View Full Version : Ment to fail??


feelthelie
10-30-11, 11:48 PM
So through about third grade to what School year I am now, I've felt almost like I've ment to fail or get a bad grade on every Test, quiz, Homework...etc. No matter how hard I study or how close I pay attention in class the results are always the same. Looking back I have never gotten an A in any class(or test for that matter.) I really really love to learn about the subjects that the teachers are talking about, and even discuss the topics after class with many teachers. I know that my problem is not intelligence because I've scored a 142 on one IQ test that I took at a psychiatrist office and a 135 at a ADD specialists office. Both test took about 8 hours and were very very in depth. Any ideas what could be going on?
Currently I'm on 40mg Prozac, 20mg of Adderall XR in the morning and 10 mg of Adderall IR in the afternoon.

Marzipan
10-31-11, 12:41 AM
You might have to elaborate more. What exactly are the comments on the papers you get back? Are the mistakes always small or are they major? Do your teachers comment that you seemed rushed and don't elaborate enough? Bad handwriting? Spirit possession??

Do you often forget to turn in your homework or do, say, the backside of worksheets and tests?

crazystarf
10-31-11, 08:39 PM
So through about third grade to what School year I am now, I've felt almost like I've ment to fail or get a bad grade on every Test, quiz, Homework...etc. No matter how hard I study or how close I pay attention in class the results are always the same. Looking back I have never gotten an A in any class(or test for that matter.) I really really love to learn about the subjects that the teachers are talking about, and even discuss the topics after class with many teachers. I know that my problem is not intelligence because I've scored a 142 on one IQ test that I took at a psychiatrist office and a 135 at a ADD specialists office. Both test took about 8 hours and were very very in depth. Any ideas what could be going on?
Currently I'm on 40mg Prozac, 20mg of Adderall XR in the morning and 10 mg of Adderall IR in the afternoon.
When you have finished listening to the lectures, write all the things that you have learned in the lectures down in a form that is most accessible for you (cue cards, piece of paper). I'm suspecting that you might have a concern regarding to understanding some of the materials that are covered in the lectures.

It really depends on what subject that you are having problems with. Applying the same method of studying for different subjects isn't going to get you anywhere because different subjects require different methods of studying.

(for example, you can study for bio by reading the important information but obviously you can't do that in math; you gotta do the assigned problems (all of it if need be) that the teacher assigns you until you understand how the process works. The teacher usually pulls off questions from the assigned problems for quizzes/tests for math so that's even more of a reason to do them)

But most importantly, to study for a subject on your own, you gotta understand what you are learning, or any studying that you do won't be of your benefit at all.

Alex9
10-31-11, 09:10 PM
I usually get A's but when I do get an unsatisfactory grade on something, it's usually for one of these 3 reasons:

1. Stupid mistakes
2. I spaced out completely when the teacher was teaching something important
3. My brain just doesn't work very well in the way a certain subject requires

These reasons may or may not be the reasons that you're not doing as well as you'd like. I think the key is to recognize why you're not doing well because that helps you decide how to fix your problems.

I also think that crazystarf brought up some really good points. One thing that I see from a lot of my friends is that they study and memorize the material without understanding it. Understand before memorizing. All the facts in the world are useless if you don't understand them. Also, just remember that different subjects require different methods of studying.

Feel free to pm me if you want to talk about any specifics about any of your classes. I'd try to help you.

Black_Rose1809
11-01-11, 04:31 PM
I understand your pain. I was like that too for a bit with Math. No matter how many time I took the same damned Math 0308, I always failed. I don't know why, I was never good with math. Then I thought of one soulution, My ADD. So I went to the school and told them I need accomidations. So they set me up with a psych doctor and she told me two things that completely fix my problems in a flash:

1. I have ADD that actually needs medications.
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Black_Rose1809
11-01-11, 04:33 PM
To complete what I wrote:

I was completely at awe, since I've gone all my life without it and felt fine. But it could mess me up so much that I just didn't notice, since I was used to it.

2. I have the math form of dyslexia. I didn't know that existed, but it answers all my problems... completely.

So she gave me Vyvanse and I feel okay! Just some two or three side effects I hate, but I can live with. All you got to do is get help and try your best. If you know you need the extra help, study extra, do extra homework and take tutoring. It can help.

rickymooston
11-01-11, 09:29 PM
Feelthelie

Dealing with "not getting A's" is pretty difficult on a general basis.

You have a higher IQ than I do, if that means anything. I had A's, B's and C's in school as far as I can remember.

If you want help in school. You will have to be specific.

Choose a subject, you want to get an A in and let's look at what problems you experienced in that subject.

Make a different thread for each subject.

I had a hard time getting A's. Bad memory was part of it. I made a lot of careless mistakes. I was not very organized. In university and highschool, I still got As, in some cases.

Other subjects, got tripped up getting assignments done.

Michiko74
11-02-11, 02:17 PM
I think it's time to call in the professionals. Assuming your ADHD is under control, than something else is getting in the way of your learning. Have you ever been assessed for a learning disability?

Whatever the problem is, you need some help to get you through this.

Alex9
11-06-11, 10:49 PM
I agree with michiko. You have a pretty high IQ and your on medication for adhd and your still not getting satisfactory grades, so you really need to look into the cause. In your case, I think that chronic failure despite a good IQ means that a learning disability is a possibility. If you do end up having a learning disorder than the school can accommodate you with an IEP, which could end up being very helpful.