I was reading a few threads about body language. I've always been good at reading others in this way. I've always felt a bit physic...lol....My oldest daughter(13) says I creep her out. I will say something just before she was about to say it........

I tell my husband I know when he's up to something. He doesn't believe me ..lol.. I tell him it's a feeling I get in my gutt.... One time, I shocked him so badly by what I knew( he was doing something not cool). He asked me how I knew, he thought I was following him or something. I couldn't explain how I just knew.....

The thing I do the most and I try to keep my month shut, is to say what I think about someone. Can't tell ya how many times a new person would come around and I'd say to my husband or family " I don't know what it is, but I don't like that person"...
9 times out of 10, later I'll hear " wow you were so right about "........

Any other " mind readers" ? ;)

Yeah, I don't even question that feeling anymore. It's never been wrong. While I believe in psychic phenomena, (and am psychic) there is a scientific explanation for your skills, especially w your family;

I could predict and even guide my family into saying what I wanted them to say by discerning their motivations, ergo how they would react to statements, questions, etc.

I'd then show them the phrase or word I made them say written on a piece of paper. I stopped doing it because it would kinda freak them out, and also because no one likes to be predictable, manipulated, etc.

That is freaky .....lol...

Not a mind reader myself. But, I do have dreams that almost always come true. And I see spirits. Or at least what I think are spirits. Cause if they're not, than I am crazy as a loon.

I have the dream thing going on also, have for most of my life.


I don't see any spirits......

I can usually size up a person quickly....determine stuff about them not long after I have met them....I consider myself quite intuitive actually....(today in a short phone interview for a job -- I was asked what are my strengths....tough question....and I have to remember to say I am intuitive)

:D :cool: ;)

I agree JOAN !

Paula -- you are SOOO funny....with your faces and graphics and stuff...and I'm referring also to Word Associations "SCORE"...:) (tonight)

By the way, it's so hard to claim good stuff about ourselves, is it not? I mean in this thread Paula, you are basically asking us to claim our "good" stuff...that we are psychic, know what's going on...or are "with it"...are you not? Hard to say that to people....:(
that is, toot our own horns....

Originally posted by joanrdtobe
it's so hard to claim good stuff about ourselves, is it not? I mean in this thread Paula, you are basically asking us to claim our "good" stuff...that we are psychic, know what's going on...or are "with it"...are you not? Hard to say that to people....:(
that is, toot our own horns....

Joan :o I'm sorry some times I have trouble understanding what I'm reading....I'm embarrassed by not understanding but I don't want to just skip over your post.... :o

I'm just saying Paula that your thread topic brings up a great point....you talk about mind reading and understanding people and even knowing when your husband has been up to something...right? In other words we are very intuitive people... And these are GOOD traits...and I'm just saying in my post above here that it's hard to claim GOOD stuff in ourselves....that's all...and your thread basically asks us to do that!! Sometimes I write in ways that are hard to understand....no need for embarrassment:) COOL:)

Thanks Joan, that's what I thought you were trying to say but wasnt sure..... :cool:

Cool:) Ya know Paula....my hunch is that you are TONS smarter than you think you are....:)

I understand what your saying about reading someone

and I also envy the way you guys are talking in that I don't seem to have the same strength in this area that you guys are projecting

I am envious of you as what limited strengths I feel I have in what you are talking about is one of the very ADDvantageous that I truly enjoy about ADD

Its too bad that work gets in the way of life and that we all couldn't spend a vast amount of time together to learn about and understand each others strengths and weaknesses better

Grin you Know the (Hippy Commune thing again) grin

Or a mountain retreat (thats more elegant for this day and age):cool:

Well, I can't speak for the others Garry, but I'm fairly sure I honed my sensetivity to others due to my dad being an alcoholic ragehead. Never knew when he was going to fly off the handle, so you pay closer attention to keep out of his way when he seemed on edge...

So I guess it's one of those be careful what you wish for deals...

