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bethie44
03-16-12, 09:41 PM
I would like to hear from people who have tried various herbal supplements to treat your ADHD symptoms. What did you try, and what were the effects? I'm not going to go into all of the reasons why, but I want to get a lot of harmful things out of my body. I feel horrible. The main things that I am working to come off of are caffeine, Adderall and artificial sweeteners. Thanks for your feedback.

Dizfriz
03-17-12, 06:52 AM
I would like to hear from people who have tried various herbal supplements to treat your ADHD symptoms. What did you try, and what were the effects? I'm not going to go into all of the reasons why, but I want to get a lot of harmful things out of my body. I feel horrible. The main things that I am working to come off of are caffeine, Adderall and artificial sweeteners. Thanks for your feedback.

Many have come here over the years asking this question and it is a good one. I wish very much that there was something that was shown to really help but mostly there is nothing in the way of supplements that has any real evidence for treating ADHD.

Here is a quick recap of what I know:
There is some evidence that fish oil (Omega 3) is beneficial for some but not all. Enough evidence is available to show some real possibilities but I suspect it works only for specific subsets of ADHD. Perhaps it might work for you but you simply will have to try it if you choose to look at this route.

We do know that artificial flavorings and colorings can make certain sensitive individuals show greater signs of hyperactivity but again this is only for a relatively small subset. Nothing wrong in eliminating these from your diet though. It can't hurt and it might help.

Some have sensitivity to certain food groups. This might be something to look into. Like the flavorings and colorings, these do not cause ADHD but can bring on or increase symptoms.

Other than that, I know of no supplement that is shown to have any significant impact on ADHD. As with most of these type things, a few might report being helped but most do not. I wish it was otherwise but it is not.

We know that a good healthy diet can help general well being and this can have an impact on the expression of ADHD symptoms. That is very much worth pursuing.

Other than that there are only two validated treatments for ADHD, medication and behavior management.

If you are having issues with Adderol, you might consider talking with you doc and see about trying another drug. There are several medication alternatives and finding the right treatment sometimes takes a bit of trial and error.

Good luck,

Dizfriz

bethie44
03-17-12, 11:24 AM
As far as wanting to eliminate these things from my diet, ADHD symptoms are not the only reason why. I have been having a lot of heart palpitations and also a mixture of anxiety, fatigue and insomnia. I just have a general feeling of being unwell. I want to improve my health overall. I really just don't want to be on any stimulants anymore. At the same time, I naturally have low energy. (If I do indeed have ADHD, it would be the inattentive type, definitely not the hyperactive type. I think that categorizing people's symptoms can be both harmful and hurtful. I think that it should be viewed more as a spectrum rather than saying that someone either has this label or doesn't. Labels should, in my opinion, only be used so that we can know how to treat people with these symptoms/ issues). That was a rabbit trail. The reason I said all that was to say that I also don't want to take any of the non-stimulant medications as I have read that these can make you sleepy. I definitely do not need that.

I read that there is some preliminary evidence that a ginseng/ginkgo combo could help with focus and mental clarity as well as energy. I am going to give it a shot, and I will let you all know. Thank you for response.

Jimitrius
04-04-12, 10:35 PM
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xllr8er
04-30-12, 05:03 PM
Rhodiola. it's strange, a bit subtle,.... til you don't take it :P.
It's like it kicks in where you drive might normally fail, and just keeps going till you're done. Obviously not as powerful as adderall, but has definite "calming" properties. It's not sedation, but calmness with drive.

I noticed it had me -doing-, w/o my noticing. It wasn't till after that I noticed I actually finished a task I'd normally leave half done. So..... yeah worth a try.:yes:

New Chapter brand seems to be the ticket.
FWIW

pechemignonne
04-30-12, 05:13 PM
Please inform and consult your doctor about taking any "herbal" or "natural" supplements.

These are not necessarily less dangerous nor do they necessarily have less side effects than pharmaceuticals, and they are much less regulated.

You can easily cause yourself harm by mixing such products and using them without a doctor's knowledge.

bethie44
04-30-12, 06:08 PM
That sounds interesting. I am thinking of seeing an herbalist at some point. As I have heart and thyroid issues (and therefore should have probably never been on Adderall), I have to be extra careful about herbal supplements. I take antidepressants as well as Synthroid, and those are things that an herbalist would need to know as well. Btw, I know that herbalists are not doctors, but I am going to a new integrative medicine center, and the herbalist collaborates with a medical doctor. I am also planning to schedule an appointment with a dietitian this week. I want to improve my diet as much as possible and then evaluate what problems I'm still having. Thanks for the advice/tips, everyone.

xllr8er
05-01-12, 12:53 AM
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400399/Rhodiola-for-What-Ails-You.html
a bit of info, about rhodiola.
but, yeah mixing not usually a good thing. I only took this straight.

Retromancer
05-01-12, 12:58 AM
Google 'site:addforums.com herbal natural supplements adhd'.

tudorose
05-01-12, 10:26 AM
I'd recomend that you go see a naturopath. I'm seeing one for RRV (like CFS) and it has helped. It hasn't done anything for the adhd but that's not what I went there for. I really think you should see a professional so you can get the pharmacutical grade supplements. It's more expensive but it's safer and the naturopaths are generally uni trained. The only thing I've taken that has impacted on my behaviour was Spirulina. Took the pms away instantly.

ginniebean
05-01-12, 11:35 AM
I'd recomend that you go see a naturopath. I'm seeing one for RRV (like CFS) and it has helped. It hasn't done anything for the adhd but that's not what I went there for. I really think you should see a professional so you can get the pharmacutical grade supplements. It's more expensive but it's safer and the naturopaths are generally uni trained. The only thing I've taken that has impacted on my behaviour was Spirulina. Took the pms away instantly.


