View Full Version : Cocaine does not affect me....WHY?


ADDofftheWall
10-17-13, 09:31 PM
Over the past 2 years, I have done cocaine sporadically. I understand that it is a very serious drug. Many of my friends have become insanely addicted to it and have suffered consequences from the prolonged use. However, ironically I have not found the substance reinforcing in the least bit.

The first time I tried it, I did 7 lines all by myself and I felt....NOTHING. It's hard to describe, all the inner chatter in my head was momentarily silenced. I didn't get all jittery and jumpy. I did speak a little bit, but not fast like a meth addict. My friends who were with me did much less and were freaking out. One of them was walking up and down freaking out over his racing heart. I actually did not feel my heart race in the least bit. The whole crash that is associated with the drug...didn't happen. I woke up fine the next day. While my friends had splitting headaches and looked like death.


I thought it wasn't even cocaine. A few months later I did the same thing and I knew it was legit because it felt numb on my tongue. But once again I didn't feel anything. My head was very clear again.

Some of my friends have also pointed it out to me. They don't get how I have done so much so infrequently and not become addicted. My friend became hooked after just 2 tries and then went to rehab a year later.

I neglected to mention that i was prescribed stimulants during that time, but they were relatively weak to what I am prescribed now. In fact, the Ritalin that I was on during the first time was actually short acting (4-6 hours coverage max). My question is why did this happen? Is it normal for ADHD individuals to not be affected the same way as others with Cocaine?

The drug is a very serious problem. It's among the most commonly abused drugs in the world. Celebs like Robert Downey Jr. have experienced negative consequences on his career from the drug. I have no desire to seek it out or buy it by any means. Last weekend, it was all over the place and I felt no desire to even ask for a bump. Maybe it's a good thing that I will never find it reinforcing. Among all the problems I am dealing with, an addiction is the last thing that I need right now.

ronmexico
10-17-13, 11:28 PM
I tried cocaine once. I was left tapping my finger on a table the entire time. I was completely bored. I wanted the whole experience to end.

DichotOhMy
10-18-13, 03:20 AM
Just as street meth is similar to prescription amphetamines, when you put aside the dirty impurities and manufacturing processes that are sketchy as hell to say the best, street cocaine is pretty similar to methylphenidate in physical structure. In the simplest terms, cocaine and ritalin are both DNRIs, but cocaine is a more powerful and shorter acting one.

While I always reacted as you describe to cocaine as well, for me, cocaine also induces a powerful euphoria and boosted sense of "quiet" confidence that is dangerously addictive. Whether or not you think you can handle that, or even disagree that those rewarding effects happen to you, it's best to stay away from it entirely, because every addict starts as an occaisional/weekend user and no addict thinks they have a problem at first. ADHD has a way of gravitating us to substance abuse as an inherent thing, and there's absolutely no point to chance that cold hard fact if you are already prescribed ADHD meds.

ADDofftheWall
10-18-13, 08:15 AM
I agree with that to some extent. I understand what you mean by the whole "quiet confidence" but one would probably be able to attain that with an increased dosage of prescription stimulants and I imagine the effect would last much longer and be more potent.

ADHD is associated with substance abuse disorder from all different angles. However, I believe that individuals suffering from the disorders tend to gravitate towards Alcohol and Cigarettes as opposed to hardcore drugs like Crack and Meth. SUD is higher for those who remain untreated into adulthood.

mildadhd
10-18-13, 08:54 AM
The first time I tried it, I did 7 lines all by myself and I felt....NOTHING. It's hard to describe, all the inner chatter in my head was momentarily silenced. I didn't get all jittery and jumpy. I did speak a little bit, but not fast like a meth addict...


"Ritalin" is a very controlled dosage, if I take to much, I mess all the beneficial effects of the medication.

Cocaine eats away at the lining of peoples noses and other body parts.

I know a cocaine addict who has a hole in his nose.

I would think, what you call "all the inner chatter" that was "momentarily silenced", is the effects of the cocaine?

You did feel something, momentary silence.


Cocaine releases something like 300 times more dopamine in the brain, than food seeking.

