View Full Version : please help me, i snorted ritalin and now it doesn't work and i don't know what to do


sampson
08-29-13, 03:57 PM
i'm feeling really depressed and hopeless. please someone help me.

last month, i snorted ritalin a couple times, and now it lost its effectiveness. my doctor said that i "over blew brain circuits" and now ritalin won't ever work like its supposed to again.

if i try a different class of stimulants like adderall, will that work? or will stimulants never be able to help me because i abused ritalin.

i first started taking ritalin when i was 19, and it worked very well for me for about a month. at one point though, i started snorting it and taking higher doses then prescribed and eventually "burnt out" on it, meaning that my abuse ruined the beneficial effects. i tried dextroamphetamine next, and it worked, except that it caused post nasal drip, and after 3 months i stopped taking it.

about 1 year after i stopped taking ritalin, i tried again, at 5mg, and it worked like it did when i was 19. i must have lost my tolorance for it. for about 5 months it worked. 1 month ago, i decided that one day i would take my 3 daily doses of 5mg of ritalin by snorting it. i thought that because i was snorting only 5 mg, it wouldn't effect my tolorance to it. i was wrong, and now it stopped working as well as it did. my doctor told me that it "overblew circuits" and ritalin will now never help me as good as it once did. i tried asking him if i should try another different type of stimulant, but he didn't really answer and wants me to take a nonstimulent medication called strattera. I have tried another non stimulnet medication called intuitive when i was 18, and it didn't help me at all.


i feel like because i admitted i was abusing ritalin, and that i smoke pot, he sees me as a "risk" and wants to do what's safe for him and not what's best for me. honestly, i will never abuse my adhd medications again. i just want something to work so i can continue my life. otherwise i have problems with concentration, procrastination, socializing, etc.



what do i do. i want to try adderall or something else, not a non stimulent like strateera. i am very angry about doing this to myself and i will never do anything like this again. i just want to have a medication that works

sarahsweets
08-29-13, 08:25 PM
Because you smoke pot and snort ritalin you are a risk to him as a patient.

Fraser_0762
08-29-13, 08:31 PM
Have you ever stopped to think that if you didn't smoke pot, you wouldn't need stimulants to focus in the first place?

Snorting 15mgs of Ritalin as a 1 off will not make the medication permanently ineffective. Going off it for a while, then going back on it (and taking it as intended) will bring the benefits back again.

But honestly, if you're actually serious about being able to concentrate and getting your life in order, get off the Weed. It's one of the biggest causes off ADD-like symptoms. Smoking it on top of ADD is only going to make the symptoms worse.

Canadian Mess
08-29-13, 08:34 PM
I know it's a difficult thing to hear, but first and foremost you need to clean up your act.

You said that you'll never abuse the drug again, but you got to understand that your history with it says otherwise. I'm not sure why you would want to snort it if you just wanted it to work, but that's that. Your doctor sees your history with it, and he can't take the chance of you doing this again. Not only is it dangerous to you, but it puts his job at risk if he knows you abuse the drug and cannot be sure you won't do it again.

A lot of people take the non-stimulant ADHD drugs with success, so give it a chance. And the best way to give it a chance is if you stop the pot and snorting.... which may be extremely difficult if you are addicted, but not impossible.

Daydreamin22
08-29-13, 08:38 PM
you must be so annoyed. I wish I could give you a tactful answer, but know nothing about ritalin. : /... : )

Flory
08-29-13, 09:02 PM
If you think you're going to get adderall behaving like that with Ritalin your in for a nasty wake up call my friend because you know what drugs been in the news a heck of a lot lately as one of the most abused medications ? Adderall ....

You won't have blown any circuits and I'm starting to wonder if you're maybe someone that just abuses Ritalin.... You can certainly build up a tolerance but this is an issue addressed by dose tweaking and a qualified consultant that specialises in this sorta thing ...not ya know insufflating Ritalin ....maybe go for vyvanse it's almost completely abuse proof in that there would be zero effects if you snorted it and its LA release formula makes taking enough for a high a difficult task indeed ....

Stevuke79
08-29-13, 09:42 PM
Snorting Ritalin will not make it forever ineffective - unless you do it for a LONG time. Ritalin isn't meant to be snorted, it's worse than snorting speed.

