yesterday i went to the dr and he put me on my old regimen of Dextrostat 10mg, 2 TID (three times a day) but last night i took my last dose too late and never went to bed, laid there for like 4 hours and finally when i saw the sun come up i decided to abandon any hopes for sleep and log on and see what was going on. So far im responding ALOT better to the dextrostat than to the ritalin he had me on, so thats a plus, but i have to watch it about taking it too late and not being able to sleep, i can do it for one night but i will be crabby as heck tommorow if i cant sleep tonight. But i just though id start this as sort of a semi diary to document and write down my reactions from going back on the dextrostat, since its been four years since ive been on it, but so far so good...

Very cool. I kind of wonder if we shouldn't make a subforum or something like this for people who are trying new drugs to post medication-diaries...I have a kind of fake one for Zoloft going in the Anxiety section...

Anyways, do keep a semi-diary, that is a great idea and will be helpful to anyone else put on the same drug you are!

Hey, pharmboy,
We both are in the same boat. Wed, i was swiched from adderall 30mg 2x daily (though i took 3 often), to dexedrine Spanuals, 15mg 2x every 8hrs. Now im thinking, this drug is really gonna hit me, do me well. So i get home, take 15mg, and actually fell asleep! But after a while, i woke up, but from sleeping 6 hrs. Well I then took another one, and did not feel much, but i can feel its helping with add, but the dose is just or must be too low. I know the Max dose is 40mgs, as he said, but I actually need 2x as much. Now i have read people taking 60mg a day. So, but the max dose 15mg of spanuals, 10mgs of dextrostat, and 5mg of dexedrine!. Thats the actuall pill. And my doctor and also i looked and the top dose is 40mg, adderall 60mg. So why is this dose less!. Adderall did seem stronger, yet i was on 30mg. Unless they are equall and even though 15mg is top, i may have to take 2.
Im mean I will try taking 1-2 more a day or 2 to see, but if still not much improvement, well its back to adderall. Yet, my insurance wont pay for xr, but i may just have him write me it if it comes down to it, because, reg. adderall, is not enough for 30mg 2x daily.
You see, everyones tolerance, brain chemistry, bodyweight, differs, so who says 40mg is the top dose. WHen alot of people would do much better at 60! Maybe even 75. same goes with adderall. Neither drud made my heart pound, low anxiety, and dex has low low anxiety, like i actualy cut my dose of Klonopin down alot.
Ritalin is not the same as Dexedrine, as some people posted. Not to be a know it all, but, Ritlain, causes more anxiety, less social Properties due to this, and doesnt cause that Nice adderall feeling i used to have back in the day (LOL 3months ago). I have been thinking, and it may be a long shot, but iV downloaded a whole list of psychotropic drugs and their properties. I must have listed 25 dopamine drugs, well not just dopamine, some are mixed, some are reuptakes, or releasers. One or two even Reuptake and Release just like amph. Another is a Reutake and a serotonin 5ht2 agonist, but this can cause some blockage from dopamine, but if one is combining meds and doesnt want full potency , and needs a 5ht2 drug, which i feel is a better receptor of serotonin, may help alot. I wont chance a maoi, unless a RIMA. Also, some Nootropics have psychostimulant properties. So, combining another dopamine med with adderall/Dex, more so a reutake type drug which isnt relaly potent, although maybe more than welbutrin. Survector would have been the ideal drug to take or even supplement for.
To wrap it up, has anyone had any experiences with switching from adderall to dex, and finding some problems.