I've been thinking about spirulina lately. Years back I tried it and I stopped because along with it came insomnia. Maybe I'll have some effect.

spunkysmum
05-01-12, 04:46 PM
Please inform and consult your doctor about taking any "herbal" or "natural" supplements.

These are not necessarily less dangerous nor do they necessarily have less side effects than pharmaceuticals, and they are much less regulated.

You can easily cause yourself harm by mixing such products and using them without a doctor's knowledge.

I agree.

I believe my Adderall to be a lot less risky than trying the various "herbal energy" products sold in truck stops and gas stations.

spunkysmum
05-01-12, 05:16 PM
I would like to hear from people who have tried various herbal supplements to treat your ADHD symptoms. What did you try, and what were the effects? I'm not going to go into all of the reasons why, but I want to get a lot of harmful things out of my body. I feel horrible. The main things that I am working to come off of are caffeine, Adderall and artificial sweeteners. Thanks for your feedback.

Reading down through your subsequent posts I see that you have said that you are at risk for having cardiovascular issues that may make Adderall a poor risk for you, so I won't try to talk you out of your fears about that, since it would seem they are well-founded. Have you tried any of the non-stimulant ADHD meds?

As to the artificial sweeteners....the last time I had to go without Adderall for a couple weeks or so I was trying to use energy shots as a temporary substitute and started to notice that fatigue and "withdrawal symptoms" were actually getting worse. I came to this conclusion after I realized that when I would wake up in the morning and take the shots soon after waking like I do with Adderall, I actually felt BETTER when I first woke up than I did later on. I believe it was the artificial sweeteners in the energy shots I was taking that were making me feel like crap, offsetting any benefit from the therapeutic ingredients in the stuff. I know there are a lot of scary email forwards and rap sheets on artificial sweeteners circulating the internet and when I read those my first instinct is to conclude that there is a LOT of exaggerating and fear-mongering in them, but I do believe that some people are negatively affected by them, and if you're one of those people, eliminating them from your diet could easily result in noticeable improvement in the way you feel.

The same could be true for eliminating caffeine. It could be that you just shouldn't be taking BOTH caffeine and Adderall at the same time. Have you tried eliminating the caffeine and artificial sweeteners while continuing to take the Adderall?

I know what it's like to have a persistent feeling of general malaise. I suffer from chronic constipation and there are times when I can really tell that there are toxins and stuff just basically "locked up" inside my system because my elimination system is not working efficiently. Trying your best to replace caffeinated and artificially sweetened beverages with lots of regular water intake could really be worth a try (and I know, drinking water when you want "sweet", like with salty foods, is not always appealing or easy to get used to, so instead of trying to go off sweet drinks cold turkey, perhaps you could try drinking smaller amounts of higher-quality beverages, like natural fruit smoothie drinks, which are more expensive than cheap soda or sugary fruit drinks but could be worth it. There's one by Bolthouse Farms that I like to buy when I go to Walmart because it has by far the highest fiber content of any of the similar drinks I've seen sold - 8 grams of fiber per serving, and 4 servings in a $3.28 bottle.)

APSJ
05-09-12, 09:38 AM
Please keep posts responsive to the thread topic. Off topic posts have been removed.

Cameron80
05-15-12, 06:30 PM
Lots of people say there is no "scientific evidence" on treating ADHD w/ herbs/supplements and while that may be true for now, I think they can make a significant difference. I'm going to expand a bit more than just talking about just supplements if that's ok...

I was diagnosed with ADHD around the time I was 15. I've been on Adderall and a few other meds, and while I found those meds to be helpful at times, the side-effects became debilitating and almost wrecked my life.

That said, the best results have come from the following:

1. Going Gluten-Free- it has helped my digestion, and has made me more clear-headed. I had no idea just how much eating tons of bread had adversely affected my health

2. Taking a supplement called Ginkgo Smart (Irwin Naturals) which has a lot of brain boosters. Seems to really get my brain going and there is no drop-off/come-down

3. Exercising enough to keep your body awake and not sluggish, for me it's 2 times a week for 40 mins. Ideally I should be doing it three days a week.

4. Drinking caffeine, not coffee, but tea. Caffeine wakes me up and I don't feel jittery from it

5. Limiting alcohol intake especially the gluten-heavy beer, limiting drinking to weekends

6. Eating Quinoa every morning- a protein loaded with amino-acids. I find this to really give me an energy boost.


More or less by following the 5 steps I've been in much, much better shape in the past few months. *edit* I didn't originally include that I eat lots of fruits/veggies and organic food. If this is too pricey, finding creative ways to avoid bad sweets is really helpful. The anxiety that consumed me is held in check and I feel much better about things. Instead of feeling defined by ADHD, I've crossed the line to being a functional right-brained person. I know that I'm never going to be detail-oriented person, or super-organized, but I'm functional in my own way. Hope this helps.

qanda
05-16-12, 06:25 PM
I agree.

I believe my Adderall to be a lot less risky than trying the various "herbal energy" products sold in truck stops and gas stations.

I believe the post said herbal supplements, not herbal energy products. I don't think the supplements I buy are found at truck stops and gas stations, but I must admit I've never looked for them there. I found the vitamin shop near my house a convenient place to get mine.