Like everyone else said, clean up your act, get off the weed, see a new shrink, and that new doctor will have no trouble getting you on a working med again. (Unless you've been overdosing for a long time, .. Then maybe not)

sampson
08-29-13, 10:24 PM
i never knew snorting it would effect how it helped me with ADD when i took it normally. otherwise i would have never done it. i don't have addiction problems, and i don't smoke weed that often. i struggle with anxiety, which is mostly why i experiment with drugs. i've been seeing a consoler recently and have been working on reducing my anxiety.

i think i'll get a new doctor and not tell him about my history of abusing it. i think i'll say that i've been using ritalin for a long time, and it has never worked well enough for me, and that i'd like to try adderall.

but you are all right, recently i've been working on being a better person, because i really feel i'm not sometimes. i really need an ADD medication that works though because it really affects my life, i feel really groggy most of the time. btw it has nothing to do with pot, i only started smoking it this year.

@Fraser_0762 i stopped taking it 3 weeks, then started again, but it made no difference. how long do you think and do you have any sources for your opinion?

phantasm
08-29-13, 11:50 PM
It is trendy these days for some people to abuse stimulant medication for college or kicks and giggles. Doctors are super aware of that, and they think long and hard before giving out a script for these meds to people with past addiction issues. Your doctor is only calling it how he sees it. You have abused a drug that is not intended to be snorted. Why were you snorting it in the first place?

If you really want your ADD to go away, then take your docs advice and do a non-stimulant or something else you can't abuse.

Makes no sense, but good luck anyway.:scratch:

ana futura
08-30-13, 12:14 AM
I'm going to play devil's advocate for a minute-

15 mgs of Ritalin daily is a ridiculously low dose. It's possible the OP was not getting anywhere near the symptom relief he needed at that dose, and a combination of desperation and really poor judgment lead him to do this. Poor judgment being par for the course in people with ADHD.

If he had been on a proper dose to begin with maybe he wouldn't have tried to snort it. It's also possible he wouldn't still feel the need to smoke pot.
I would say there are a lot people who are on doses that are way too high, but your dose sounds far too low.

And your doctor is flat out lying to you. You did not "fry your brain circuits".

I would try finding another doctor who is more understanding of why you are driven to do these things in the first place.

ana futura
08-30-13, 12:15 AM
Ritalin isn't meant to be snorted, it's worse than snorting speed.

What do you mean by "worse"? I would assume that physically it's actually less damaging, no? Not that it makes it okay, but...

Daydreamin22
08-30-13, 12:19 AM
Ana, your avatar is about to blow. What is that?

ana futura
08-30-13, 12:20 AM
Ana, your avatar is about to blow. What is that?

Dalek- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek

Stevuke79
08-30-13, 12:44 AM
I have no personal experience, .. but I'm an obsessive guy on a class II narcotic so I read a lot to manage my anxiety about my meds. And you've just asked me a technical question in the wee hours of the night..l so I might get a little long... :)

Obviously speed is more dangerous, but as far as snorting/swallowing, ritalin has very little "snort benefit". So obviously snorting speed is worse,.. but if you have ritalin, why dont you just swallow it? Snorting Ritalin will burn your nostrils and will zombify you. it works by blocking the reputake of dopamine,.. So i wouldnt think the quick absorption would give you euphoria or anything good,.. More like hyper focus you. The high is nothing like a dopamine filled meth/speed high,.. And the crash will be abrupt and no fun at all.

D-meth (speed) will at least give you increased dopamine production, let you concentrate, euphoria, ... And while I don't advocate meth or speed, or snorting anything at all, I at least understand what could possess someone to snort speed.

Stevuke79
08-30-13, 12:45 AM
Ana, I have been wondering about that FOREVER!! Looks kind of interesting. My nephews are in to dr. who.

ana futura
08-30-13, 12:56 AM
Obviously speed is more dangerous, but as far as snorting/swallowing, ritalin has very little "snort benefit". So obviously snorting speed is worse,.. but if you have ritalin, why the phuq dont you just swallow it? Snorting Ritalin will burn your nostrils and will zombify you. it works by blocking the reputake of dopamine,.. So i wouldnt think the quick absorption would give you euphoria or anything good,.. More like hyper focus you. The high is nothing like a dopamine filled meth/speed high,.. And the crash will be abrupt and no fun at all.

