What is the best way to get fired and still keep elibility for unemployment beneifts? I want to leave my job, but I would prefer to leave and have some money come in while I look for another one. Anyone else get fired before and still able to obtain unemployment? .Any ideas/suggestions? I am currently being treated for depression,.,could I use that documentation if i get fired?
I wish that I were kidding..but I am so depressed at my current job that I can't take it much longer.

Why not find a new job before leaving your current one? When you've got an interview, you can call in sick to your current job so you can go to the interview. If you do that too much, you might get fired anyways. But it's always best to have your next job lined up befor eleaving your current one. You'll lose your health insurance when you leave your job --you can pay for continuation of coverage from your current job, but that is expensive to do longtern. Best to have a job already lined up so you can get added to their health insurance within 3 - 6 months.

It's just hard with my commute to find another full time job. I get up at 6:00 am, and I don't get home until 6:30 in the evening. I have had a few interviews, but no offers yet. I am not really concerned about money. I have over one year's salary in the bank, and I can move back in with my parent's temporarily..I have no dependents and virtually no debt. I also wouldn't be afraid to take a part time job to supplement my income while I look for something more substantial. I just can't take another few months of commuting that far in the winter..I am going to go nuts..and it makes no sense for me to move closer if I hate my job that much.

Best way to get fired? I'm an expert at this!! haha... What do you do? need more info, then I could give you some good advice.

Well I told the boss what I thought about his Canned software package that he had paid so much money for (and it didn't work worth a tinkers dam)

An hour later I was kicking stones

Best way to get fired? I'm an expert at this!! haha... What do you do? need more info, then I could give you some good advice.
Well I am looking for a way to get fired so that I can still keep my elibility for unemployment. I am willing to do whatever it takes :) Any ideas or suggestions?

missing alot of work
but then I don't think you will be eligible for Unemployment benefits?

Do they know u have ADD? If not I would say u can really play off on your ADD traits. Be really disorganized, forget to turn things, forget to do things, attend meetings, all that stuff. Take full advantage of this gift u have been given. Play dumb.

I agree with Casper there, but also you can make alot of mistakes like me. I am on a 3 month probation period since I went perm (not talking about hair :D ) at the bank on October 4. If I don't improve, who knows what will happen. Also you can make alot of appointments like doctors, etc. I know they won't like it. I can tell my supervisor doesn't like for me to have many appointments but that is the decision of my doctor, not mine. I have to have several follow ups, so I know that the bank will not like that.

You have many options just don't resign. I don't think you can claim EI if you resign.

After speaking with your boss walk away muttering under your breath loud enough for him to hear...insubordinate, obnoxious jack***. See how far that gets ya.

I understand that you are miserable, but consider whether or not you will be working in a related field and what kind of reference you will get. Believe me companies are now talking and this prevented me from getting a good job just down the street from my house and the reasons were not ADD related, I just wouldn't take my place as the ever-obedient-abuse-me-whenever-you-like-redneck-worker-girl that many employers around here demand. This last company supported and therefore encouraged its female employees, all in menial positions, to scream and screech at each other like trash in a drunk tank, and when I talked to a company VP about it I was told his own secretary had to put up with it and that if I didn't like it I needed to find another job.

That said, if you are working for a more professional company than what I just described, if you can successfully pull off the ADD thing to the extreme you might get lucky and get your employer to give you a lay-off if they are basically nice people. My guess is that you are so miserable because they are not nice people and many of these companies are now fighting paying any unemployment benefits.

Maybe a part-time job and your parents house would give you a well needed rest and you can always sign up for some sort of classes that would explain your downtime on a resume.

Good Luck!!!

Doesn't matter how you get fired you can always collect unemployment. Sometimes there is a delay though if you did something really bad. Still after the delay you can collect. It's only if you quit that you can't collect. At least that's the way it is in NJ, might be different in other states.

Why not simply call the unemployment office and ask? You don't have to provide your real name. Make up a scenario and see if it will fly.

go to work 2 hours late, take 2 hours lunches, and leave 2 hours late.

Worked for me, and got unemployment soon after, but don't quit your job, I went unemployed for 2 years, I had money saved too, and that went quick.

Stick it out, and hunt for a new job while your still working. It's not the Economy we used to have, getting a job is rough out there.

T-Bass

easy, the reverse of what my dad and grandpa told me at 8th grade.

1.Be the last one there.

2.leave early for lunch.

3.come back last from lunch.

4.and leave early.

5.Talk politics and alot of Religion,preferably what ever is cross grain around there.

in 2 weeks top ,youll be asked to depart.

