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entrepreneurKid
11-08-11, 03:12 PM
Hey all, just thought I'd share this.

I just started taking Omega 3 Vitamins. And Boy! Do they do wonders!

I'm taking a "Non Fish" one by the way, it's from Flax seed.

I am just way more happy, and focused through out the day!
Even if you're on meds, you have to try it!

The one I'm taking, the brand is "Nature Made."
And I'm taking 500mg Omega 3. You take 2 capsules a day, probably winds up being 1,000mg per day?

I was really skeptical- read the bottle like crazy. Making sure I'm not taking one that had anything to do with Fish. The one I got is from Flax Seed. I watched a 1 hour Segment on NBC about Fish oil- in Vitamins not being safe or whatever. If you get the one that says "Omega 3,6 & 9" I think it'll have fish in it. The 3 is the one you want anyway.

What I already know about Omega 3's:
I read it's Great to have while you're pregnant!
It's what really helps promote happiness! I think it helps your Seratonin or something.
And lack of it, will have you sorta depressed- in a bad mood. And I guess makes it hard for you to focus- cause your body is sorta lacking something- & doesn't feel "Fresh & ready" It's more like in "Blah mode"

So yeah, I can recommend that.

entrepreneurKid
11-08-11, 03:15 PM
And oh! I'm also taking a Multi Vitamin, why not right?

I chose to take a Disney Gummy Bear one. Even though I'm 25 haha. Just thinking- if it's for kids, it has to be like top notch as far as standards go. And if Disney's on it too.

I got the like Disney Fairy ones haha. I'm a dude by the way haha.

I chose those because it doesn't have Artificial Flavors, the Flinstone ones do. And it doesn't have Iron, & yeah, just seemed to be the best one.

They are Sour Gummies by the way.

fracturedstory
11-08-11, 05:48 PM
You're an interesting one, you are.

I usually take fish oil on the days where I need it. Unmedicated or medicated.
I actually need to buy some so thanks for reminding me.

Gummy vitamins...you learn something new everyday.

kilted_scotsman
11-08-11, 06:14 PM
Just buy an oily fish.

simpler, cheaper, tastier

kilted

pechemignonne
11-08-11, 06:32 PM
Just buy an oily fish.

simpler, cheaper, tastier

kilted
Sez you.

I hates the taste of fish.

Plus you have to cook it, and you don't have to cook pills. ;)

Lunacie
11-08-11, 07:05 PM
I've been taking Omega 3 supplements for over 9 years, they work great
for me too. But just like stimulant meds, they don't work for everyone.

They don't do much for my mood but they help my focus. For some people
it's the other way around and they help with mood but not with focus.
You won't know until you try, eh?

Some people get "fishy burps" from them. And don't take too much as
they are a blood thinner.

entrepreneurKid
11-08-11, 09:37 PM
Can something bad come from taking "Blood thinners?" When you don't need them?

pechemignonne
11-08-11, 11:16 PM
It can cause excessive bleeding. It means that your blood doesn't clot as well as it should, which can be dangerous if you have any kind of wound (you will lose more blood and faster) and can cause some other problems as well I believe...

Skiwampus
11-08-11, 11:43 PM
I have been taking some supplements for the last few days as well--including fish oil.

From the research I've gathered, you want a high Omega 3 (EPA) just like you said.

I've also crammed in some B vitamins, a multi-vitamin, Ginko, and Ginseng. I have an appointment with an "internal medicine" specialist doctor who is proficient with supplements to run by all these pills I am taking to make sure it is okay--I'll see what he thinks; I have heard that the Ginseng is a type of stimulant in of itself and you need to be careful when mixing with prescribed stimulants.

All in all, I think I do feel better (better mood, more focus, and more energy) when I take these supplement in addition to my Ritalin (rather than the Ritalin alone). Can't say for sure, though, because it has only been a couple days and I cannot isolate one variable to see what is working and what is not.

Omega is the only supplement that has any real research data to support its' effectiveness; although, it was only one study done with children and they measured hyperactivity.

Kunga Dorji
11-09-11, 06:27 AM
Just buy an oily fish.

simpler, cheaper, tastier

kilted

Especially if you enjoy the tang of the mercury pollution!

(I'm serious- the fish supply is no longer safe- except in small quantities.
The better quality fish oils are purified so that their maximum allowable levels of mercury are less than 1/1000 those permitted by the FDA and related overseas regulatory agencies.