Same father history as Force....and same coping mechanisms as well...although it never occurred to me that constantly being on guard was one of the reasons I became so tuned in to others...the other thing is...I guess I always thought I had to really figure out (without really asking) what people wanted, how to make people like me, how to feel accepted, how to say the right thing, what the right thing was, what the right behavior was....and the only way to do this was to really tune into people very closely...and I became very good at this....it seemed the reasons were ones of survival...heck, if I wasn't liked, it felt like my world would cave in....

Very interesting !! My Dad drank when I was litttle, although I don't remember him doing so... My Dad left us when I was about 11 and he used drugs and didn't come around to see us much. My mother is and was emotionally distant. I never knew if I was loved by her or not....

Yuh the confusion....can be really painful.....do they "love" us or not? Especially when we are children....and especially with mother/daughter....that is rough....I mean a girl needs to know her mother loves her....so not knowing....:(

Ya !!!!!

I know my mom was raised the same cold why she raised me and my brother and sister.... I've not cont. the pattern ! and neither has my brother but my sister has....

Yes, my mother was treated terribly by her father....I know this for a fact....and made to feel "less than" all the time by her mom...so no wonder she couldn't teach us kids to love ourselves...(which is the ultimate job of a parent...to teach their kids to love themselves) since she never loved herself and probably still does not....but I'm glad you have not continued the pattern.....I am glad that the buck stoppped there ("there" being with your mom)....I'm sorry your sister has continued the pattern...hopefully it will work out for her kids despite this.....

Joan, do you now do things oppositely, as in screwing up in order to test people's love for you? I'm curious. I seem to do this myself, subconsciously, in spite of myself.

Question about reading others (intuition)--

Often I seem to know "what a person is all about" (either as a 'whole character' or at a specific point in time/after his/her certain action or actions) without the real words to describe what I know. It's like my understanding of them is a series of feelings or images, not really words.... Does that make sense? My apologies if y'all already covered this aspect of mind reading...I am notorious for not reading carefully the first time around. ;)

Also, not to butt in on your question to Joan, but I too find myself testing folks' love for me, Force.

and did you have a similar childhood smooch?

My father wasn't an alcoholic (that I know of), but he was a ragehead. His abuse was mental and emotional. Some examples...kicked a hole in a wall in front of me (10-11 yrs. old at the time), my older brother and my mother, yelling that it was either kick the wall or beat the s**t out of us--very terrifying for a hypersensitive little so-and-so like me. I think my brother and I had been fighting with each other or something. He also once shut himself in his office for three days straight, only coming out for the bathroom or to get food to take back in there with him.... I learned to sense his violent moods--violent meaning emanating all his anger at himself ("You're right. I'm the WORST father in the WHOLE WORLD!!!") and at life in general it seems.

The thing is, I know my ADHD came from him (he's still in denial), and looking back at my memories of him, it seems I understand why he acted the way he did. I feel I have forgiven him, although he and I have never sat down and discussed all the muck between us.

However, daddies are supposed to be examples of how men should treat women, and my father kind of mentally and emotionally abused all of us. Upon closer scrutiny (and a helluva lotta therapy!), I have determined that my habit of screwing up in relationships--family, romantic, or platonic--is often to prove the existence of love for me. Sick, but awareness is the first step. I no longer blame my father for this habit (nor for a bunch of other piles of my cr*p). I acknowledge and own my choices in my relationships. And, in fact, Dad's come a long way, thanks to his wife (both parents are remarried--they divorced when I was 24). She also believes he's ADHD, and we're trying to get him to open up to that fact so that he can get on a more positive journey....

I missed your "sorry to butt in" comment, or maybe you edited it in after I saw your post, but no, that's fine, I want as much info as I can get from people with the same problem(s) as me, and the positive ways they've dealt with it.

I feel that intuitiveness is one of the many gifts that ADD has given me. I don't know if it's something that I've learned over my lifetime to protect myself from hurtful people, or if it's something that I was born with.

