I know that it seems like everyone else isn't affected like this, but people with ADHD are more sensitive to such things than other people. So, you should try to eliminate other possibilities as much as possible.

2) Make additional hypotheses from the facts which counter the last hypothesis. Do this for all other possibilities that you are aware of.

So, you end up with a list of hypotheses as a result.

H0: I'm not smart enough, so I can't concentrate.
H1: My meds aren't good enough.
H2: I don't sleep enough, so I can't concentrate in class.
H3: I'm too worried about school to focus in class
H4: I'm too stressed from school to focus in class
H5: I'm too ...
and so on.

3) Afterwards, you identify all the implications associated with each hypothesis. For instance, if I want to test the sleep theory, I can write my list of implications like this:
H0: If sleep is the only reason why I'm having trouble in class, then
I1: making up for some of my lost sleep will improve focus to some extent
I2: making up for all lost sleep will allow me to focus for as long as my medication is supposed to last.
I3: ...

How Testing works:

By trying to solve the problem, you test to see if any implication is true or false. You can try to take a "lesser" implication and test if that turns out to be true or false.

For instance, if I make up for some sleep and I improve focus to some extent, then my current implication is true. This doesn't prove that the hypothesis is true, however, because according to the rules of implication my hypothesis can only be proven false with a false implication but cannot be proven true.

This means that I have to keep testing all implications that I currently have until one turns out false. For instance, if I test I2 by making up for all lost sleep sleep and my concentration problem isn't completely gone, then this hypothesis is false.

5) keep testing hypotheses until all but one hypothesis are false. If you've tested all the implications you could think of for one hypothesis, you still don't have true hypothesis. The only way you can prove come up with a likely conclusion, you have to prove all other hypotheses false and leave one as a "maybe, because I couldn't prove it wrong". So, even then, you still don't have an absolute answer, but it's hard to be absolutely certain about alot in the real world. That's what alot of people don't seem to get about scientific theory. They think because it's called a theory, then it's complete bull**** that someone smoked up for them. They'll only believe someone if they talk as if they're absolutely certain, even when it's logically impossible.

So, this is why you have people who keep pushing that Global Warming is a hoax and other retarded nonsense, because it convinces other people who don't know any better that the this person knows what he or she is talking about. It's like they're thinking, "The educated scientist doesn't sound like he's so sure of what he's saying, so even he sees how the first person might be right." However, such reasoning isn't really rational and it really only rewards people who blow hot air for living.

Anyways, I realize that not everyone will have the patience for this - I mean it is an ADHD forum. But, logical problem solving is probably the best way to solve your own problems when no one else is going to solve them for you. If you look at the situation emotionally then you won't think straight, but if you put your emotions aside then you at least gain some control over the situation.

liars_paradox
06-02-09, 08:00 PM
Honestly, I take 40mg in the morning around 8-9 am and then when it reaches to 12-1 it's gone. I mean I can't feel it anymore. I am sure its in my system however the affects are no longer working. I've read this on more than one occassion that the drug does not last the amount stated at of around 12 hours.

Please feel free to add your comments.
Well, I mentioned last night that I had the same problem. Well, I increased my dosage to 45 mg, and it actually helped out a whole lot. Didn't last any flipping 12 hours, but I felt the "peak" last much longer than a few minutes. It seemed that I made effective use of my time.

However, I did find myself having difficulty focusing around 4pm, even though I took it at 9am. I took an online quiz and kept getting answers wrong because I wasn't really reading the questions. And, constantly I felt myself wanting to just go ahead and submit the answers, but I forced myself not to.

Maybe 60 mg will help last all day? Who knows, but increasing to 45 mg really did make it last longer and not just stronger.

CDRacingZX6R
06-03-09, 03:12 AM
I take 40 mg XR in the morning. Normally lasts about 5-6 hours or so.. Maybe a bit longer if I eat different during the day.

I take 20 mg XR in the afternoon, and it tends to last me until I go to bed around 11:00 p.m. at night or so.

If i try and skip the 20 mg in the afternoon I get horribly cranky and antisocial, as well as tired.

liars_paradox
06-06-09, 07:54 PM
I take 40 mg XR in the morning. Normally lasts about 5-6 hours or so.. Maybe a bit longer if I eat different during the day.