Crystal meth releases something like 1000 times more dopamine in the brain.

A addiction specialist estimated that approx half crystal meth and cocaine addicts, where I live, are self medicating ADD.

There is a feeling of calmness for many people, its the side effects and uncontrollable dosage, etc, of sniffing or smoking cocaine, that make it so dangerous, in my opinion.










Peripherals

mildadhd
10-18-13, 09:09 AM
If there is 1 million people living in a city.

And if, 5 % to 10 % of the population has ADD.

That is approx, 50 thousand to 100 thousand ADDers, in that city.

Many of them struggle with ADDiction.

Eating, alcohol, coffee, cigarettes, shopping, sex, gambling, etc, also increase dopamine in the brain.




Peripheral

Stevuke79
10-18-13, 10:32 AM
From my experience with Adderall, the boosted sense of "quiet" confidence, is also accompanied by a sense of arrogance, which for me lead me to assume at first that the quiet confidence was really all me, not part of the drug,.. the drug just abated the anxiety so I could relax and function.

I was wrong. That feeling doesn't last after a while. I figured it out quickly and didn't chase that feeling when it left. Please, you shouldn't either

You need to focus on and accept the tolerance-resistant effects of the drug. Quiet confidence is one of the very non-tolerance-resistant effects of the drug (at least with Adderall - it's possible ritalin is completely different, .. but your feelings sound familiar to me).

ADDofftheWall
10-19-13, 08:10 PM
Just wondering....why did you stop taking the meds at age 9? Even though the effects are not desirable, usually physicians and psychologists recommend continuing till High School at the latest so that you can develop a structure and routine..and maybe continue after that without the medication.

However, I have noticed that some people don't like the way it makes them feel...especially if they are generally social and outgoing people who have jobs that require them to communicate with others and not sit at a desk from 9-4.

If I was not medicated....I probably would have gone insane.

Reekwind
10-23-13, 06:43 PM
Not getting the desired effect and getting no effect at all are two very different things. :)

When I've done coke I've mainly noticed that I FEEL more in comparison to that I usually function like a machine that just interprets information and tries to work out a sutiable way to respond.

I just go with the flow and words and thoughts just come naturally. Both my inner world and the outer seems to slow down and it is like everything falls in place and starts making sense. The usual distorted autonomous cognitive processes just subside and gets replaced by functional workings that just are, systems that work in silence.

Systems that doesn't insist on intruding and getting in the way of enjoying life.

I get so much more empathetic and socially intuitive on cocaine. I feel what to do, I feel social boundries, I feel cues and body language. I just understand! I FEEL! I feel what I want to do and why. It makes me able to reflect on the future and think of ways to accomplish things.

What I don't get is the aggresiveness and the hubris that some people experience. And I've never felt any restlessness. Never experienced a sense of "overdrive", like craving extreme stimulation or going out.

Just peace, clarity, emotional connection with life and a soothing fundamental security. When I've been on cocaine and MDMA are the only times that I've felt normal. I don't feel high, just normal and Feeling normal is the most satisfying thing I've ever experienced. That and it makes me sad and angry that I'll never ever feel normal for real, that's its always just a fleeting glimpse of what could have been.

Rebelyell
10-23-13, 08:22 PM
Never have tried cocaine nor have I had the opportunity nor do I want to.

Reekwind
10-23-13, 10:19 PM
Never have tried cocaine nor have I had the opportunity nor do I want to.

Sounds like an all in all safe and healthy approach! :)

sarahsweets
10-24-13, 04:49 AM
I tried cocaine once, and impulse move on my part. I am so glad it did nothing or I would have been f**ked.

Reekwind
10-24-13, 04:51 AM
How come you would have been ******?

sarahsweets
10-27-13, 07:34 AM
Addictive personality. If it feels good, I will do it to much.

How come you would have been ******?

Abi
10-27-13, 08:15 AM
Okay,

The Addiction and Substance Abuse section is for people struggling with (or who have struggled with) addictions to discuss their issues.

It is a not an "illegal drugs chit chat" for speculating as to why any given illegal drug may or may not have some or other effect on a given individual.

As such, thread is permanently closed.