It's just hard with my commute to find another full time job. I get up at 6:00 am, and I don't get home until 6:30 in the evening. I have had a few interviews, but no offers yet. I am not really concerned about money. I have over one year's salary in the bank, and I can move back in with my parent's temporarily..I have no dependents and virtually no debt. I also wouldn't be afraid to take a part time job to supplement my income while I look for something more substantial. I just can't take another few months of commuting that far in the winter..I am going to go nuts..and it makes no sense for me to move closer if I hate my job that much.

As someone 1) fearing that I really *am* about to lose my job, 2) with debt that while not staggering, is still concerning and 3) with a wonderful 4-year old to support, I'm somewhat affronted that you would want to collect unemployment, if what you say about having over one year's salary in the bank is true. There are people out there who really are having a hard time finding jobs that need the money unemployment provides just to keep their electricity on.

That aside, I don't know how unemployment operates everywhere, but in MD, you need to show "proof" that you're looking for another job while you're on it. Being fired is also a cause for a delay in benefits; here, there's a 6-8 week "penalty" period attached to being fired.

Having never filed for it myself, again, I'm not 100% sure, but I do know that the guy I replaced back in March, who was rightfully fired (absenteeism, large cache of porn on company computer), filed for unemployment, and people in my company, including my supervisor, the COO, and the CEO were told they would have to attend a hearing to find out if he'd been wrongfully fired.

Well I remember pittguy mentioning feeling depressed in his original post and how the commute was draining him. It can be very difficult to function with a serious depression. I don't feel that people should continue to work until they have a complete breakdown but the system doesn't provide many interim steps. Between having a complete breakdown and going on social security disability and going on unemployment for awhile, I favor unemployment. This is more cost effective for everyone.

So the real question should be: Pittguy just how depressed are you? The most important thing is to safeguard you future. A gap in your resume can present a real problem to finding future employment.

tell me about it Coral Rhedd..I have some MAJOR gaps in employment and have to lie about working for a friend of my fathe'rs just to get interviews, etc...pretty sad!

Well I remember pittguy mentioning feeling depressed in his original post and how the commute was draining him. It can be very difficult to function with a serious depression. I don't feel that people should continue to work until they have a complete breakdown but the system doesn't provide many interim steps. Between having a complete breakdown and going on social security disability and going on unemployment for awhile, I favor unemployment. This is more cost effective for everyone.

So the real question should be: Pittguy just how depressed are you? The most important thing is to safeguard you future. A gap in your resume can present a real problem to finding future employment.

My depression has lifted slightly, but I am getting to the point where I just don't feel like going into work anymore. I just don't see the point. There is nothing at my current employer that I see myself doing. Most of the claim reps where I am working do not enjoy their jobs. A majority them have been doing the same job for 10 or more years..and aren't concerned about doing anything else.I was identified as gifted, and I graduated from college with high honors. I just feel like I am wasting my abilities and my time.

If I quit, I would be looking for another job and/or applying to grad school in the meantime. I have tried to look for a job while I have been working, but the commute makes it difficult to manage more than one lead at a time. I can't just keep taking off all of the time, and some employers aren't willing to stay after working hours to interview a candidate. I was considering working part time while I looked for something that I liked. I don't think I could sit back and milk unemployment. I would feel too guilty.

Pittguy, did you see the movie American Beauty? If so, you may remember that great scene where the main character blackmailed this boss for severance pay and then went to work at a burger place. You are really better off just doing whatever than being unemployed. Even if you are just doing volunteer work or selling Avon or mowing grass you will be better off if you keep working -- even parttime.

Also, don't ignore the possibility of self-employment. I remember when I first started interviewing again how that gap in my resume really hurt me. I remember more than one interviewer asked, "So what have you been doing the last five years?" I told them I was a stay at home mom. (Didn't tell them about the nervous breakdown.) Then they asked a technically illegal question (but I opened the door), "So how old is your daughter now?"

My reply, "Eighteen. I found that her teenage years were very challenging and she needed my attention then more than she did when she was a toddler."

Yeah right. They didn't buy it either.

One of the things I have done as an independent contractor is Job Development. I helped disabled people find jobs. I was an intermediary between the employers and folks who hadn't worked in a long time.

Employers are very suspicious. They check those references. They want to know about gaps. Employers can get away with a lot in the current job market and don't they know it! I remember going to Dairy Queen to pick up employment applications and there at the bottom of the application was handwritten: Have you missed work because of illness in the last year? This is an illegal question for disabled people because it demands disclosure. The manager didn't care when I pointed this out to him. "Tough. So sue me!" he said.

However, you know it's not really milking unemployment if you really need it.

Uh, what about just asking them to let you go? Explain that the commute is killing you and that you need the EI to look for another job closer to home. They can say on the release form that they no longer need you.
Or move closer to work?
Or be brave and live on your own savings? That way you have to find a new job and can't procrastinate until your claim is gone.
Just ideas.

Go back to school,

No better yet**** Run back to school**** starts Jan 18th

Hurry By summer you will be half way there.