I've always been able to very quickly know what a person's about. The strangest thing is that the people I meet who I can't "place" turn out to be the people with the most ADD characterics.

I creep people out with my predictions. Usually because my predictions are always for something negative. Examples of important ones:

1) My family enjoys quad riding. I'm never nervous or frightened. Two years ago, my husband was leaving for a ride and I had an impending sense of doom. I grabbed him and told him not to go. At the time, it would seem ridiculous to NOT go. (If you're familiar with all the 'prep work' involved before a ride, you'll understand.) He shook me off and told me he'd be fine. I begged him not to go. I even cried. He thought I was acting nuts. About two hours later, I was standing in the kitchen and I just FROZE. Couldn't move, and knew the phone would ring. Within minutes it did, and I jumped about a foot in the air. I almost didn't pick it up. My heart was pounding. It was my husband and he said he was being driven to the emergency room. He'd wrecked high up on a mountain and broken his collarbone.

2) One night while watching tv and I was suddenly gripped with an overwhelming sense of (again!) 'doom'. I had no idea what it was about or what it meant. I looked at the clock, it was exactly 9pm. I knew the phone would ring - it did not. I kept hearing it ring IN MY HEAD. But the phone never actually rang. I was expectant of 'something', I couldn't settle down, I was nervous and agitated. Nothing happened, so I finally mellowed out. The next morning I went in to work and when I checked my voicemail, there was a message left from aroun 11:00 pm the night before. It was a relative of one of my coworkers. He said he'd been told to call me, and was given my work number. His message was that my coworker had been in a car wreck. Someone had ran a red light and t-boned him. He was injured but alive and they were keeping him in the hospital overnight. He wouldn't be at work, thus the phone call to alert me. Here's the part you were waiting for...:p ...the accident happened at 9pm. Exactly when I felt it, and a call 'had' been meant for me, except it was at a different number.

Non-important predictions happen to me all the time too. Drives my husband nuts. I was standing in one of our three bathrooms and I suddenly looked up and said, "the fan is going to go out". The fan had not been on, we hadn't had any problems with the fan, and when he turned it on, it was fine. Three days later I hear him cuss from the bathroom. The fan had burned out. :D

Sorry to ramble, but I smiled when I saw this thread. Good to know I'm not alone...now, if I could only predict the lottery numbers...

I don't have the dream or predictions thing - mind reading hmm I have problems with reading my own some times -

For me when I read I feel the words and see the images some times even smell the smells and hear the sounds - I struggled with reading when I was young because I could neither pronounce or spell the words I read . . .yet I understood them on an extremely high level. My comprehension was off the charts.

I still spell very poorly {spell checkers} I often can not pronounce the words verbally but I understand them in way I do not think very many other people do. Your post are a 3D experience for me like thoughts frozen in time.

I can pick up things about people some times I think they call it aura – people have a vibration like an energy that surrounds their being Some people vibrations are more compatible with mine than others - I get impressions from these "vibes” .

With a some people I have been able to see the pictures inside their heads I have even been known to finish the descriptions - it doesn't happen with any one or every one just some people who seem to be on the same frequency I am, There are a rare few people I will completely sync with and it is instant and it is very real but extremely hard to explain
But it will happen with in them also, and we both know we know it is like being two separate individuals in one existence -

I do not think I mind read but I believe these exchanges to be perfectly normal and natural.

i just had to reply.

I am also plagued with this "intuition" the sort of extreme sensitivity to others feelings and thoughts.

But, I could, and, have driving myself insane questioning how realistic my thoughts, my "intuitions" really were/are.

Its hard when everyone you know, and "trust" tell you nah! you're wrong! or deny any accusations you might make.. even though your gut, your heart.. you inner something is screaming at you that they are in fact telling lies.

this is not a gift. This is a nightmare.

God forbid I do any recreational drugs such as, marijuana, because then my sensitivities become super hyper and I can not sit comfortably.... or be comfortable with myself or anyone that is around me.

I am forever perceiving them.

