How powerful of an effect do think tobacco has on your state of mind? I'm trying to convince myself to quit. I suspect it does a lot to limit the proper blood flow to my brain & while it doesn't really get you high, it does have an effect. Non smokers or folks who have quit then try a cigarette will get quite dizzy so probably as a regular smoker I'm also making myself pretty dizzy all the time, just that I'm used to it but it could really be having a big impact on my state of mind. OTOH, it's funny how AA people are famous for taking up smoking when they quit drinking & I think it's sort of accepted but is it really that different? Personally I don't get withdrawals but I guess I get anxious or edgy & pulling out a smoke is such a customary way of reliving that tension. It would be a huge change for me to quit smoking!

I just WISH I could quit smoking ....

I don't think that I can ... not until I pass this darn test.

Good luck to you.

But do you think it gives you foggy brain or is just a bad habit good for calming down?

bad habit good for calming down I guess ....
almost like a lesser form of adderall for me.

Smoking is bad for the health

Yada Yada Yada ...............

I smoke as it does the same for me as my dexadrine but I can control when I have a little hit as opposed to taking a dexxy and having a big hit that lasts 8 hours and has a terrible come down


I tried to quit and it caused such anxiety and stress that I looked at it and said Id rather smoke and enjoy what Life I can KNOWING FULL WELL that I may shorten my life but at least I can get some relief from now till I die.


My opinion for what its worth

Dr Amen says it causes brain damage & it's bad for your brain. I'd be curious if any ex smokers found their thinking clearer after quitting. I imagine it's not as clean as stimulant meds, though I can understand your point Garry.

I'm sure if I quit I'd have to make a lot of changes & probably would eat myself into a baloon to compensate. If I didn't smoke so much maybe it would be tolerable but I'm pretty much a chain smoker. I wonder if that's why stimulants didn't do any real magic for me because I'm already all drugged out on nicotine.

Aside from the physical addiction, it's just more to do with my hands and mouth. I've tried the patch, and it helps an awful lot. I just can't keep enough money to re-up when I need to. Coffee is also a problem for me, I need the stimulation. I switched to tea for almost a week, but I just "feel bad" all the time.
Yeah, the A.A. thing. Dumping the number one worst drug for the number 2 worst drug.
A.A. says to K.I.S.S., keep it simple stupid, and claims to be a simple program, and indeed it has set my mind up to comprehend the adhd issue. But adhd and the people with it are anything but simple.

I think everything is crisper now without smoking. I smoked like the proverbial chimmney for a long time. I deliberately did not make note of when I quit but it must be ten years or so now.

It sucks my strength and that's what I noticed most when I quit. I combined it with some exercise so I saw huge changes quite quickly.
ian

I just quit smoking successfully. I smoked for about 5 years. I've been smoke free for about 4 or 5 months.
I used wellbutrin to help me quit. It makes cigarettes taste bad. It works. Plus it calms you so your not having a nic fit all the time. And I had to remove myself when other people lit up around me. Also the after dinner cigarette was a hard one to get over. Whenever I eat a good meal I just want a good smoke after. But I realize now that there was nothing good about a cigarette after a meal it was simply bad habit. Also when I get really stressed out I have to deal with it in other ways.

I went back after two years off smokes.. be on guard.. :)

I am a chain smoker...there, I said it and someone else didn't. I hate it. It stinks and makes me stink. It gives me headaches. It sucks my energy reserves dry. It only makes me feel better if I haven't had one in a while and I am having a nic fit. Problem is, I don't need to be having a nic fit to light another, and one after that and one after that and...

I tried the patch and I was taking it off to smoke and putting it back on after I finished. My doc recently put me on Wellbutrin. I noticed the first couple of days that it wasn't such a HUGE need. I even told myself I would only smoke when I absolutely couldn't stand it anymore. Within a week, I guess my brain figured out I wasn't following my old routine and decided to force me to over compensate, because I am even more aware of when I "should be smoking".

I really want to quit, but do I? I sure don't act like it. I am so dependant on the stimulating effect of cigarettes and how the stimulant calms me down that I pick up my cigarette and light it while thinking of all the reasons I am going to quit SOMEDAY.

Welllll ... My quit day is Feb 2nd ... I am gearing up for it.

Please excuse me if I am cranky for a few days after the 2nd ... I will need to get it out of my system.

BTW ... I am going cold turkey. :) Wish me luck!!

*hugs*
Ane

I am so glad you have nailed it down to a date. That is the first step...one I haven't had the courage to make yet. The determination in your post tells me you can do it! Let us know how you are doing with it!

You can do it!!! I can do it, too...soon. If you need support, let me know. I will be your cheerleader!

I must have quit a million times. I had heard somewhere not to stop trying and that repeated attempts increased my chances of getting free of it.

I'm not sure how or why but it finally stuck and I stayed quit. I made no reference to the date, I suppose mostly because I didn't have any reason to believe I wasn't just going to pick it up again but I didn't.

Keep trying and don't stop trying. I believe that repeated attempts to quit helped a lot and taught me things about how it would play out when I quit making ever more familiar.

I will likely die from smoking. Many of my male relatives were ringers for throat, mouth and lung types of cancer. It helps me enjoy the days I have smoke free now and to take advantage of my ability to run!

I can hardly believe I'm running but I am, four times a week. It's a dream to be able to go 2.5 miles with a big smile on.
Much remains to be done.
Ian

repeated attempts do help, i believe. I think if i wanted to i could quit, I quit after i lost my job (i wont get started ranting about that, still bitter) just biined the backie, papers and lighter and walked out the front gate. Picked it up again when i ran into some cash, pack ran out, stopped again. Strange that, i was on 40 a day at one point, proly more. I guess coz i tried so many times ive learned copeing methods to deal with the withdrawrl symptoms. Ill proly quit proper at some point, i go back to it because i enjoy the actual act of smoking. The whole stress thing and that. I have concerns about my health over it, if i had the cash idd go get cat scanned, mabey thats my paranoya thing i seem to have though. Anywho, remember that if you relapse its not the end of the world, its just a part of quitting that some people suffer from, and some dont, that applies to most any substance.

Best of luck, dont resort to coffe or chocolate when you get a craving eather.

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Although grass has some benefits I think this topic has been well covered in other threads and posts. I came to the conclusion that it was a very complex compound and worked better for some than others.

You might want to do a search here to find others comments on grass. It continues to come up now and again.

Five or six joints a day is a habit in my humble opinion. A rather heavy one at that. I can't imagine smoking that much. I get high on so little it's silly.

I run, so that amount of smoke would feel like death to me. I tried a vaporizer which got around the problem of the smoke for the most part but it still had some side effects I didn't like.

My memory for instance was completely trashed.

I've read that historically grass has been used in situations where dull repetitive jobs often involving heavy labour were to be endured.

In my mind it makes too big a contrast to avoid between using dextroamphetamine and grass. The dex helps me be focused and sharp. Grass tends to make me scattered and dimmer than I'd like.

I'm loving being more on the ball all around. I think where the contrast would be displayed for everyone would be in conversations of any depth. If I have a correct dose of dex in my system I can often get off on a tangent to make a point and even more than one step away from the main thread of conversation and still tie things up back to the original idea to make it all come full circle.

When I smoke I'm lucky to come anywhere close to contributing anything coherent to an challenging conversation.

Sometimes I enjoy it for recreation and creativity but grass just muddies the waters for anything significant in my life.
Cheers! Ian.

im with ian, also, grass has left me with a paranoya complex which if not kept in check could well develop into paranoyed personality dissoder, or so i was told in hospital.