Mercury is a potent neurotoxin- and there is enough documented evidence to suggest that problems with heavy metal excretion are common in ADHD:
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshQZ.htm

[quote]
We've known for more than 20 years that the metallothionein protein system does not perform well in most ADHD patients. About 68% of them exhibit very poor control of Cu & Zn, based on lab data from more than 6,000 patients diagnosed with ADD/ADHD. Autism is different in that about 90% of patients exhibit Cu/Zn imbalances that are generally much more severe than in ADHD.
[quote]

Kunga Dorji
11-09-11, 06:31 AM
I've been taking Omega 3 supplements for over 9 years, they work great
for me too. But just like stimulant meds, they don't work for everyone.

They don't do much for my mood but they help my focus. For some people
it's the other way around and they help with mood but not with focus.
You won't know until you try, eh?

Some people get "fishy burps" from them. And don't take too much as
they are a blood thinner.


Quite right- they definitely do not work for everyone.

I stopped mine recently- thought I was "good enough" to be able to do without.
I was not.

The blood thinner issue is interesting- I understand that it is now recognised that they do not cause excessive blood thinning. This is relatively new info- and right now I cannot reference it.

I was at a talk about it quite recently and the specialist said that up to date surgeons are no longer concerned about the need to cease fish oil prior to surgery.

If I can locate the reference I will post it- but I am going flat out at the moment, and it might just slip my mind.

entrepreneurKid
11-09-11, 03:30 PM
Barliman, and anyone else reading -

This girl I know that was studying to be a doctor, once she seen me eating Flinstone Gummy Vitamins, like a couple at a time. And she was like Don't do that!!! She said if you take to many vitamins, it may not be a good idea. I guess that applies to taking several different types of vitamins too (1 of each or whatever.)

I guess you can get a UTI from it, or Kidney stones, liver damage etc..

And I remember when I was younger, I took a grip of vitamins & I felt funny. So I called the Posion control which is 1-800-222-1222 & told them, they said yeah! Taking too many vitamins isn't good. That's why I'm playing it safe, just taking 1 multi vitamin (Kids Multivitamin) & then the Omega 3 from Flax seed.

Maybe I'll take a B Vitamin.
What does the B do/feel like?

thanks!

ggg556
11-09-11, 08:55 PM
I just started taking fish oil pills about a week ago, along with a One-a-Day multi-vitamin. My focus or mood hasn't changed but my body feels refreshed like my blood is flowing better / carrying more oxygen. I noticed that my head feels less "heavy" like I'm getting more oxygen to my brain or something. As for the thinning of blood, I have had a couple nosebleeds, real gushers too. I take the fish oil 3x (1000 mg) a day as per the bottle. Maybe that's too much.

Lunacie
11-10-11, 09:26 AM
Interesting to hear that fish oil may not be a blood thinner after all. If I
were taking another blood thinner I'd certainly think twice about taking
both together.

I've read research that concludes that the human body doesn't process
Omega 3 from flax seed oil as readily as it does from fish oil. I take the
fish oil supplements.

Huh, didn't know that about taking too much when it comes to vitamins,
but it seems to be true. My diet isn't the greatest and I don't eat vitamin-
fortified cereal, so I'll continue to take my one dose of Vitamins D,
B-complex, and Magnesium.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5394282_many-vitamins-dangerous.html

entrepreneurKid
11-10-11, 03:34 PM
Do any of you guys know if the "Gel Capsule" from the Gel caps of Gelcap vitamins isn't such a good thing to be taking?

I remember at hockey this kid said something about it. I can't remember what he said, I went online looking around- couldn't really find anything.

Do any of you guys know anything?

I was considering just taking my gel cap- dumping into some water & drinking that water.

ginniebean
11-10-11, 04:18 PM
I've definitely tried the Omega 3 and so far with no real results. I took it for over six months hoping that I was getting some sort of subtle help that would take me awhile to notice. In any case it can't hurt (barring having thin blood)

entrepreneurKid
11-10-11, 08:45 PM
So is that for sure then? Will anyone taking Omega 3's have thin blood?

And I'm not taking Fish Oil, I'm taking Omega 3's from Flax Seed- no fish.

Kunga Dorji
11-12-11, 11:19 PM
Barliman, and anyone else reading -

This girl I know that was studying to be a doctor, once she seen me eating Flinstone Gummy Vitamins, like a couple at a time. And she was like Don't do that!!! She said if you take to many vitamins, it may not be a good idea. I guess that applies to taking several different types of vitamins too (1 of each or whatever.)