I cant stand it.

I hate it.

And, I cant trust it.

As much as I wish I could... everyone denies what I say as accurate. (ie. boyfriend) and yet.... they always remain.. tugging at my heart strings... stretching my limits..... pulling at my seams.

I have always been this way. Even when I was 5yrs old.. I just KNEW things about other people.

But, I never know if I am 100% right.... this is my madness.

I am forever perceiving them.

I cant stand it.

I hate it.

And, I cant trust it.

As much as I wish I could... everyone denies what I say as accurate. (ie. boyfriend) and yet.... they always remain.. tugging at my heart strings... stretching my limits..... pulling at my seams.

I have always been this way. Even when I was 5yrs old.. I just KNEW things about other people.

But, I never know if I am 100% right.... this is my madness.

This is why I remove toxic people from my life or distence myself as far as possible for as long as possible - the feelings the energy that sucks life out of every living thing around them like a black hole -

100% ???? It isn't a test we are not being graded - you do not have to be perfect. For those who are unable to comprehend it I simply find no reason to waste my time sharing with them. Why screw with their world?


Its hard when everyone you know, and "trust" tell you nah! you're wrong!

It helps to remember not all share the same reality - to them it doesn't exist but that is their reality it doesn't have to be yours -

look up Indigo Children (http://www.indigochild.com/)

look up Indigo Children


I really do not care for this kind of approach myself. I am not too sure how to take it and I really really try not to attribute to malice what can easily be explained by :foot: ADD!

Frankly

This is an old can of worms - so old it doesn't even catch fish any more. I will be so kind as to leave you a hyperlink to a post (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=323093&postcount=28) that addresses this ohh about about a year and a half ago.

The fact that this sensitive perception subject (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4124&page=1&pp=15) has been brought up several times over the years tells me that this set of ideas is not uncommon among ADDer neither are the experiences discussed in this thread. Heck for all I know even non-ADDer have these things happen. Ever see psychic detectives and such on TV what about that guy who speaks to those who have "passed" hmmmm John Edwards?

Personally I would much prefer those who did not relate simply said so because the Indigo children theory if actually read will reveal many of us are TOO OLD to fit the category yet these things still happen to us.


Some things simply can not be explained by science just as not all things are experienced by all people. Just because every one hasn't had these kind of experiences doesn't invalidate the experiences of those of us who have. I have never experienced male-hood so does it mean that male-hood couldn't possibley exist ?

I am more of an intuitive psycho analysis kind of person.
I don't get people when they're just conversating and stuff like that. But as soon as they talk about the trouble they migth be having with themselves or other people I just know what the issues are.
Usually go like "Aha, so when you did that thing, it made you think of those things, who where connected to that other thing you mentioned and then that would make you feel like this and that, cause they do put the current problem into a new place and that could make that and those fall apart, and blahblahblah"
Usually after that I get two big eyes staring at me, saying ether "Wow, thats it, thats whats going on!" or "thats just what my shrink said too".
I am pretty darn good at recognising mental mess, how and what leads to what. Ofc, not for myself. In my head everything is confusing. But I guess my monster mess makes it easier to understand other peoples mess.

Hmmm. Well I've just got to put my 2c in here since I've found that "mind reading", at least the type that I do, can be a two-edged sword.

I've always believed in psychic ability, and have had my share of premonitions. I no longer debate about where they are from or why - they just are, and I accept the fact that there is far more in the universe than I will ever know or understand.

All that aside...having grown up hyper-anxious in a disfunctional, alcoholic and hurtful home - it was essential to be able to read people as well as possible for survival. So, although it began with my parents, in school I found that other kids can be cruel and dangerous as well. Therefore, I came to believe that every human I came in contact with was a likely threat - and every sensor I had would be trained on those who were within a certain distance of me. I've always trusted the results of these sensors - or my "gut reaction" to people - and have used this all of my life to "protect myself" from people. And that's fine. I think that maybe all people do that...probably a good thing...but in my case there was/IS a malfunction. Like the robotic Santa on "Futurama" (is that reference too obscure?) my sensors tell me that everyone is bad. Everyone is a threat. No one can be trusted. All are guilty until proven innocent. And this is a problem. Perhaps you could call it a good and useful skill gone bad? I certainly am one for carrying things to extremes.

At any rate - this post caught my eye because my therapist used the actual words "mind-reading" to describe this one aspect of my negative thinking trap. I have always believed my gut reactions about people, and have never thought to challenge them. But when they tell me that everyone is mean and selfish and dangerous - - perhaps these gut reactions NEED challenging. I'm getting the idea that I may not always be right about people.

Wow, great post busyhermit. It almost seems like you are describing the emotional equivalent of a physical autoimmune disease.

How interesting...I grew up in an alcoholic home (father, nerotic mother) and became hyper vigilant at reading the situation.

I never knew if my pychic ability was a "gift" or came from my hypersensitive upbringing.

Just my opinion, but I don't think being hypervigilant is the same as being psychic. Or that a high degree of hyperviligance necessarily leads to, or is related to psychic abilities.

This is fascinating!

I was about to post on basically the same topic when I stumbled on this. Has anyone ever read The Indigo Children? It fits with everything you're saying.

Among other things, it says that ADD/ADHD is not a disease, but a natural part of evolution. The younger generation, and some older people, are part of the Indigo phenonimum (spelling?). Very psychic or intuitive, very gifted. VERY old souls. They're "older" than their parents, so they often try to play teacher, and resent - not authority necessarily - but being told what to do for absolutely no reason. How does anyone know for certian that one way is better than any other? After all, they've been here soooo many times already. Indigos are supposedly here to influence and change the world for the better.

You'd have to read the book get the whole jist. I don't have time (or room) to go into everything. But I worked in childcare and as a nanny for years before I got into my current field, and I agree with the book almost completely.

Personally, I have a great deal of psychic ability. I read and feel energy fields and sometimes see auras. Sounds nuts, but if I ask a friend who is also psychically gifted to move their energy, I can tell them where it's going. In other words, it's not just in my head. I also do Astrology charts and readings, and I read Tarot cards.

I'm also in a professional field, and if my co-workers read this, they WOULD think I'm nuts... :p

Just my opinion, but I don't think being hypervigilant is the same as being psychic. Or that a high degree of hyperviligance necessarily leads to, or is related to psychic abilities.
I think that everyone has psychic ability, some more developed that others.

I just wondered if the stress of being hypervigilant opens other doors psychically. It has been documented that people have become instantly intuitive after an accident or a very stressful situation.

I am extremely psychic and have been as long as I can remember.

I find when I am very stressed, experiencing extreme confusion, no focus and totally scattered, that I can read people's thoughts just walking by them. It is so draining.

If I am feeling balanced and in control, I have control over what I tune into.

I think you're right, complexnatural, that everyone has some degree of psychic ability. There is so much that science has yet to explain. After all, schizophrenia was once viewed as demon posession, and the brain was almost completely disregarded, with the belief that the heart controled body functions.

my mom's side of the family are like this. we will get bad feelings out of nowhere. my grandma insisted on calling to see if my grandpas blood sugar was checked, it wasn't and he had to go to the hospital. my great aunt was the same as my grandma in this way. she knew when members of the family were going to die. even random deaths like car wrecks.

me and my mom just get this sick queasy feeling when something bad is about to happen somewhere. my brother got testicular cancer and found out on wednesday. later me and mom were talking and we were both about to puke and in the bed tuesday before he had even mentioned it.

i had imaginary friends as a child i was told, but i remember seeing ghosts? not sure if i invented it in my mind or not.

I was about to post on basically the same topic when I stumbled on this. Has anyone ever read The Indigo Children? It fits with everything you're saying.


I find it a ploy to sell books myself.


I really do not need to read the book to know I disagree with their interpretation of an ability to sense other people's energy - if two people share in this ability then a mindful "connection" is possible This connection of the minds comes in various levels with some connections being stronger than others. There are those with whom I have connected so well that yes we conversed without the necessity of physical languages.

The Indigo children concept I do not agree on many levels beginning with restrictions in time tables. ADD traits and behaviors can be traced back by more that the generations born sense the 1970's - heck I was born well before 1970. I had a great aunt on my mother's side who also possessed this ability so powerfully it left an imprint on my grandfather who was a logical man and a scientist. She was dead before 1970. My younger sister who was born in 1970 is no more "capable" that I am and I was born in the 1960's {early part}

WHAT ARE INDIGO AND CRYSTAL CHILDREN AND ADULTS? (http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html)

The Indigo Children have been incarnating on the Earth for the last 100 years. The early Indigos were pioneers and wayshowers. After World War II, a significant number were born, and these are the Indigo adults of today. However, in the 1970s a major wave of Indigos was born, and so we have a whole generation of Indigos who are now in their late twenties and early thirties who are about to take their place as leaders in the world. Indigos continued to born up to about 2000, with increasing abilities and degrees of technological and creative sophistication.

The Crystal Children began to appear on the planet from about 2000, although some date them slightly earlier. These are extremely powerful children, whose main purpose is to take us to the next level in our evolution, and reveal to us our inner power and divinity. They function as a group consciousness rather than as individuals, and they live by the" Law of One" or Unity Consciousness. They are a powerful force for love and peace on the planet.


The Indigo children arrived with the key to multi-dimensionality. They were born into Third Dimensional bodies, but their consciousness was effectively in the Fourth Dimension and capable of moving into the Fifth. When this "wave" of Indigo consciousness arrived on the planet in the early 1970s, the way was opened for all humans and the planet itself to shift into the Fourth Dimension.

***End Quote

I don't buy reincarnation because mathematically it does not add up.

Their description does not jive with my personal experiences - for one thing ADD medications do not hinder abilities you either have them or you do not how ever ADD medication does decrease certain aspects of sensitivity - meaning I do not auto react. Some one is either on the same wave length or they are not - period. ADD medications allow me more control over that aspect of my conscious just as they do the other portions of my attention span.

I had a few "unexplained" incidents as a early teen - I understood some thing I could not communicate as a child.

My abilities did not decrease in adulthood as a matter of fact the opposite is true. I had such a large surge in my middle thirties I almost lost it totally - out of confusion. I had a second surge again pretty recently but the second time I knew what was happening therefor only appeared slightly strange - The second surge scared another adult who was experiencing connection for the first time but he got what I did not - some one who understood and wasn't afraid of putting it into words using a perspective he could relate to - the connection was soo strong every one knew the energy existed despite our best efforts not to make it obvious as failing to include others who do not "converse" n this manner is not kosher when in their presence.

About the only part they have right is the speed in which this happens - entire conversations that would take 30 minutes in words occur in a matter of seconds and there is no translation or further explanations required - this is communication not mind reading. Mind reading has the person whose mind is being read in a passive role and having no say as to weather or not they participate. A connection on the other hand is an equal form of communication where both parties have a say - either can make it stop at will A conscious of unity could not happen against even one members will so I do not read minds that would be intrusive - not to mention rude. . . I have seen the pictures in other people's head however only when they wanted me to. The crap in other people heads they wish to keep private should be allowed to remain as such - unless their thought are an immediate danger to me I have no business intruding. Communication requires all parties to be aware and willing this is how a unity in consciousness occurs.{without intrusion or force}

I believe a spiritual awareness is also required - how ever tarots or specific new age practices are not necessary - I have never practiced either or these things. The spiritual system I believe in call this phenomenon "walking in the same spirit" Due to guideline restrictions I will not elaborate except to say this ability resides in many "spiritual practices" commonly believed to be "too restrictive" to allow for such a thing - which is not true they actually have language that describes the experience extremely well which tells me previous generations have also experienced the same abilities or some thing similar.