I take 20 mg XR in the afternoon, and it tends to last me until I go to bed around 11:00 p.m. at night or so.

If i try and skip the 20 mg in the afternoon I get horribly cranky and antisocial, as well as tired.

Does the extra 20 mg Adderall XR in the afternoon cause you to oversleep?

gnbeg
06-08-09, 11:07 AM
I feel my Adderall dosage wear off in mid-late afternoon. I haven't been able to reduce caffiene intake. That can lengthen the effect.

hollywood
06-08-09, 11:16 AM
what works better for attention and focus and shifting tasks, ritalin or adderall?

lilhotADDmama
06-12-09, 02:10 PM
Depends entirely on the person who is taking it. It's trial and error. Personally for me Adderall XR works wonders. So did Adderall Brand When it was manufactured by Shire. Generic and Brand IR By Teva are crap IMHO.

Never tried Ritalin- but have tried a few others and Adderall works the best. Now for my cousin- Adderall didn't work for her and she is now on Ritalin.


what works better for attention and focus and shifting tasks, ritalin or adderall?

SpazCadet
08-13-10, 12:08 PM
Honestly, I take 40mg in the morning around 8-9 am and then when it reaches to 12-1 it's gone. I mean I can't feel it anymore. I am sure its in my system however the affects are no longer working.

The human brain develops tolerance to anything that works on dopamine very very quickly. (Tolerance means that the same blood concentration has less of a therapeutic effect.) This is why, for example, addicts on a cocaine binge are less and less satisfied with the same amount of cocaine as the night wears on, and can sometimes overdose while trying to "chase the high". It also explains why the therapeutic effects of Adderall peak before the maximum blood concentration is reached. I would imagine that increasing your morning dose will not change this.



I've read this on more than one occassion that the drug does not last the amount stated at of around 12 hours.

My understanding is that the elimination halflife is twelve hours. That means that half of the drug is gone after twelve hours.



You might want to talk to your doctor about a combination of a long-acting (e.g., Wellbutrin) and short-acting (e.g., Adderall) regimen? I hear that works well for some folks..



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Nutellanick
08-13-10, 01:48 PM
I take 20mg of xr in the morning and it seems like it lasts 4-5 hours, then wears off i think it is because my metabolism is very high, and i am very slender. I don't know if this is in my head or not, i will have to wait until school starts again to see if its really working or not. Does anyone know like what it feels like when the medicine has worn off?

Dan73
08-19-10, 11:42 PM
I am currently prescribed 60 mg of Adderall XR. Two 30 mgs, twice a day, though my coverage lasts approximately 9 to 10 hrs. Is this considered a high dose?

I switched from Vyvanse 50 mg with a 10 mg Dexedrine booster, after the combination proved ineffective for the amount of work I do (12+ hrs a day). My NP prescribed me 60 mg of Adderall XR after she told me that I'm a rapid metabolizer.

Would it be unwise to tell me doctor that 60 Adderall XR doesn't support my work schedule, and make a suggestion to add another to my regiment? I don't want to jeopardize my medication (it is really quite helpful).

Thanks.

Nutellanick
08-20-10, 01:22 AM
From what I know that is pretty high, you might want to ask for an IR booster to take once the XR's start to wear off. Asking shouldn't hurt.

swiss miss
09-01-10, 05:46 PM
It can be difficult, but skipping every other day while on the Adderall or other amphetamine-based drug helps avoid developing a tolerance to it. Also, taking the IR pills instead of the XR makes a considerable difference, because you can take them at different times in the day. For example, most days I just take the IR. I'll take one in the morning and one in the afternoon, then nothing for the rest of the day. Or I won't take anything in the morning so I'll wait until after lunch to take the IR. It always feels like my tolerance has decreased just by skipping that single dose. Weekend holidays can be brutal, but they are a must. I must confess that I usually break down and take an IR on Sunday afternoon to help me blaze through chores and other tasks before Monday, and I spend Saturday mornings on the couch depleted of energy and motivation, sometimes depressed. I have two kids, and it helps to get outside in that situation--I noticed that staying inside on Saturday exacerbate the depression due to the vicious cycle of thinking about clutter and laundry that I do not have the mental capacity to tackle.