I guess you can get a UTI from it, or Kidney stones, liver damage etc..

And I remember when I was younger, I took a grip of vitamins & I felt funny. So I called the Poison control which is 1-800-222-1222 & told them, they said yeah! Taking too many vitamins isn't good. That's why I'm playing it safe, just taking 1 multi vitamin (Kids Multivitamin) & then the Omega 3 from Flax seed.

Maybe I'll take a B Vitamin.
What does the B do/feel like?

thanks!

Different vitamins carry different risks
Mega doses of Vit C- kidney stones are possible
Very High doses of Vitamin A- liver damage.

Some Antarctic explorers actually died of Vitamin A poisoning from eating the livers of their sled dogs.

Overall the biggest dangers of needlessly taking too many Vitamins are probably financial.- you end up passing very expensive urine.

Realistically there probably needs to be some effort made to tailor vitamin supplementation to the individual;
Again from the reference I posted before:
http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshQZ.htm

SAMe is very promising for undermethylated persons and a bad idea for those who suffer from a genetic tendency for overmethylation. I don't particularly like the "allopathic" method you referred to which is simply trial & error. SAMe can do great harm if given to the wrong person. I hate going to funerals. (17 Dec, 2002)
Now at this stage- I rely on professional advice for the specifics of this stuff. I simply do not know enough to randomly recommend one thing or the other.
If my patients ask- I refer them to someone better qualified.(Some Integrative Medicine doctors, some medical herbalists, some chiropractors, and one neuropsychologist). In this area I rely on referring to individuals whose track record I can be confident of. I do NOT refer on the basis of the academic qualification or membership of a specific professional craft group.

What I do know is that this is a very interesting and very promising area- and it will pay close attention.

I have mentioned Nutrigenomics before- the idea of doing a genetic assay and looking for individual polymorphisms that suggest the possible benefit of specific supplements.

This is an example of one lab doing this stuff in Australia:
http://www.smartdna.net.au/

I would think that when we start doing this routinely then we will be targeting our supplementation well enough to get results robust enough to appear in randomised control trials.

I think that one of the main reasons that we have such poor overall results so far is that we have not been able to target our supplementation accurately enough.

IE If you give a blanket supplementation to a whole population and only say40% of that populationis likely to benefit then any improvement seen will be lost in the overall "signal-noise" ratio.

So what I am saying here is- if you go into this area- do your own research, and make your own observations.

It is always good to ask a practitioner what should be the expected "end point" of his proposed intervention. IE
"How will I know if it is working?".

Kunga Dorji
11-12-11, 11:28 PM
Interesting to hear that fish oil may not be a blood thinner after all. If I
were taking another blood thinner I'd certainly think twice about taking
both together.

I've read research that concludes that the human body doesn't process
Omega 3 from flax seed oil as readily as it does from fish oil. I take the
fish oil supplements.

Huh, didn't know that about taking too much when it comes to vitamins,
but it seems to be true. My diet isn't the greatest and I don't eat vitamin-
fortified cereal, so I'll continue to take my one dose of Vitamins D,
B-complex, and Magnesium.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5394282_many-vitamins-dangerous.html

You have hit upon pretty much the core of my personal default "best guess"approach.

LynneC
11-14-11, 10:53 AM
I've definitely tried the Omega 3 and so far with no real results. I took it for over six months hoping that I was getting some sort of subtle help that would take me awhile to notice. In any case it can't hurt (barring having thin blood)
Ginniebean, if you were taking casules you may want to try a good quality liquid fish oil, like Carlson's. (Vitacost online has good prices). 1 or 2 teaspoonsful is what I take, daily. Orange or lemon flavored and no fishy aftertaste. It needs to be refrigerated...

The capsules scare me, because I worry about the propensity of the fishoil in the capsules being rancid (or oxidized... potentially harmful).

Lunacie
11-14-11, 02:14 PM
Ginniebean, if you were taking casules you may want to try a good quality liquid fish oil, like Carlson's. (Vitacost online has good prices). 1 or 2 teaspoonsful is what I take, daily. Orange or lemon flavored and no fishy aftertaste. It needs to be refrigerated...

The capsules scare me, because I worry about the propensity of the fishoil in the capsules being rancid (or oxidized... potentially harmful).

I've gotten a couple of bottles of rancid capsules - I could tell as soon
as I unsealed the bottle. I took them back to the store. After the second
rancid bottle I stopped buying them at that store.