shadowboy
12-15-04, 01:47 PM
anyone here rehearse conversations on random topics to themselves?
sometimes i swear people must think i am schizophrenic. :o
sometimes i swear people must think i am schizophrenic. :o
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View Full Version : Conversations with self and Attention Deficit Disorder. shadowboy 12-15-04, 01:47 PM anyone here rehearse conversations on random topics to themselves? sometimes i swear people must think i am schizophrenic. :o Coral Rhedd 12-15-04, 01:51 PM All the time. I write fiction and find these conversations quite useful. I thought everyone had conversations in their heads. Sometimes I mutter around. A shrink asked me if these conversations seemed real to me. I certainly hope so. How else could I make dialogue believable. Rehearse? Half the time I don't have to rehearse. It just happens. So far I have no diagnosis for schizophrenia. RottweilerMom 12-15-04, 03:26 PM Me too...I'm always chatting away with myself when alone. Especially in the car...I do it more as a thinking things out. I call it "Thinking out loud" **grin** P_Stampy 12-15-04, 10:34 PM I never talk to myself out aloud, most of all, at work everyone else around me seems to do it.. half the time i dont know weather im meant to be listneing to them or not!! gypsysway 12-16-04, 03:41 AM All the time, I live there some days, but yeah, all the time, and I do talk out load to myself also, helps hold a train of thought better. :p exeter 12-16-04, 07:43 AM All the time. I write fiction and find these conversations quite useful. I thought everyone had conversations in their heads. Sometimes I mutter around. A shrink asked me if these conversations seemed real to me. I certainly hope so. How else could I make dialogue believable. Rehearse? Half the time I don't have to rehearse. It just happens. So far I have no diagnosis for schizophrenia. LOL. It's schizophrenia when you hear voices in your head that aren't your own. It's normal if you only hear your own voice. :D My advisor in college did this so much that if I went to see him in his office, I would have to look in the office to see if he was actually talking to anybody. People often heard him coming long before they saw him. AFAIK, nobody ever thought he was crazy, just a little odd, or, "just being Gene." Kimalimah 12-16-04, 07:55 AM I, too, am constantly talking to myself...sometimes out loud, sometimes not...I have never worried about it. If people want to think I'm crazy, I don't care. It helps me stay focused and that's the most important thing. Kim timh 12-16-04, 10:54 AM This would be a good poll. I too, rehearse out loud and to myself. I do it to prepare for a meeting. It a practice for possible scenarios. This way I have a better chance of not getting caught off gaurd. I do NOT hear voices that tell to do things. - Tim teddy 12-16-04, 11:04 AM *** This is ME.. I talk to myself out LOUD lots of time, at work; home ; whereever...I can concentrate better this way..think I'm crazy..i don't care what anybody thinks..it works for me:) Stuck 12-16-04, 11:21 AM Yes... I talk to myself, and rehearse conversations with others, all the time. I also review past conversations...rewind arguments...replay scenarios... This is one of the reasons I think I wear myself out before 10:00a in the morning, sometimes...I've done so much psychic exercise that I don't have anything left for what I have to face in the day ahead.... whiteraven 12-16-04, 12:50 PM Yeah. I ask myself questions, like, "Why am I here?", "You needed what?", "Where did I leave that...?" And then give myself directions like, "OK, go back and start again. Maybe it's come to you!" Works for me... Coral Rhedd 12-16-04, 09:57 PM LOL. It's schizophrenia when you hear voices in your head that aren't your own. It's normal if you only hear your own voice. :D My advisor in college did this so much that if I went to see him in his office, I would have to look in the office to see if he was actually talking to anybody. People often heard him coming long before they saw him. AFAIK, nobody ever thought he was crazy, just a little odd, or, "just being Gene." Yeah, but my voices talk to each other. They get in quarrels, they describe their surroundings, they make love -- but even better, they tell me what plot twists the story should take. They bad news is that they sometimes get mad when I try to edit them. They become convinced that the story is theirs and not mine. Where the hell do they get off? Don't they understand? I am God. I AM GOD! :D exeter 12-17-04, 12:47 PM Yeah, but my voices talk to each other. They get in quarrels, they describe their surroundings, they make love -- but even better, they tell me what plot twists the story should take. They bad news is that they sometimes get mad when I try to edit them. They become convinced that the story is theirs and not mine. Where the hell do they get off? Don't they understand? I am God. I AM GOD! :D LOL. Too funny. :) Crazygirl79 02-14-07, 03:47 AM I do that sometimes too gstien 02-14-07, 10:11 PM Oh well, count me in too. I do that at home, especially in the car. I can always claim I was on the phone, since it has a hands free phone built in. As for doing it at home, I usually talk to myself, with the Dingo in the room. She acts attentive, but never talks back. Now when my wife hears me, she always asks me who I'm talking to. She doesn't get it. I always have to make sure she's in the other room, or I have the dog with me. Otherwise she thinks my medication is causing it. LOL I have found it does make my line of thinking better. Like a second opinion, without someone arguing with you. Rev_kareline 02-15-07, 12:08 AM I don't talk/think out loud to myself very often, but there are times where I'll have the "whoa, WHAT?" moment and verbalize it... like