I'm curious about this subject, as in "chit chat" forum, there is a section on the Myer's-Briggs personality tests, where INTP's appear to be coming in by droves, which does not add up with the statistics for the personality type itself.

I have pondered whether typical INTP or INFP behavior could be misdiagnosed as ADHD.

As an INTP this interests me. Is it possible that "normal" variations in personality could wrongly add up to a Dx of ADHD?

I'm trying to keep an open mind on this issue, but it is difficult to close off and pretend it isn't possible.

http://http://www.star.qmul.ac.uk/~rmh/addNP.html

i don't know, but it's an interesting point to raise. by the same token, isn't it curious how personality disorder symptoms often overlap with the symptoms of adhd? although i don't fully meet the criteria for any p.d., i do have traits of a couple.

i think personality and adhd are very much interwoven and in some cases, one in the same.

good observation.

It's more likely that ADHD is predispositional to an INTP personality type, or that the genetic configurations are similar for both...

i think the question you've raised is an important one, and my opinion is that it is certainly possible that based on personality traits, one could receive an incorrect diagnosis. i think it serves to underscore the importance of making sure you see a doc with good credentials and experience, so that you can be assured that he/she is aware of all the many aspects that need to be taken into account before declaring a person has adhd. the fact is, all human beings are different, and all of us have variations in our personalities. that some of those variations can be indicators of adhd in a person who truly has it is of note, but on the other hand the exact same characteristics can be found in a person who doesn't have adhd at all.

There is a forum for INTP's, but other types are welcome also.

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(http://www.INTPCentral.com)

Does anyone know if there is an INFP forum? I always test on the border between INFP and INTP. I think joining a forum of each would help me to figure out where I fit.

Regards,
Coral

I agree with Keith on this one, Viktoria. It also may be a bit of that old "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" I think it's always important to thoroughly evaluate each individual both physically and psychologically before giving out a definite diagnosis. If done properly I believe it is possible to determine whether one is dealing with ADHD or simply characteristics of ADHD.

My 2 cents!

Kim

Does anyone know if there is an INFP forum? I always test on the border between INFP and INTP. I think joining a forum of each would help me to figure out where I fit.

Regards,
Coral Here you go.

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We have a few INFP's on our forum, and they tell us that you can really see the difference between INTP's and INFP's when you just look at the different fora.

Other type fora:

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Swift

Does anyone know if there is an INFP forum? I always test on the border between INFP and INTP. I think joining a forum of each would help me to figure out where I fit.

Regards,
Coral
Coral, it has been questioned as to whether there is such a thing as an INXP, don't ask me where because I have forgotten. But there can be equal balance between F and P. You will usually find a preference for the "T" function, or the "F" function. I favor the "T". Not by choice, but by personality. I like INFP's very much, but I think we INTP's can "seem" too cool, and we aren't, our emotions are just intense and rather covered. :)

Viktoria

I'm also INFP!

Sometimes I also think that the "creative personality" is pretty much the same as ADD. But doesn't matter what you call it if the symptoms/traits are the same, right? I mean, you're not being misdiagnosed...your personality has just been pathologized.

I am INTP and my wife is INFP. We are both diagnosed ADD. Interesting observation!

Sorry to sound so dumb, but what is INTP and INFP?

http://www.advisorteam.com/temperament_sorter/register.asp

Crazymama05, try a test, and that will explain it all to you....probably more than you think :)

INTP=Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceptive. INFP=Introverted Intuitive Feeling Perceptive.

But you may get different letters like ESTJ. There is NO right or wrong letters, and they are all based on Carl Jungs theories of personality types, and how they differ.

Have fun, but answer the questions as objectively if you can.

Feel free to share if you like!

I hope that helps.
~Viktoria

Turns out I am an ESFP. Generally a fun seeking flake with no sense of direction, who thinks the whole world is a stage. Hee hee. I guess that kind of fits. Things get too serious I get uncomfortable. I am forever the optimist. And it explained how all these thought processes you all display here, the deep thought provoking kind of thinking, escapes me most of the time.......too heavy man!

And oh, the consequences of my actions.........ya I dont give that much thought most of the time either. Shooting from the hip, ya, thats me. I excel when things are chaotic. Except, i hate all the clutter in my house but it is too overwhelming to think about fixing it.

Ok, enough for now. I can be a bit of a chatterbox.........can you tell? :D

Oh ya, thanks Viktoria...for letting me in! (Insecurity still runs rampant with me on occasion)

Hey Crazymama, I love your humor:D:D ESFP's are fun loving ;) That's you!:D

You like me! you really really like me, you like meeeeeeeee!