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well, i didnt sleep at all friday, as i had to be at work at 3pm to work till 2am so friday moring i continued to take my dextrostat and it kept me up, although mentaly i was awake and physically, i still felt like i could just fall down and go to sleep on the spot, not fun. by the time i went to bed sat morn at 3am, i had been up 42 hours strait. but had to wake up a few hours later to be at work at noon. Sat when i got home i took 2 benidril(sp?) (diphenhydramine 25mg) as those had always helped me sleep, and it did, but low and behold i had to be at work at 5am the next day. The dr has prescribed me dextrostat 10mg 2 three times a day for a total of 60mg/day. However i made a mistake of not weening myself on to the drug and proceeded to take it full on the first day, thats what i think kept me up, however i know that i will not use a full 60mg/day such a days off, so actually i have more than a months supply! the dr said that i just need to make an appointment when im about to run out whenever it is, anywhere from 4-5 weeks. The dextrostat is helping a TON more than the ritalin did, i dont crash, i dont have headaches associated with the med, and it last longer per dose. The first day and a half i had an elevated heart rate, however did not experience any palatations, and my heart rate went back to normal by the second day. I notice at night i sweat more often, however i cannot fully contribute that to the meds as my girlfriend insists that we dont use the a.c. anymore and it still gets pretty warm down here in tennessee at night. i did feel as some would say euphoria the first few days, and still feel it slightly as it is only my fifth day, but it was different than i have felt on other medications, i.e. lortab. but im not in it for the "buzzed" feeling as there are alot more cheaper alternitives than this if i were looking for that. However i am thrilled about the price, with my insurance, United Healthcare, i paid just 15 dollars for 180 dextroamphetamine 10mg's, a good deal if you ask me. i opted for the generic as i would save about 25 dollars and the generic was all i could find in stock, and i found it at the EIGHTEENTH pharmacy i called, everytime i would ask if they had it in stock they would transfer me to the pharmacist, who, was always abit suprised that i was looking for 180 of the meds, the most the other pharmacies had in stock was like 20. i have now switched from taking my wellbutrin in the morning to in the evening as it make me a little drowsy, and it helps me go to sleep. i opted for the tablets instead of the spanuals because i would have more control of my dose during the day, and i dont mind taking it three times a day. i would have to take like 40 mg worth of spanuals to get my dose, and i just didnt want to mess with it. I have noticed that i am more focused, however i am getting a little more aggitated in general, but thats just because i work with a bunch of idiots who like to tick me off for some reason. but that will go away with time. i know this medication isnt just a little orange cure all pill, its just a tool to help me better my life, and if i just wait for it to change every aspect of my life without me trying in addition, i will be dissapointed. Today i took one tablet (10mg) at about 6:30am, and didnt take another one till 12:30, and i took 15mgs about an hour ago, as im going to be up past midnight tonight and am off tommorow so am not very worried about not being able to go to sleep. i have thought about instead of taking 20mg three times a day, taking 10mgs 4-6 times a day, that way i take it more often, i stay more level, medically speaking, and i would probably end up taking less in the long run which is good with me. well thats all thats happened since my last entry, i will continue to post my experiences as often as i get a chance

When i started up adderall i found that sleeping was not an option. I am now on dex ( 10 mg (5mgx2) tabs 3 times a day and 5 mg tabs 2 times ). I had a real hell of a time trying to sleep when i first started adderall. I hated it!!! Would have loved it but had to work in the mornings.

tips :

1. Dont force yourself to go to bed. Stay up and be productive, this will help depression.

2. Get up at your normal time!!! Dont sleep in! It will only make your situation worse. If never go to sleep then you never goto sleep. Go on with your day. Keep your meds next to your bed with water. Set an alarm, just incase by luck you fall asleep, to take your meds right when you wake up.

3. Dont take anything to make u sleep. And dont take naps. No Naps!!

4. Try to take your last dose so that you will come down around bed time. I know this is some times hard to do, but you wont have to do it for long.


I hated this phase of the medication. I can not express the anger i had when trying to fall asleep. I would toss and turn. I would even try different places to fall asleep ( floor, couch ....). It is real important to not take naps. Naps can mess up a normal persons sleep routine. Just imagine what it will do to u. I did it and the insomnia lasted forever!!! I tried to take meds, but this is bad because its not recommended. Plus if you do it right you will only deal with this for like a wk or 2 tops.

Why did this happen? Your body is speeding. You are actually experiancing what most coke users go through (cant sleep). Once your body adjusts to the dose and meds you will sleep like a baby. Thank god!!! I can now take my meds whenever i want and usually have no problems falling asleep.