when I looked at my car's odometer and saw that somehow I drove 100 miles in 7 minutes... When I'm doing word problems, or math problems, I sometimes need to talk it out before I can understand it. I guess it sort of helps me straighten it out in my head, since I have a million thoughts going on at the same time, speaking it singles out the problem and then I can solve it (usually, unless it's like... linear equations, those I'm bad at regardless). And I ALWAYS rehearse conversations in my head. Constantly. I'll think of a situation that I'm almost positive will come up, and I'll mentally prepare myself for what I'm going to say. Like once, I KNEW one of my peers was going to make a comment on something, so I had time to come up with my smart remark... it worked, too! I have pretty good judgment when it comes to stuff like that. Unfortunately, I'm an excellent liar... I've always been good at it, and can keep a straight, believable face through anything. I can predict what someone will think/say, and how they should react if I do this, look like this, say this, etc. So I'll prepare whatever it is I'm trying to hide or lie about beforehand. I used to skip class a lot (freshman year, so... 3 years ago, I'm a good kid now!), in fact... I skipped my gym class for a whole quarter, and I NEVER got in trouble for it, and also managed to get a C+ in the class. See, that takes skill :) meadd823 02-15-07, 04:52 AM I have found it does make my line of thinking better. I think it makes is better able to liner-ize our thinking. My opinion only though. jacinta 02-15-07, 05:45 AM Yeah, me too, I only do this sometimes, when I'm out walking by myself, eg. walking down the street, and in a world of my own..I sometimes realise my lips are moving and see someone sitting in a car who might have seen me 'talking to myself',l so I think 'I better pretend I was singing' - all the time keeping an eye out for doctors in white coats and ambulances... jacinta 02-15-07, 05:49 AM Hey, does anyone else 'create scenarios?' I do this sometimes when I can't sleep..you like ceate a drama usually involving yourself or someone you know so its not entirely fictional..I don't think I ever do it in daylight hours. lurker 02-15-07, 07:20 AM Hey, does anyone else 'create scenarios?' I do this sometimes when I can't sleep..you like ceate a drama usually involving yourself or someone you know so its not entirely fictional..I don't think I ever do it in daylight hours.I do that most hours of my waking life... does anyone smile to themselves while daydreaming? I've been told I do. mccinny 02-15-07, 01:10 PM You aren't alone. I have the weird habit of hyper-focusing on daydreams or when thinking about say, how I should play out a particular scenario. It's almost like being transported to that place. Everything around me melts away and I'm there. I can rationally come up with multiple responses to myself from the other person and many other things. It all sounds very cool but, the problem is I can't truly navigate myself through it. I don't exactly choose my response, their responses, so forth. I just think about it, and if I realize this I'm out of it suddenly. I can't seem to harness it well enough for it to be of any use. No doubt, I can do that but, how is the question. lanerebel 02-16-07, 01:34 PM And I ALWAYS rehearse conversations in my head. Constantly. I'll think of a situation that I'm almost positive will come up, and I'll mentally prepare myself for what I'm going to say. Like once, I KNEW one of my peers was going to make a comment on something, so I had time to come up with my smart remark... it worked, too! I have pretty good judgment when it comes to stuff like that. Unfortunately, I'm an excellent liar... I've always been good at it, and can keep a straight, believable face through anything. I can predict what someone will think/say, and how they should react if I do this, look like this, say this, etc. So I'll prepare whatever it is I'm trying to hide or lie about beforehand. I used to skip class a lot (freshman year, so... 3 years ago, I'm a good kid now!), in fact... I skipped my gym class for a whole quarter, and I NEVER got in trouble for it, and also managed to get a C+ in the class. See, that takes skill :) Wow, I almost thought I was writing that for a second:p it sounds so familiar! Anytime I'm about to have a conversation with someone I tend to rehearse it in my head, think of all the ways it could possibly go, and usually I'm fairly well prepared. This also helps me come up with responses quickly in impromptu conversations. You aren't alone. I have the weird habit of hyper-focusing on daydreams or when thinking about say, how I should play out a particular scenario. It's almost like being transported to that place. Everything around me melts away and I'm there. I can rationally come up with multiple responses to myself from the other person and many other things. It all sounds very cool but, the problem is I can't truly navigate myself through it. I don't exactly choose my response, their responses, so forth. I just think about it, and if I realize this I'm out of it suddenly. I can't seem to harness it well enough for it to be of any use. No doubt, I can do that but, how is the question. I daydream a lot too. I can really get into my daydreams, which tends to cause disappointment in reality. But it also helps with making my goals more real, since I can imagine very vividly a world where my goals have already come true. While I don't talk out loud to myself very often at all (although my ADHD dad is constantly reviewing his tasks out loud, no matter who's around), I am constantly having conversations in my head. If I need to decide how I feel about something, usually I have an argument in my mind about it; it's a full dialog back and forth. An