My doctor always prescribes the XR with an IR booster. I started on 30 mg Vyvanse with a 5mg dexadrine booster. Then I moved to 15 mg Dexadrine Spanules with the dexadrine boosters. Now I'm using Adderall (generic) XR with 5 mg amphetamine salt boosters. It seems to be working well with the variations I discussed above. The IR pills vary from day to day. Sometimes, they feel like they only last a few hours, others, 4 or 5. The extended release pills last about 8-9 hours, but I will agree that they do not last 12 hours. The only that that lasts that long is the Vyvanse. It lasts up to 16 hours in some people.

Good luck all

ADDHSTEACHER
09-03-10, 02:50 PM
Hi everyone and thanks for this great website!

I'm a newbie and just registered today (09/03/2010).

I thought it was ONLY me - and then I found this website and all the great posts here, and realized I was totally wrong - my ADD treatment needs an overhaul.

Please pardon me if I rant. I am just so thrilled to have found validation for what I believed was just one man's lot in life. Let me explain.

I am in my latter 50's and have had ADD (probably not ADHD, at least as an adult) for all my life. Back in the dark ages of the 1950s and 60s, ADD was called "Minimal Brain Dysfunction". Unfortunately, according to my parents and all of my teachers, all I had was a "Minimal Brain", and nothing more. According to all, all I needed to do was to "buckle down", "concentrate", and - get this: "Stop being LAZY". Uh huh, yeah right. I was never taken to a doctor for a possible diagnosis of a learning disability (which it can be).

On the occasional visit to a "psychologist", which incidentally was only to validate my parents' belief that I was just "maladjusted", nothing good ever came out of any of these visits. So I lived with the belief that I WAS maladjusted, a terrible student, and just NOT like everyone else.

Oddly enough, my first job as a teenager was as a stock boy at a local pharmacy. Important to note that as a child, and just up until a few months ago actually, I was also plagued with incredible, debilitating migraines.

And no, I was never taken to a doctor for a diagnosis or possible treatment because, once again, I was told that all of my headaches were simply a means of trying to get attention. Because why? Because I was maladjusted. In other words, "Screw you. Suffer in silence, and when you want to get better, you will!" All this coming from parents and one grandmother who suffered miserably from their own migraines, and got medical treatment - only for themselves.

(And again, pardon my circuitous path, which I promise will eventually lead to my point.)

I had no idea of course, as a kid, that the Dexedrine was the medical treatment for "Minimal Brain Dysfunction". How could I know. I was made to believe that all of my symptom were "all in my head".

Skip ahead a few years later to my last year of college and I went to a doctor on campus and asked for a prescription for the Daprisal, and just as luck would have it, the FDA had just pulled it from the market. He did prescribe Dexamyl for me. It was Dexedrine plus amobarbital (a barbiturate). Note that I was seeking help for my headaches, not for ADD, because I still didn't realize I had ADD. I did however notice a significant increase in my concentration abilities and my grades soared from a paltry 2.3 to a 4.0 Provost Scholar list, in my last year of college.

Then the FDA pulled Dexamyl off the market, due to the addiction risk of the barbiturate. Now I was treated over the years with straight Dexedrine, Cylert (until that was pulled), Ritalin, and more recently with Adderall.

Now my point...

I am currently on Adderall XR 30 mgs once per day. My doctor, when I first saw him, would only prescribe the 30mg XR, because he believes that there is less of an addiction risk with the XR. Even when I told him that I was much more in control of my symptoms with the 10 mgs 3x/day, he would only prescribe the XR. I never pursued the request again. It's just not holding me these days.

It has been over a year and a half since he's been seeing me, and I haven't had the nerve to tell him that I need a re-evaluation of the dosing. I have also developed what's termed "Excessive Daytime Sleepiness" and was diagnosed with moderate sleep apnea. I was given a C-PAP machine, and although it helped with the sleep apnea, it had done nothing for the fatigue I suffer every single day.

