View Full Version : Neurofeedback Used To Treat ADHD


Andrew
11-03-04, 07:13 PM
Turn to 10.com - Providence,RI,USA
The technology, which uses SMART brain games to change the brain, is also being used to treat depression, autism and anxiety. The ...
http://www.turnto10.com/healthcheck10/3888040/detail.html

Gregster
11-04-04, 02:32 AM
20 sessions (to start presumably) at $110 a session - sounds like a bargain to me, sign me up! I think I have an extra 2 grand in the cookie jar.
Honestly, do people who don't have insurance actually pony up 2G's for this kind of treatment? Are any studies that support the efficacy of such treatments - preferably from someone without a vested interest? I haven't heard of any.

exeter
11-04-04, 08:09 AM
I wonder if there are any studies showing the effectiveness of medications by someone without a vested interest.

Gregster
11-04-04, 11:07 AM
When you get right down to it, everyone has a vested interest. Clinical trials are not actually conducted by the drug company themselves, they are run by doctors in satellite offices all over the world, but ultimately the money comes from the drug companies.
But at least there are agencies like the FDA that regulate them.
Sorry if I sound like I don't believe in naturopathic medicine or treatments like neurofeedback, but I don't! I am sure that some people are helped by them, but I think that a lot of people are being frightened by biased news reports and such, into trying unproven treatments, sometimes at great expense. I wonder what the profit margin is on a 20min biofeedback session that costs $110 - probably much much higher than drug company margins.

exeter
11-04-04, 11:41 AM
I don't really put much stock in biofeedback either. :D I'm just exercising my ADDer tendency to be Devil's advocate. ;) At least biofeedback is safe, if not effective. It seems like if it were an effective treatment for anything, though, someone would put out a study... maybe manufacturers of biofeedback machines? :)

gingagirl
11-04-04, 06:22 PM
Actually, if you follow the link to the Neurodevelopment Center, there is a long article about all the various research that has demonstrated the effectiveness of neurofeedback. Unfortunately, it is a synopsis of various studies and doesn't provide enough details to determine whether the studies were scientifically sound. And they don't mention any research that failed to show success ...in real life, there are always studies that fail to demonstrate improvement so it seems dishonest not to mention some of the failed research studies.

I am skeptical of this sort of treatment, but I'm curious none-the-less. I'd be willing to participate in a study or pay a small amount of money to try the treatment ...but there's no way I'd do it for 2 grand!

neura
11-30-04, 12:04 PM
Has anybody tryed neurofeedback? I would be very grateful if people who have done it replied.

E-boy
01-03-05, 11:15 AM
I know people who have, or have used it with their children. I think with the available evidence that it shouldn't be touted as more than an "Alternative" treatment approach, but there is so much negative emotion associated with medication, inspite of it being the most successful treatment and recognized standard of care (and yes behavioral therapy should go hand in hand with it or you are only getting part of the benefit), that this treatment is getting a lot of "air time".

Most straight behavioral therapies boast about a 20% performance increase in patients. The main claim to fame of bio-feedback is that it "changes brain function". Not to burst their bubble but any consistent approach to behavior modification "changes your brain" in a very real physiological way. Only road testing and experience will tell if Bio-feedback is any different, but I suspect it's just a new approach to the same sort of behavioral therapy that has been in use. Most people that use behavioral therapy alone, particularly children, need to indulge in it constantly to maintain any kind of performance gain. The same, of course, is true of meds, but they generally give a 50 - 70% increase in performance when the doseage is right, and additional performance gains with successful behavioral management therapies. Naturally, I am firmly behind a combinination of meds and behavioral modification. It's just an opinion. I do base it on current findings, and should bio-feedback turn out to be substantially better I will endorse it whole heartedly. It's just that I was a chemistry/therapy experiment for two and a half years before I was finally diagnosed with ADHD and appropriately treated. So, I am loathe to endorese "alternative" therapies. Alternative therapies resulted in many extra years of suffering acute anxiety disorders for me. HEE HEE.

In fairness, I know many people who swear by them, and as a consequence I have to say, that you are your own best advocate. In the end it's you that decides what works best for you, and alternative therapies are often the only option for those traditional therapies don't work for. I guess it's all about folks getting the help they need, and more options is better.