example: Yesterday I was doing some laundry while my wife was at work. She has a sweater which says to "lay flat to dry". I pulled it out of the washer and threw it on top of the dryer while I moved all the other clothes from the washer to the dryer, meaning to flatten it when I was done. The thoughts in my head were: "You know, lay flat to dry doesn't mean just throw it on top of the dryer" "Hey, I'm still transferring clothes, I'll get it when I'm done!" Well, being the ADDer I am, I completely forgot about in about 10 seconds, and went back to work. When my wife got home later and looked in the laundry room and said (I swear I'm not making this up): "You know, lay flat to dry doesn't mean just throw it on top of the dryer" We had a good laugh after I told her what I was thinking when I did it, and then apologized for forgetting. So, long story short (although it's already long), yeah, I do it too:p . BananaSlip 02-16-07, 01:46 PM I tend to repeat previous conversations to myself, or I'll have pseudo-conversations with people that I wish I had the courage to go through. I've resolved a lot of hostile emotions this way! It helps me get out my anger and frustration so that when I run into that person, I end up speaking to them in a calm, rational manner. I play both parts quite well. I don't know why I do it. It just comes out reflexively, expecially when I'm stressed or agitated. allome 02-18-07, 03:21 PM Yes... I talk to myself, and rehearse conversations with others, all the time. I also review past conversations...rewind arguments...replay scenarios... This is one of the reasons I think I wear myself out before 10:00a in the morning, sometimes...I've done so much psychic exercise that I don't have anything left for what I have to face in the day ahead.... I do the same things...but i keep most of it in my head...only on occassion will i say it out loud justhope 02-18-07, 10:17 PM I think we talked about this somewhere on this forum before. I talk to myself all the time..and I answer myself too. I realize now that most of the time it's when I'm nervous, or upset. I use it as a tool to Pre-work out something that is perplexing me. I talk it through and look at is kind of like an out of body experience, and I ususally start out p*ssed off or crazy and talk myself down. There are times when I really think about things and voice them that they make me madder. Then I have to revert to counting to 10 or 5 million times so I don't say what I am really thinking in the tone I really might regret. But for the most part, I do use it as a tool to make sure I am working it out, looking at it from all angles and articulate it the way I mean to. QueensU_girl 02-18-07, 10:41 PM Having self=talk is good. Some people don't have it. As for myself, I could have written novels with my amount of self-talk and internal discourse and dialogue (analytical arguments with myself). Sometimes I just want quiet. Morbid Parable 02-19-07, 12:05 AM I talk to myself. I, on occasion answer myself. I don't think in words, so I talk my thoughts out when I am "dummed" down....I.E....DRUNK! Women have told me I talk to myself when wasted? Damn! maybe that is why I am still single? Proscrire 02-19-07, 12:58 AM Totally guilty. My husband does it too, only he doesn't know it. He thinks I'm listening. :P Morbid Parable 02-19-07, 01:38 AM Totally guilty. My husband does it too, only he doesn't know it. He thinks I'm listening. :PInteresting! I always feel like I have an audience when self-speak occurs? I never feel like I am talking to myself, I feel like I am talking to others. QueensU_girl 02-19-07, 12:23 PM Some ADHDers don't have that "internal voice" to monitor and guide themselves. I'd say we are lucky. <G> ------------------------------ re: Voice in Schizophrenia -- I understand that the problem is a neurological dysfunction in the Auditory Cortex. It is like a taped message that gets 'stuck' and perseveres in that brain region. (Groundhog Day!) The voices are heard as though they are coming from *outside* the person's head/ear, not from within their head/ear. The -=content=- of the auditory hallucination/experience is usually elaborately enhanced and contains details or implications which are known to be currently false or improbable (essentially 'nonsensical' given the current context of the auditory hallucination's message). re: voices However, it must be noted that the voices can contain delusionary material too, and persecutory or insulting tones, etc. However, the auditory message heard, tends to contain a SMALL grain of truth something the person has heard in the past. (e.g. a person who grew up with intensely 'God-fearing' parents may hear terrifying religious-themed voices warning of "the Devil", etc., when under stress, etc.) Another important point: Essentially, delusional and hallucinatory content is culturally bound, based on a person's earlier history, life themes (introjected by caregivers), conflicts or trauma. Consider the new male immigrant who has left a violent war-torn country and lived in refugee camps there. He has come to find his 'dream' in North America, only to find he faced intense racism here! Thus, he may develop the delusion that he "is a white man". I have heard of that happening a few times. Delusional Triggers and Contents: A person who is under attack/rejection/abandonment from important people in their life may sense they are being metaphorically & emotionally rejected/attacked and may think they are being 'poisoned' or 'made invisible' by another's 'powers', etc. (Psychoanalytic Theorists like Jacques Lacan would agree with parts of the metaphoric and emotional symbolism of the varieties of delusional content.) ----------- NB if i am not making sense, it's b/c i haven't dug my meds out of my purse yet. *dull thinking* |