Again, to make my point even clearer, I never knew so many people were like me, who needed more of their medication, especially later in the day. I almost fell over when I saw the posts by people who were actually fortunate enough to have a doctor who not only gave them the Adderall XR, but who also were given a subsequent dose of the IR Adderall for later in the day. I can't even imagine any of my doctors even allowing me to finish my sentence requesting more or different medications.

I have a follow up appointment with my sleep doctor in two weeks. I told him that I already take the Adderall, and I fear that all he will do is put me on Provigil, or Nuvigil (meds that supposedly enhance wakefulness). I have already tried the Provigil, and all it does is give me headaches.

So, I in fact am kind of suffering in silence, mostly out of fear that my doctor will pull the Adderall XR altogether, and then I am in even worse circumstances.

I hope that I get some helpful suggestions and all the feedback that there is out there. Thanks again to all who contributed to this site.

Possum
09-03-10, 05:31 PM
Welcome, A-Teacher!

You might also want to post in new member introductions where probably more people will see your post and give you a proper welcome.

You and I are of the same generation and I could really empathize with much of your post. Yep, back in the devonian era, ADDers were told that they were lazy, accused of being daydreamers, not performing up to expectations, and more. Oh, blech!

I am on adderall XR (40mg) in the morning. I do not feel that it lasts me all day. I seem to lose an effect from it around 3:00 pm or so. I believe that the standard prescribing information goes up to 60mg, so I am going to ask my PA for a greater dose - maybe a 20mg IR booster in the afternoon?

You might want to consider finding a new doctor. Your current one hardly sounds very open or amenable to working with you to get your dosing right.

dbellca82
09-05-10, 07:37 PM
Welcome, A-Teacher!

You might also want to post in new member introductions where probably more people will see your post and give you a proper welcome.

You and I are of the same generation and I could really empathize with much of your post. Yep, back in the devonian era, ADDers were told that they were lazy, accused of being daydreamers, not performing up to expectations, and more. Oh, blech!

I am on adderall XR (40mg) in the morning. I do not feel that it lasts me all day. I seem to lose an effect from it around 3:00 pm or so. I believe that the standard prescribing information goes up to 60mg, so I am going to ask my PA for a greater dose - maybe a 20mg IR booster in the afternoon?

You might want to consider finding a new doctor. Your current one hardly sounds very open or amenable to working with you to get your dosing right.
As others have mentioned, it does vary considerably depending on the day, or what is going on. I take two 30mg XR daily, it varies but usually its somewhere around 9-11 in the AM when I take the first one, then second I take around 4-5, sometimes later about 8 if I forget. Doesnt cause me to have any insomnia, or any real ill effects, usually XR I find lasts about 6 or 7 hours tops.

Drizzy
09-08-10, 02:30 PM
I usually take the IR's because the XR's will not let me sleep. The beneficial effects of the XR's last about 5-6 hours, but are obviously not as strong as an equal dose in the IR form. If I take a 30mg IR, I feel it within an hour and I'm good for about 4 hours total. Then I can redose if it is still early afternoon and that keeps me good for another 4hours while still letting me fall asleep around midnight. The XR's are more convenient, but I would have to take 2 to feel the same effects as 1 IR(but i wouldn't be able to sleep). Plus the XR's cost me around $50(Shire) for a thirty 30mg caps(generic XR's don't work as good imo) while thirty generic IR 30mg tabs cost me $5. Definitely more affordable and work better, lucky me.

Monkeybutt300
10-07-10, 10:41 PM
Ok this may sound really bad but i have a friend who doesnt like to take her adderall sometimes and i know i have some issues when it comes to school work so i asked her if i could take her med well i did and it was adderall XR 20mg just one and ive never takin it before and im a pretty big guy im athletically built 6 foot 185 pounds well when i took it was about 645am and i noticed it once i got to school bout 710 and its 936pm right now and i still kinda feel it working is that how its supposed to work???? well anyway i read some previous post about it not lasting real long and i think what the problem is, is that your bodys have built up a tollerance for it so maybe its not the dosage, but if u havent already try not taking it for a while like two to three weeks and then take it again, but idk any of u or if you have jobs that require u to be really calm but im just giving a suggestion if u havent already tried it if you have then im wrong wont be the first time.