D-meth (speed) will at least give you increased dopamine production, let you concentrate, euphoria, ... And while I don't advocate meth or speed, or snorting anything at all, I at least understand what could possess someone to snort speed.

Okay, thanks for explaining what you meant. I don't understand most drug use actually- when I have taken opiates for pain reduction they are just awful- it's a horrid, horrid feeling. I simply do not get why people like such things.

But for some reason, people like it. And they also like putting Ritalin into their noses- even though as you said from what I have read the crash is absolutely awful. Still, that doesn't seem to stop 'em.

There was rather crazy (and insightful) article I read on Ritalin abuse a while back- what the author would go through to get it was nuts.

All that said, in my completely unqualified opinion, Sampson doesn't really sound like an at risk patient to me. He tried it, was disappointed, and wants things back the way they are. Who among us has not done stupid crap and then regretted it?

Stevuke79
08-30-13, 01:05 AM
TriedStupidCrap could be the name of this forum... or my autobiography. I can relate to Sampson there. All I said was he should clean up, and a doc won't have a problem getting him well medicated. Orally this time,.. unless the doc prescribes Vicks. ;) (bustin your chops Sampson)

As far as sniffing Ritalin, I think for years people know: swallowing speed is good, sniff is better. Ritalin is the new speed... So it seems logical.

After all, you have moron celebrities and the media telling us that adderall and Ritalin are both speed.. So why not take them the same way. (So irritating when I hear that)

ana futura
08-30-13, 01:17 AM
Also Sampson before you bother with Strattera, (because it likely won't work) ask to be placed on Concerta- which is extended release Ritalin that is not abusable. Since this doc sounds like a tool, you will probably have to go elsewhere, but 36mg concerta would be what I would try next if I were in your position, just so I wouldn't be tempted.

daveddd
08-30-13, 06:27 AM
adderral are ritalin pretty much are speed unfortunate but true

they are abused for a reason , to catch a speed buzz


anyway, ive snorted quite a bit of things in my day

and adderrall still is effective for me

but you need to level your head before going back on them, if you havent yet

or you will just do the same thing

despite what is said, its been proven time and time again, no medication cures addiction on its own, maybe for awhile, but never alone

i dont care why youre doing it, everybody has a reason, and adhd is no different

arxonius
09-01-13, 03:38 AM
i'm feeling really depressed and hopeless. please someone help me.

last month, i snorted ritalin a couple times, and now it lost its effectiveness. my doctor said that i "over blew brain circuits" and now ritalin won't ever work like its supposed to again.

if i try a different class of stimulants like adderall, will that work? or will stimulants never be able to help me because i abused ritalin.

i first started taking ritalin when i was 19, and it worked very well for me for about a month. at one point though, i started snorting it and taking higher doses then prescribed and eventually "burnt out" on it, meaning that my abuse ruined the beneficial effects. i tried dextroamphetamine next, and it worked, except that it caused post nasal drip, and after 3 months i stopped taking it.

about 1 year after i stopped taking ritalin, i tried again, at 5mg, and it worked like it did when i was 19. i must have lost my tolorance for it. for about 5 months it worked. 1 month ago, i decided that one day i would take my 3 daily doses of 5mg of ritalin by snorting it. i thought that because i was snorting only 5 mg, it wouldn't effect my tolorance to it. i was wrong, and now it stopped working as well as it did. my doctor told me that it "overblew circuits" and ritalin will now never help me as good as it once did. i tried asking him if i should try another different type of stimulant, but he didn't really answer and wants me to take a nonstimulent medication called strattera. I have tried another non stimulnet medication called intuitive when i was 18, and it didn't help me at all.


i feel like because i admitted i was abusing ritalin, and that i smoke pot, he sees me as a "risk" and wants to do what's safe for him and not what's best for me. honestly, i will never abuse my adhd medications again. i just want something to work so i can continue my life. otherwise i have problems with concentration, procrastination, socializing, etc.



what do i do. i want to try adderall or something else, not a non stimulent like strateera. i am very angry about doing this to myself and i will never do anything like this again. i just want to have a medication that works

I think he sees whats safe AS whats best for you. Give the Stratera a try. Ive been considering something like that myself,but I cant risk changing medications. I really would prefer something persistent rather than the adderall that wears off all the time.

someothertime
09-01-13, 04:15 AM
1. Address your abusive behaviors or the reasons for them.

