View Full Version : Adderall knocked me out like a sleeping pill. Anyone else have this happen?


Scooby Dude
01-26-13, 02:02 PM
So yesterday I decided to give my family (and myself) a break from my hyper-anxious rebounds. I also hoped, contrary to the med's indications, that I might fall asleep a little easier with the anxiety relief and mental calm it provides, despite the stimulant effect. But man not like this.

I went the day unmedicated, and took my daily pill (30 mg XR) at 4:10 pm. It usually gives my 5 excellent and 2 more good hours, so I figured I would give us all a nice night, then hit the hay 10:30-11:00 to beat the rebound and sleep it off.

About 7:00 I yawned, which I thought was odd. At 7:10, 3 hours to the minute after taking the pill, while sitting on the couch supervising my daughter playing, I just keeled over and fell asleep. Like my body was pouncing on its first chance at excellent sleep in forever.

The motion of crumpling over woke me up, and I forced myself back awake, as I was watching the toddler and all. It was a struggle, but I managed to stay alert and get her to bed, got a little dinner in me, by which time it was 9:30. This was about 5.5 hours after the pill, out of my excellent time and into the merely good. And I wasn't sleepy anymore. Tired, yes, but in that tired-and-wired way.

Fell asleep at 11:00 and slept pretty well.

Anyone else?

ana futura
01-26-13, 04:30 PM
I often take a low dose of ritalin to help myself sleep if I'm having trouble sleeping due to rebound anxiety.

When I was taking dexedrine, I would frequently wake up earlier than I wanted (as soon as the sun rose) so I got in the habit of taking a pill and laying back down. I could get in another couple hours of sleep this way.

It's a weird kind of sleep though- it shuts your brain down, but your body is awake- the exact opposite of how I usually am when I try to fall asleep.

I had to stop both of those habits, after a while it felt like sleeping on the pills was messing with me a bit.

Anyway, at the very least this kind of response leaves very little doubt that your diagnosis is correct, so congrats! ;)

starry
01-26-13, 04:36 PM
Could it be that you had just collapsed out of exhaustion, due to all the energy and trying to function on minimal sleep that goes into taking care of babies and/ toddlers? If you had been not getting enough sleep, night after night (having to wake up a few times at night for feedings/general care of the toddler as well as having to wake up too early since babies and toddlers wake up so early) for a certain amount of time, eventually the body will collapse and sleep through a hurricane if it has to, but it will get that much needed sleep finally and no amount of coffee or stims can keep you awake when that happens.

starry
01-26-13, 04:40 PM
The only time I got sleepy after taking Adderall was when I took the generic by Sandoz. Those pills put me to sleep and cause depression. Worst generic EVER.

Scooby Dude
01-26-13, 11:11 PM
Oh, it was certainly exhaustion.

I guess the issue is that I was sufficiently exhausted to drop out at a time and place not conducive to sleeping while on a fairly strong stimulant. Yet a couple of hours later, theoretically even more tired, and with less stimulant in my system, I'm not at all sleepy and have to force myself to sleep.

Wondering if anybody has had this, and if so what they did.

ana futura
01-26-13, 11:50 PM
Yet a couple of hours later, theoretically even more tired, and with less stimulant in my system, I'm not at all sleepy and have to force myself to sleep.

Wondering if anybody has had this, and if so what they did.

This is really typical. Forcing yourself to sleep may just be something you have to get used to. What happens to me is that after my meds wear off my brain is a chatty anxious mess and I can't sleep for anything.

It's because after the stimulant wears off your ADHD symptoms get worse- you "rebound". This is why I can sleep fine an hour after I take dexedrine, but 10 hours later forget it, I will be up all night. I had HORRIBLE rebound with vyvanse- I'd fall asleep fine, but then at 3 am I'd wake up with my brain having a very loud discussion with itself.

I don't know how to fix it, it's really hard. I could not get amphetamines to not mess with my sleep, so I switched to ritalin, which causes no sleep issues at all for me (and sometimes makes me sleepy)

Other than taking some other kind of drug- benadryl, melatonin, xanax- you're screwed.

What you really want to avoid is having the rebound be at its worst before bedtime. You can try to manage this by having your last dose early, say no later than noon.

If you can tolerate it, you can also take more amphetamines during the day. I know it sounds counter productive- but if you still have a fair amount in your system you might fall asleep easier.

ana futura
01-26-13, 11:56 PM
And just in case it didn't come across in my earlier post- it's really common for people with ADHD to fall asleep easily on stimulants.

We aren't like normal people. On stimulants our brains finally shut the eff up and it's just like "ah, peace at last". The physical stimulation doesn't even matter because having your brain finally turn off is so calming.

Scooby Dude
01-27-13, 12:09 AM
Interesting. Thanks for the info, guys.

Yeah, the first week I was taking the pill at 7 am, not feeling enough relief even on it (dont get me wrong- it was a lot of relief, but still not where it needs to be), rebounding at 2 pm, and falling asleep at 3-5 am. It was wicked. The problem is that the rebound was making me utterly intolerable to my family, so I went with the late med on Friday and had this thing surprise me.

Did you also have sleep issues before the meds? Or was it a rebound response you had not had before? I did have issues and saw a few sleep specialists in the year before my diagnosis. I like the way the meds make me around my family, and I already suspected they might help me sleep. If others sleep well on meds, well that's all to the good. Maybe evening meds will work nicely for me.

ana futura
01-27-13, 12:17 AM
I have delayed sleep onset. It's not a big issue unless I have a job that requires me to get up earlier than 9 am. My ideal sleep time off meds is probably 2:30am to 11:30am

I have a huge amount of trouble getting up in the morning and going to bed at night, I always have. Amphetamine rebound makes it much worse.

I really struggled with getting meds to match my schedule- I've always gotten a huge rush of energy at night, and that still happens on meds. In the end I just could not tolerate amphetamines - for a few different reasons, but sleep was a big one. I'd have to be on them all day long if I want to sleep okay, and I can't physically handle taking that much of them. Ritalin doesn't mess with my sleep at all.

Scooby Dude
01-27-13, 02:14 AM
Interesting again.

I've always gotten too little sleep. But never due to a burst of energy. just stayed up like a zombie. Like now.

What was it like for you when you were on meds all day?

SweetCode
01-27-13, 02:53 AM
Without meds I can go several days sleeping little time and after awake I will not feel sleepy during the whole day (unless it's an extreme situation like sleeping 2 hours/day for 5 days...).

I guess it's because stims make me able to stop the mind and then relax the only other thing able to knock me out (excl. meds.) is a traffic jam in the bus. (I don't get sleepy if it's moving...), for me sleeping is easy on stims, but after the effect wears off it's impossible!

ana futura
01-27-13, 03:46 AM
Interesting again.

I've always gotten too little sleep. But never due to a burst of energy. just stayed up like a zombie. Like now.

What was it like for you when you were on meds all day?

Weird, I didn't like it. I would take another dose to go to bed, but the sleep felt weird to me, and I felt drugged.