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bensmumsam
01-05-12, 06:47 PM
Hi there,
Ok i have a son aged 4 (5 in feb) and he has always been a very active child, also very clumsy. At nursery he would always be on the go rushing around everywhere, i was called in for a meeting with his key worker who had some concerns, She told me benjamin would be very fidgity and wouldnt sit still at story time or would get up an walk around while the others sat still. He would interrupt other kids playing, would always get angry if he didnt get his own way with things, he never wanted to wait his turn for things. We tried changing his diet at first but tbh he doesnt eat much stuff that would trigger this type of behaviour. Then he started school in september and he is getting worse and also becoming quite violent towards me when he doesnt get his own way. He hits himself when he is angry or throws things. He is so so clumsy most of the time its because he is too interested in whats going on around him an he doesnt look where he is going. His teacher says he doesnt sit still in class, she has to sit next to him and keep repeating to him to do his words/writing. She said he is clever he just has no concentration to do things. His bedtime is a nightmare aswell. He is put to bed at 7:30pm yet is still messing around and playing until well gone 11pm and is wide awake running around at 5:30 6am. He doesnt sleep in the day. We have had 1 meeting with the paediatrician and just waiting for his school assessment and follow up appointment next month. Im just after some advice really...does anyone think this sounds like he could had ADHD? i have a cousin who is autistic and benjamin shows some of those traits but i know its not that. Also if anyone has any tips on bedtime routines as im at my wits end now and im a single parent with no help or support around me.

ccom5100
01-05-12, 11:14 PM
It does sound like adhd to me. When my ds was that age, we got pretty much the same feedback from school that you are receiving. Definitely get an assessment. I would ask the pediatrician to refer you to an adhd specialist for the assessment. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

bensmumsam
01-06-12, 10:56 AM
Thank you for your reply. I hope the paediatrician does some more in the way of assesment this time, as we were there like 30 mins last time and just asked benjamin some questions then checked his body over and asked him to do a few things but this doesnt show how he is day to day. If i dont get anywhere with the paediatrician this time i will ask for a 2nd opinion or to be referred to an ADHD specialist because i know they way he is isnt (and i dont really like to use this word) 'normal'. I just get frustrated waiting and i know its not an easy thing getting diagnosed.

happytexas
01-06-12, 11:27 AM
We have had 1 meeting with the paediatrician and just waiting for his school assessment and follow up appointment next month. Im just after some advice really...does anyone think this sounds like he could had ADHD? i have a cousin who is autistic and benjamin shows some of those traits but i know its not that. Also if anyone has any tips on bedtime routines as im at my wits end now and im a single parent with no help or support around me.

Sounds like it could be ADHD to me--that is how ds acted at that age :o.

Two things we used to help with sleep is the over the counter (in the US) supplement Melatonin (time-release version) and room darkening curtains; the curtains weren't much help until we started the Melatonin. Ds likes to read in bed so this year we bought ds (7yo) a Sunset Dimmer; after ds pushes the button the lamp stays on for 30 minutes and gradually gets dimmer until it turns off.

Regarding Autism...Autism is a Spectrum; there is a wide range of function from HFA (High Functioning Autism, or Asperger's) to classic Autism. The symptoms of ADHD, Aspergers/Autism, and SPD (sensory processing disorder) overlap and can be co-morbid (existing simultaneously).

Here is an interesting article that discusses this AANE - Is it Asperger's or ADHD? (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aane.org%2Fasperger_resources %2Farticles%2Fmiscellaneous%2Faspergers_or_adhd.ht ml&ei=kQsHT460MIbnsQLQpumQCg&usg=AFQjCNFW_GgHyalsz1d1bRoj8oTBvidXPQ&sig2=_QYLEGH3RjxgArlYKWlbNw)

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Dizfriz's Corner. (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60130)
These are my ADHD related essays. I am posting these here so I can refer to them as needed.

The 30% rule. Probably the most helpful thing that can be given to the parent of an ADHD child.
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...6&postcount=18 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=641396&postcount=18)

Time Sense in ADHD Children. Very important to help understanding ADHD children.
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...12&postcount=1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=649512&postcount=1)

ADHD Children and Point of Performance and External Consequences. Absolutely critical in helping ADHD children.
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...16&postcount=1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=663516&postcount=1)

Acknowledgments as way of working with ADHD children.
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...77&postcount=1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=658077&postcount=1)

Grieving because your child is ADHD
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...92&postcount=1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=644792&postcount=1)

Time Out
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...09&postcount=1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=729709&postcount=1)

Career path for ADHD'ers
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72027

ADHD Medications and How They Work
http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...7&postcount=11 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=815547&postcount=11)

What is ADHD and how does it affect people?
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90274

"Lying" In Children
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93980

Discipline
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100084

Discipline Part 2
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100410


These are meant to be of help. Use them as you will.

Dizfriz
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What is Executive Function? - National Center for Learning Disabilities (http://www.ncld.org/ld-basics/ld-aamp-executive-functioning/basic-ef-facts/what-is-executive-function)

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Information Processing Disorders (http://www.ncld.org/ld-basics/related-issues/information-processing/information-processing-disorders)

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Pragmatics: The Social Aspects of Communication (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wisc-online.com%2Fobjects%2Findex_tj.asp%3FobjID%3DECE5 06&ei=nw4HT6z5NYrHsQKfxOiQCg&usg=AFQjCNE-5NypLeAT9UvDW7XPLMmoz6GTdQ&sig2=cXhmRfYZHpj6rOZy_VkzaA)

*The above link has a LOUD audio intro.
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ADHD UK

ARE WE PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION? (http://www.addiss.co.uk/payingenoughattention.pdf)

LARGEST UK PARENT CONVENTION (http://www.addiss.co.uk/final.pdf)

Support Groups (http://www.addiss.co.uk/links.htm)
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Google - uk special education advocacy
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sarahsweets
01-06-12, 12:16 PM
I wouldn't wait on the school. Find a psychiatrist. A peds doctor has very little knowledge of adhd especially in a young child. This way you will have your own eval to back you up if the school disagrees. With your own eval you can petition for him to get accommodations or services.

Ms. Mango
01-06-12, 01:58 PM
Hopefully some of our UK members will give you some insight about getting help and services. It seems like there are a lot of hoops to jump through over there.

Sure it could be ADHD or something on the autism spectrum, but have you ruled out possible physical causes? Your son is getting very little sleep for a 4 (almost 5) year old. I don't know of too many kids who would not stumble around and melt down on a daily basis if they only got about 6 hours of sleep per night.

Lots of kids with ADHD or ASD sleep less (or have less restful sleep) than their typical peers. My son has always required slightly less sleep per night than most kids his age--at whatever age--he generally sleeps about an hour less than the least amount given as typical. The range I've seen for kids your son's age is 10-12 hours per day so you can see that there's a huge gap there.

Have you had an opportunity to observe him when he's asleep? Does he snore? Appear to hold his breath? Have problems with tonsils or adenoids? Would it be possible to have a sleep study done? He may be one of those people who just doesn't require much sleep or he could have a problem that is severely affecting his ability to function during the day.

bensmumsam
01-06-12, 02:58 PM
He moves around alot at night, he also seems to have bad dreams quite alot. He does snore yes

happytexas
01-06-12, 03:54 PM
He moves around alot at night, he also seems to have bad dreams quite alot. He does snore yes

I'd ask his doctor about the possibility of doing a sleep study. Lack of quality sleep can cause or worsen ADHD symptoms.

ADHD and Sleep Disorders: Snoring, Sleep Apnea, Restless Leg ...2 page article...
(http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/adhd-sleep-disorders)