2. *if* you manage to get back on stims..... go easy on them will ya.... other than that non-stims for you.


Why do you think you felt it was ok to snort it?
What prevented you from discussing with your doc then?
Are meds the only thing your using to help?

sampson
09-01-13, 02:41 PM
i've also have had some ocd symptoms that i have struggled with, and snorting it, along with using other drugs, was part of me trying to self medicate it. but through consoling in the last month i think i have learned how to overcome it.

i don't know about stratera. i've tried another non stimulent "intuitive" and it didn't work. before i snorted ritalin, ritalin worked very well and i think i just need to find another stimulant.

@Stevuke79 also, snorting ritalin does give you a high, and it is like a speed. i know people from my high school who would stay up for days using adderall or ritalin.

@daveddd what did you snort, and how long after snorting the add medication if it was did you use adderall?

sampson
09-01-13, 10:37 PM
i found another psychiatrist but it won't be for 2 weeks. i honestly hate myself haha. btw, if anyone who has add is reading this, don't snort it it's not worth it, it's supposed to be a medication to help with your symptoms don't abuse it and only take it as prescribed okay )=

Daydreamin22
09-02-13, 03:24 PM
Dalek- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek

Oh Kewl. It reminded me of r2d2, except on fire.

by_design
09-02-13, 11:02 PM
The general rule when it comes to stimulants is you want them to get absorbed as slow as possible. Snorting Ritalin will just get your body working to build up a tolerance.. Now your has body has already learned how to build a tolerance to Ritalin fast,and that is going to take time for your body to unlearn.

sampson
09-03-13, 01:06 AM
The general rule when it comes to stimulants is you want them to get absorbed as slow as possible. Snorting Ritalin will just get your body working to build up a tolerance.. Now your has body has already learned how to build a tolerance to Ritalin fast,and that is going to take time for your body to unlearn.

Do you know how much time?

Will switching to another stimulant be a good idea?

please say what your sources are. i've asked pharmacist and my doctor and they don't know the answer.

dvdnvwls
09-03-13, 01:44 AM
Do you know how much time?

Will switching to another stimulant be a good idea?

please say what your sources are. i've asked pharmacist and my doctor and they don't know the answer.
Anybody who says they for sure know the answers to these questions is automatically wrong. It's a complex topic with a lot of variations. Another person's honest and true experience might be the opposite of what happens for you.

My answers, if they help you (and my sources are "The top of my head"...) : How much time? Probably depends how long you abused the drugs in the past, and how much you were taking. If you had a high-dosage long-term habit, maybe "forever".

Switching to a different stimulant? I don't think it matters much in an abuse context. Stimulant abuse is stimulant abuse, and these drugs are all similar enough. I know, I know, technically they work in very different ways etc - I don't care; I think heavy long-term stimulant abusers would be glad to take whatever they could get their hands on. If you're NOT abusing, then it matters what you take because one drug will probably help you much better than another. If you ARE abusing, then switching poisons is purely academic IMO.

sampson
09-03-13, 01:19 PM
Anybody who says they for sure know the answers to these questions is automatically wrong. It's a complex topic with a lot of variations. Another person's honest and true experience might be the opposite of what happens for you.

My answers, if they help you (and my sources are "The top of my head"...) : How much time? Probably depends how long you abused the drugs in the past, and how much you were taking. If you had a high-dosage long-term habit, maybe "forever".

Switching to a different stimulant? I don't think it matters much in an abuse context. Stimulant abuse is stimulant abuse, and these drugs are all similar enough. I know, I know, technically they work in very different ways etc - I don't care; I think heavy long-term stimulant abusers would be glad to take whatever they could get their hands on. If you're NOT abusing, then it matters what you take because one drug will probably help you much better than another. If you ARE abusing, then switching poisons is purely academic IMO.

for one day, i snorted 5 mg worth of ritalin 3 times, 3 or 4 hours apart. i'm not a long-term stimulant abuser.

i think you're right though. it varies so much from person to person, i think i just need to try something different.