Yes:D Hahahahhahahhaaha, is that so hard to imagine? ;)

No, not really. Actually, I was doing a Sally Field impersonation, from her ?EMMY? speech. LOL :D


Insecurity rearing its ugly head again............muahahahahah! ("Insecurity"' being the name of my evil twin!)

Oh no then I really need help. I am so damn insecure....worst self esteem ya can imagine. I sound alot like you crazymama reading your results. I

Oh no then I really need help. I am so damn insecure....worst self esteem ya can imagine. I sound alot like you crazymama reading your results. I
I...........
What happened Chris?? Did you forget what you were going to say? lol :D

I am rotating INFP and ENFP. N (intuition is the use of context to understand a situation as opposed to using "what people have told you") In my view of ADD, we are "internally referenced"... We never listened to what people have told us is reality AND we are contextual... The N is almost a given)

T and F are confusing for ADDers.. I think that our thinking is often driven by our feeling. P again... A sign of internal reference.

I and E... I think it depends on when you take the test. With other ADDers present, I am an E... With non-ADDers, I used to be an I. As I love myself more and understand that ADD is an important part of human nature... I am now much more often E around non-ADDers. This is interesting. All that respect I had craved from them comes in droves when I am in the E state. I forcefully express my ADDness with all of the humor and observation and I am treated quite well. They may talk about me behind my back... That is a good thing for I have provided them entertainment and the is one of my functions in human society. Since I connect with people on an individual basis... I know what is felt when talking with me... is the genuine and the behind the back talking is not.

I love my ADD and embrace it. ENFP :)

I just took another personality test and came out an ISFP. When I took the first one, my I and E were 50/50. But all the others were consistently definatively split. More like 70/30 or better. This is all pre-meds. Actually, still on anti-depressants. So I am curious as to how much, if at all, they will change when I am Effexor free, and maybe on an ADD medication.

I just took another personality test and came out an ISFP. When I took the first one, my I and E were 50/50. But all the others were consistently definatively split. More like 70/30 or better. This is all pre-meds. Actually, still on anti-depressants. So I am curious as to how much, if at all, they will change when I am Effexor free, and maybe on an ADD medication.
For me they changed when I moved off of prozac... ADs block out a lot of the things I love about my ADD... strange. I currently take Adderall but my personality does not change when I am off it... just my focus time lengths.

Guess what?... I have not been depressed since I went off the prozac :)

There is too much of an attempt to drug us because the "cranium drillers" think we are sick. We are just not hooked into the "feed" that tells people what to be. We are not hooked into "the Matrix".

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that my intuition was the main thing that was whacked on the prozac... My context building system was shorted out.... forced me to be linear but in a not so good way... kind of like having a chunk of my brain removed. Feeling got mucked too.

I am ENFP now. On the pzac I was ISJP <-> ESFP.

Interesting chain. The thing I have noticed the most is how much I want to isolate myself from the world. I didnt like to go out.....anywhere. Since lowering the dose of my effexor, (I am down to 12.5 now) I find myself back to wanting to interact with ppl, the world doesnt seem so bad anymore. The problem with it, is I have always been a "socail butterfly" enjoying the interaction with others. I am glad I am getting back to that. Just an observation I had to share that you brought to my attention with your post.

Interesting chain. The thing I have noticed the most is how much I want to isolate myself from the world. I didnt like to go out.....anywhere. Since lowering the dose of my effexor, (I am down to 12.5 now) I find myself back to wanting to interact with ppl, the world doesnt seem so bad anymore. The problem with it, is I have always been a "socail butterfly" enjoying the interaction with others. I am glad I am getting back to that. Just an observation I had to share that you brought to my attention with your post.
I feel that ADDers actually have a very different set of psychological issues than "normals" and most of them really have to do with not being in what I call "the positive state" of fully accepting yourself. That is a long path and the drugs get in the way... most doctors know nothing about ADD... and those that are experts... know even less because they have so many preconceptions. I see a lot of signs that we are entering a new view of ADD that will be helpfull.

The most important things are:

1. ADD is real
2. ADD is not a disorder

Chain,

Can you give me a brief synopsis of context building. This term is referred to often, and I am not sure I understand it. And if you could explain it as if I was four, that would be great too. (Not sure if this one is going to go over my head, or if maybe, my hair might catch it and reel it in. :D)