MelNicBon
12-15-10, 03:23 AM
I don't get how people are saying it only lasts 5-6 hours for them. I take 30 Mgs of adderall xr at 7am and it doesn't wear off until about 2 am. But I don't have ADD or ADHD or anything. And I'm very small I'm 5' 3" and weigh 95 pounds so maybe that's why it lasts so long. If I take it consistantly for about a week it'll wear off by 8-9pm but if I go a couple of days without taking it it'll affect me for like 20 hours

Atypical Sand
12-16-10, 12:41 AM
Just contributing my experience thus far.

(First week of month 2)

I'd say my medication lasts about 8 hours total, but there's an area of only about 4-6 hours where I feel particularly focused and motivated. After 8 hours or so I get very mentally fatigued and can't concentrate but usually stay physically awake for another 2 hours or so. I actually have been taking my Adderall at lunch because as a student I need to do most of my schoolwork in the evening, even though my classes are in the morning. Unfortunately this means I don't focus as well while in class, but my biggest problems are with doing assigned reading and homework, so it works well enough.

I'm trying to get by with as low of a dosage as is therapeutically effective, and still working my way up, so my experiences may change in the future.

ADHD2014
12-24-13, 05:31 PM
Well this is ADHD2014 im 19 handsome and dedicated, but im still not sure as too what im going to do about this new job i am going too get. The times are from 6pm-2am i take Addheral XR every morning around 10 because my first job is 11:15am-4:30pm it last too about 6pm, but my second job is requiring 6pm-2am if there is a limit in time on the pescription in which i am using, what possible dosage of addheral XR could i use daily to obtain my objective in finishing my second job shift?

Vim717
12-28-13, 12:11 PM
Well this is ADHD2014 im 19 handsome and dedicated, but im still not sure as too what im going to do about this new job i am going too get. The times are from 6pm-2am i take Addheral XR every morning around 10 because my first job is 11:15am-4:30pm it last too about 6pm, but my second job is requiring 6pm-2am if there is a limit in time on the pescription in which i am using, what possible dosage of addheral XR could i use daily to obtain my objective in finishing my second job shift?
I've got a similar issue, I talked to my doctor and he prescribed me with 10mg IR with my XR, for if I have to do something in a smaller time frame (like your second job).
I would ask your doctor if it is safe to take two XRs a day, and ask him if you can get the IR medication. It really helps out.

Also: I'm not sure how good it is for you to be on Adderall ~13 hours a day. Though I'm not a doctor/neurologist/physician.

Steve20xr
12-30-13, 11:54 AM
I take 10mg in morning, and then 20xr around noon. This gets me through until about 6 and then I just let myself be confused until bed.

ashlers
01-01-14, 10:19 PM
I Know This Is An Old Post But It Brought Interest To Me.

My Dr Told Me She Can't Prescribe Xr For More Than One Time A Day, Nor Prescribe The Ir As Needed In The Evenings. My Adderrallxr 20mgs Only Lasts 8 Hours And I Need Coverage For Evenings When I Work Or Even At Home With The Family For That Matter!! I'm So Tired And Irritable In The Evenings And So Productive And Normal During The Day When The Family Is At School And Work. I Guess Me And My Toddler Are The Only Ones Benefiting.

So Is My Dr Full Of S***t??? I See Others Take Both, Even The Xr's Twice Daily. I Have Actually Tried 2 Doses, One In Am And One In Pm And It Works Great, No Problems Falling Asleep. I Know I'm Not Supposed To Do That, But I Needed To Know If It Would Work. I Can't Tell Her That Or She'll Freak. Aghhh What's A Girl Supposed To Do?? Just Want My Days To Remain Constant.

My doc told me the EXACT same thing. I've decided to see a psychatrist so I plan to discuss this with her when I see her and see if maybe going to a specialist can help me figure out a better dosage. My doc gets very skeptical of any issues I have with the dosage and basically tries to tell me to just stick through with the kinks... It's super frustrating I'm trying to get my dosage perfected to my needs! :umm1: