A rarely heard solution for ADD/ADD is a special natural Amino Acid. This Amino Acid is found only in certain tea leaves. This supplement unlike others, calms WITHOUT making the person drowsy. It gives that perfect "calm + alert" mixture that almost mimics the feeling of prescription stimulants. Of course without all those nasty side effects of prescriptions.

So what is this supplement called? The supplement is called Suntheanine. Suntheanine is a patented pure form of L-theanine. Suntheanine is the purest most effective form of L-theanine.


In an experiment conducted by Hihehiko Yokogoshi, PhD and Takehiko Terashima, PhD at the Laboratory of Nutritional Biochemistry in Shizuoka, Japan, it was determined that dopamine concentrations in the brain, especially in the striatum, hypothalamus, and hippocampus increased significantly after the administration of L-Theanine. Dopamine, one of the brain’s neurotransmitters, is said to affect human emotion. L-Theanine also increases GABA levels in the brain which leads to a feeling of well-being.
Dopamine is the neurotransmitter targeted by ritalin and most other prescriptions for ADHD. Ritalin increases the amount of dopamine in the brain.

So what is this supplement called? The supplement is called Suntheanine. Suntheanine is a patented pure form of L-theanine. Suntheanine is the purest most effective form of L-theanine.

I see many products with theanine. It seems to be the new thing. The Suntheanine you are speaking of is patented by whom and in what country? Other than commercial links, what information can you offer on this?

Wow this sounds like a commercial....You wouldn't be selling this stuff now would you?

oops wrong post...

I'm not selling this stuff, I just want to help those with ADD. I'v tried it all and this stuff is the best.

Some more bits to my original post:

One dose lasts 8-10 hours, not bad for a supplement. Suntheanine directly causes alpha wave brain states. Alpha waves are those used for calmness while being alert (hypnosis, meditation).

The reason I stress "Suntheanine" over regular L-theanine is because Suntheanine is a pure form of L-theanine made by a company in Japan. Many products that claim to be L-theanine are just green tea extract which may not contain the potency and purity of Suntheanine. If you'd like, you can buy standard L-theanine from any company you choose, just incase you might think that i'm selling this which of course i'm not. I'm just a 19 year old wanting to help some.

So give us a link to some information on this

Here is a link to the info that bluelight21 is talking about.
http://www.nutriscienceusa.com/productinfo_123.htm

Please ignore this entire thread. I tried this supplement for the first time yesterday and it did NOT help with ADHD/ADD. It is best to check with your doctor for the best possible solution to your ADHD/ADD.

I hope I haven't disappointed anyone.

I should think twice before trusting anything on the internet. :mad:

I have no idea if these supplements do or don't work. From all the research that I have done on supplements the ones that have research to suggest they do work take a long time to actually work. It can take from 3 to 6 months for supplements like Omega-3 to actually work. Even if this did help with AD/HD it more than likely would not work in the 1st day like stimulant medications do.

L-theanine did nothing for my ADHD when I tried it years ago. I took up to 2 grams daily of suntheanine powder purchased from bulk nutrition. It did make me hornier and for a couple of hours relaxed me but I was still scatterbrained and impulsive.

"One dose lasts 8-10 hours, not bad for a supplement. Suntheanine directly causes alpha wave brain states. Alpha waves are those used for calmness while being alert (hypnosis, meditation). "

Since add people lack beta waves and have too much alpha/theta waves i suppose you have just ruined your ad? :D

What's the bias against drugs that draws people to these BS "Natural, drug free alternatives"? Don't want a product with too much research behind it? MAybe they think science is a bad thing? Are they sure doctors are full of it? Do they belive Pharmaceutical companies are really fronts for invading aliens who will use drugs to take over the Earth?

Anybody have any insight ito this? 'Cause it just makes no sense to me.

What's the bias against drugs that draws people to these BS "Natural, drug free alternatives"? Don't want a product with too much research behind it? MAybe they think science is a bad thing? Are they sure doctors are full of it? Do they belive Pharmaceutical companies are really fronts for invading aliens who will use drugs to take over the Earth?

Anybody have any insight ito this? 'Cause it just makes no sense to me.
I knew it! First they put something in the water that makes us act and think like we have ADHD....then they get us to take all of these different drugs that are actually a form of mind control device that will be turned on when they invade our planet and we will help them take over the Earth.......

Except their plan will backfire when we can't remember the landing coordinates! :faint:

P.S. There are supplements that DO help reduce the symptoms of ADHD.
Everyone should take care to NOT generalize their comments. There are just as many useful and useless meds on the market as there are supplements.
One doesn't reign over the other.....one just had a much better marketing vehicle than the other.

Thanks for the information. I don't know why some people get paranoid when it is offered. I am very interested in natural supplements or I wouldn't be here.images/icons/icon7.gif

I've posted on this before and will be glad to again.

Just because dopamine & norepinephrine are catecholamines does not mean that using amino acids to treat ADHD works.

It doesn't. Here's why:

On Sept 13th, I had the pleasure of being invited to hear a neurodevelopmental pediatrician from the Philadelphia area speak on ADHD.

Suffice to say, her resume was impressive.

She's a Diplomate of the American Board of Pediatrics and also a Diplomate in Neurodevelopmental Disabilities.

On top of that, she's trained with Joe Biederman, a world renowned ADHD researcher, at Harvard med school.

This exact question came up and here's what she said about it:

" L-DOPA (as a supplement/treatment for ADHD) does not work in the Mesocortical Pathway (of the brain)."

The Mesocortical Pathway essentially directs neurotransmitters where to go.

In other words, location is everything.

Unless it works in the correct area of the brain, it's meaningless.

In this case, it (L-DOPA) can't get there or doesn't work where it needs to to make a difference.

That was a brief summary and I hope that makes sense.

thanks
mctavish23 (Robert)

The track record of stimulant medications in treating ADHD is stellar.

Only Omega 3's have been shown to have some promise in helping ADHD.

Please ignore this entire thread. I tried this supplement for the first time yesterday and it did NOT help with ADHD/ADD. It is best to check with your doctor for the best possible solution to your ADHD/ADD.

I hope I haven't disappointed anyone.

I should think twice before trusting anything on the internet. :mad:

Your(yeah I know your long gone) actually making the same mistake twice. You over estimated the utility of L-theanine in general for ADHD from bad Internet information and then you may have underestimated its usefulness and made this post(possible more bad Internet information). Judging by the small number of L-theanine related posts/threads after this thread and the lukewarm reception they received I think its best I try to set the record straight.

L-theanine likely could improve visual-spatial working memory in those with high anxiety. Anxiety selectively impairs visual-spatial working memory. Anxiety disorders are highly comorbid with ADHD so presumably a large percent of ADHDers would see some benefit from L-theanine. Reducing anxiety also improves motivation. Stimulants usually have a GABA antagonistic effect that increases anxiety. Theanine is proven to antagonise caffeine's anxiety inducing effects. And possible from other stimulants to.

And don't be fooled by marketing hype of Suntheanine. Decaffeinated green tea is an equally effective source of L-theanine. The whole pure
L-theanine supply comes from: one its cheaper to synthesise than extract from tea and tea extract is bitter. Japanese put L-theanine in a lot products so having a bitter-free material is useful. That bitterness is likely tea's antioxidants though and not something you should avoid.

Personally I drink green tea and think it great. And I do not feel like a bunch of nerves as I would on coffee. Never tried decaffeinated green tea or in large doses though.

1: Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2008;17 Suppl 1:167-8.
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L-theanine, a natural constituent in tea, and its effect on mental state.
Nobre AC, Rao A, Owen GN.

Unilever Food and Health Research Institute, Olivier van Noortlaan 120, Postbus 114, 3130 AC Vlaardingen, The Netherlands.

Tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world after water. Tea is known to be a rich source of flavonoid antioxidants. However tea also contains a unique amino acid, L-theanine that may modulate aspects of brain function in humans. Evidence from human electroencephalograph (EEG) studies show that it has a direct effect on the brain (Juneja et al. Trends in Food Science & Tech 1999;10;199-204). L-theanine significantly increases activity in the alpha frequency band which indicates that it relaxes the mind without inducing drowsiness. However, this effect has only been established at higher doses than that typically found in a cup of black tea (approximately 20mg). The aim of the current research was to establish this effect at more realistic dietary levels. EEG was measured in healthy, young participants at baseline and 45, 60, 75, 90 and 105 minutes after ingestion of 50mg L-theanine (n=16) or placebo (n=19). Participants were resting with their eyes closed during EEG recording. There was a greater increase in alpha activity across time in the L-theanine condition (relative to placebo (p+0.05). A second study replicated this effect in participants engaged in passive activity. These data indicate that L-theanine, at realistic dietary levels, has a significant effect on the general state of mental alertness or arousal. Furthermore, alpha activity is known to play an important role in critical aspects of attention, and further research is therefore focussed on understanding the effect of L-theanine on attentional processes.

PMID: 18296328 [PubMed - in process]

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid%3A166635

That newspaper article confirms that L-theanine is not lost in the the decaffeination process.

I bought my son l-theanine, but I didn't notice that it helped him.

I do use all the time myself when I can't sleep. Normally if I drink wine I wake up around 2am and can't fall back to sleep until 4 ish.

Now I get up take my l-theanine and go back to sleep in less than half an hour.

I was with my nephew one night and he could not sleep. He was up until past 11:00 after a long day at the water park. My sister gave him half a dose, and he fell asleep the same. He is 14 and believes it helps him. He often does not believe things work, so it is unusual for him.

I also drink decafe coffee and every once in awhile they slip you the high test. So if I get the caffeine jitters I take it and they go away.

Any hoo I like to have it in my cabinet. I haven't lost a nights sleep in months. Maybe diffrent things work for diffrent folks.

I do get the suntheanine brand.