Uh, what about just asking them to let you go? Explain that the commute is killing you and that you need the EI to look for another job closer to home. They can say on the release form that they no longer need you.
Or move closer to work?
Or be brave and live on your own savings? That way you have to find a new job and can't procrastinate until your claim is gone.
Just ideas.
I have thought about asking them to let me go, but I don't think that they would do tha

I would move closer to work, but it is more than the commute that is killing me. If I actually wanted to stay at my current employer, I would definitely do it. But I don't see the point of making a commitment if the chances are slim to none that I Will be there in six months.

Just wondering if u ever did check into the unemployment office thing? I know someone suggested calling them and making up a senario, it woulds like a good idea to me, and I am curious as to what the outcome was.

Go back to school,

No better yet**** Run back to school**** starts Jan 18th

Hurry By summer you will be half way there.
I am definitely considering doing that. I don't really care if I have to take a crappy job for now if it would enable me to have more free time to take classes.

Doesn't matter how you get fired you can always collect unemployment The only problem you might run into is that your employer might fight your applying for unemployment. If they don't, all is good. The majority of them don't have the time to fight it anyway. I collected for quite a few months, but my employer kicked me out the door like a wet dog (laid off). The state of MA decided that I wasn't needed to teach developmenatlly delayed adults anymore. They figured my paycheck was more important used for preventing terrorism. I laugh at that now seeing as though Massachusetts is the least prepared of all states. Hmmmm.... I wonder where my paycheck really went?

If you do manage to get fired and collect unemployment, don't sit on you butt and do nothing. I sat for a long time. Time that could have been used much more constructively. If you can manage not moving in with your folks, I suggest staying on your own. I don't know how old you are, but I would need responsiblity in my life in order to keep focused.

Now that I think about it, I was fired once. I had given my 2 week notice when I was mad. I managed to get the flu right after that, so they told me I no longer needed to come in. I should have gone in just to cough and sneeze on everyone else. :D I didn't even think about unemployment as I had another better job already set up.

I was let go because of medical reasons not compatible with my work (nurse stealing drugs) prior to my ADD diagnosis. I applied for unemployment, was turned down, appealled to a judge and won. :D

I'm currently in this position. I've been kicked around too many times, 13 years of everything I had to give has never and never will be good enough for my current employer who seems to feed of shift annimosity and almost encourages back stabbing and bullying in the work place. I can't function that way...if I don't like you, you know it up front I'm not going to tell everyone behind your back.

I still can't bring myself to be fired...I mean I've been there for 13 years and will be leaving with nothing but fired *shocked face* I don't think I have the guts to get myself fired. But, it's a nice thought *laughs*.

I'm applying right now and trying to line something up so I don't have to sit at home or I'll go nuts.

one good thing is talk politics with your boss and disagree with him even if you do agree because the thing is politics is a big problem it always starts an argument in some form and when you do not agree with him say something like i dont agree and call his coment stupid and idiotic that might work

Religion,and politics

both gauranteed to get a reaction,

some times good ,
most of the time bad.

these are both no no's for anyplace but behind the doors you pay for monthly.

Well, I can't tell you "how" but I can tell you what happened to me. I was very disorganized and easily forgot tasks, and at the time I couldn't tell you why. I was called to jury duty, and was gone about a week and a half. While I was gone, my boss had to do my job. When I came back, he said he had to make a change, and next thing you know, I'm umemployed. I had that job for 24 years. It's been hard for me to deal with it. But at least now I know what my "problem" is. And I am getting help. I sure hope to be back on my feet soon.

Well, I can't tell you "how" but I can tell you what happened to me. I was very disorganized and easily forgot tasks, and at the time I couldn't tell you why. I was called to jury duty, and was gone about a week and a half. While I was gone, my boss had to do my job. When I came back, he said he had to make a change, and next thing you know, I'm umemployed. I had that job for 24 years. It's been hard for me to deal with it. But at least now I know what my "problem" is. And I am getting help. I sure hope to be back on my feet soon.
He fired you after 24 years? He didn't even give you a second chance? :(

It was a "social" situation. I never fit in, but did my job and they couldn't hire anyone else for what they were paying me. His " gang" were by that time in charge, even if he didn't want to admit it. And beleive me, they worked hard to try an make me look bad for 5 years, but I was always there, while my home life suffered. But when I was gone for that week, they made sure that they got in his head. And pointed out every single thing wrong in their eyes. At that point, I was so tired of fighting that I didn't care. I have always needed structure at work, and when they bought the dealership, the structure went outt the window. You never knew who was in charge, and the managers, couldn't do a thing to change it. Half the employees showed up late, didn't give a rats a-- if the business made money, threats were common. Just a nightmare to deal with. I don't know if you can truly appreciate just how bad it was ther, and from what I hear from customers, still is.