View Full Version : My son may have Aspergers?


Spacemaster
02-09-12, 07:35 PM
I went with my son to a routine checkup, and the doctor judged by his behavior that he probably has a developmental disorder, possibly Aspergers. He is four years old, and I don't really see the connection with Aspergers.

He has a severe noise tolerance, for example, toilets in public restrooms scare him because they are too noisy. The hair dryer is way too noisy. If dogs are barking, or he knows that there will be dogs in the house that we are visiting, he holds his hands to his ears. His noise intolerance is rather severe.

The other thing, is he won't let anyone mess with him, like putting the oxygen meter on his finger, and wouldn't let anyone near him with the ear phones to test his hearing. He would never allow a dentist in his mouth. ever. This should be interesting in the near future.

The last thing is discipline. It doesn't seem to matter what you do, whatever the consequences. I can deny him his favorite toys, put him in time-outs, you name it. If I say, "you can't have your leggos if you don't behave" He'll just say "I don't want my leggos", and he'll just continue his behavior.

Does this sound like Aspergers, or anything else for that matter? We'll do a consult with the doctor, but I'd like opinions. I know it's not much to go on, but any clues in the right direction would help.

Fraser_0762
02-09-12, 07:43 PM
The noise intolerance sounds like sensory overload which is usually associated with Attenetion Defecit Disorder. But its not uncommon to have symptoms of both Aspergers and ADD.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers when I was 5, i'm 21 now and have struggled with concentration and organisation my whole life. Sensory overload plays a huge part in this and i'm quite often distracted by background noises.

Spacemaster
02-09-12, 07:53 PM
I should add that my son is rather physically clumsy, and has almost no success with writing his letters. He should be able to do way better than he can do now.

ADHD certainly wouldn't surprise me at all. I have it, therefore there is a good chance he might. I didn't like loud noises when I was young, but not as bad as my son.

Fraser_0762
02-09-12, 07:59 PM
I should add that my son is rather physically clumsy, and has almost no success with writing his letters. He should be able to do way better than he can do now.

ADHD certainly wouldn't surprise me at all. I have it, therefore there is a good chance he might. I didn't like loud noises when I was young, but not as bad as my son.

Yes, I also had these difficulties and remember getting a helper in to my classrooms who would do something called the "Phoenix Code Cracker" program (or something across those lines). It really helped me to develop my writing and letter recognition skills, perhaps your son just needs an extra bit of help in that department. But i'd certainly look into the sensory overload issue, I always needed a "time out" away from the other children in order to focus on some work when I was a kid.

Lunacie
02-09-12, 08:23 PM
I went with my son to a routine checkup, and the doctor judged by his behavior that he probably has a developmental disorder, possibly Aspergers. He is four years old, and I don't really see the connection with Aspergers.

He has a severe noise tolerance, for example, toilets in public restrooms scare him because they are too noisy. The hair dryer is way too noisy. If dogs are barking, or he knows that there will be dogs in the house that we are visiting, he holds his hands to his ears. His noise intolerance is rather severe.

The other thing, is he won't let anyone mess with him, like putting the oxygen meter on his finger, and wouldn't let anyone near him with the ear phones to test his hearing. He would never allow a dentist in his mouth. ever. This should be interesting in the near future.

The last thing is discipline. It doesn't seem to matter what you do, whatever the consequences. I can deny him his favorite toys, put him in time-outs, you name it. If I say, "you can't have your leggos if you don't behave" He'll just say "I don't want my leggos", and he'll just continue his behavior.

Does this sound like Aspergers, or anything else for that matter? We'll do a consult with the doctor, but I'd like opinions. I know it's not much to go on, but any clues in the right direction would help.

Yes, it sounds a lot like my granddaughter who was finally diagnosed with
Atypical Autism. We have to have nitrous oxide or laughing gas (both of us)
to let a dentist work on our teeth. For anything beyond a dental exam, they
have to use general anesthesia for my granddaughter.

We both have sensory issues, you can learn a lot by googling for Sensory
Processing Disorder. It's actually even more common with Autism/Asperger's
than with ADHD.

CheekyMonkey
02-09-12, 08:37 PM
It could be mainly sensory thing, it could also be Aspergers. I would find a really good doctor that is familiar with both ADHD and ASD to get an eval.

Fraser_0762
02-09-12, 08:41 PM
Does your son struggle with general motor functions at all? and seem to do things a little differently than his peers do? Perhaps the way he holds a pencil? Or the way he walks? (You said he was physically clumbsy)

Poor motor functions combined with poor concentration and letter recognition are often associated with "Dyspraxia".

Here is some information on it on Wikipedia which may be of some use to you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_dyspraxia

It can also effect short term memory and resembles ADD in quite a lot of ways. It's also not uncommon for it to co-exist with AS or ADHD.

Spacemaster
02-09-12, 10:27 PM
He's clumsy in that he stumbles quite a bit, trips over himself, walks into things. I guess I do the same things. I am quite clumsy. He's not real adept at going down stairs either.

Fraser_0762
02-09-12, 10:28 PM
It certainly sounds like an issue with motor skills. I would certainly raise that point up at your sons next appointment if you haven't already done so.

fracturedstory
02-10-12, 10:07 PM
When he says 'I don't want my legos' he's not allowing you to take them away, he just still doesn't want to listen to you and stop his behaviour. It's what a lot of kids do. I've probably even said it at some point.

Sensory issues and motor clumsiness is very common in Asperger's, even more so the latter than in classic autism. People with ADHD have those issues too but they're not usually severe. For example I can't go down the street without getting sensory overload and then disorientation. I used to have correction shoes that helped me walk with a straight back. I think I need to get them back.

Your son could have dyspraxia too. That's like severe clumsiness that's caused between a delay between the brain and body movements. There is intensive therapy that may help him recover.

Fortune
02-10-12, 10:19 PM
The noise intolerance sounds like sensory overload which is usually associated with Attenetion Defecit Disorder. But its not uncommon to have symptoms of both Aspergers and ADD.

Sensory overload is far more associated with the autistic spectrum than with ADHD, although it's possible with both (just less severe and less frequently with ADHD than with autism).

insight needed
02-10-12, 10:26 PM
I would strongly suggest that you have your son evaluated by an occupational therapist. I don't know about where you live, but here in PA, you could request that your son receive a comprehensive evaluation from the county Intermediate Unit, and request specifically that he recieve an occupational therapy evaluation. Other components of the evaluation would be a psychologist, educational specialist/teacher, and speech and language psychologist. The occupational therapist is qualified to determine whether your son has a sensory processing disorder, as well as difficulties with motor coordination. Sensory processing disorders can co-exist with another diagnosis such as ADHD or an autism spectrum disorder or can pretty much be a "stand alone" condition. Your pediatrician should be able to point you in the direction of getting a more complete evaluation.

adhdvsaspi
02-11-12, 06:43 PM
aspergers vs adhd... I have done alot of research over the last couple days sensory intergration problems are a co-existing symptom. If your dr dx aspergs special education services (therapy for developmental problems) become available to your son from your local school district. Usually through a pre-k program. where adhd does not qualify unless he is doing poorly in school... and being 4 public school not likely. However, more likely if he is dx Aspergers. The sooner the therapy the better. Therapy worked so well for my oldest, when we moved they didn't recognize the Aspergers and Dx adhd. Sheldon in "Big bang theroy" has aspbergs I see little of the typical symptoms. Yesterday they dx aspergers. The big thing is aspergers is a medical condition that can ruins a persons insure-ability. both medical and life my nephews was canceled at the company's first chance (late payment). Just learn lost and make educated decision. good luck