View Full Version : Clicking in the library is so annoying... anyone relate?


hattz19
11-01-13, 06:38 PM
So I'm sitting in the library, and the 15mg Adderall IR has definitely kicked in. When it's quiet, I can focus. But anything, loud breathing, whispering, etc. throws me off. Specifically, I HATE mouse clicking. Clicks or pounding of computer mouses are insanely irritating. I feel like I'm a dog getting constantly shock, every click throws me off.

Is this a symptom of the ADD or something separate?

BellaVita
11-01-13, 07:04 PM
Clicking in general is very irritating to listen to....

MADD As A Hatte
11-01-13, 07:14 PM
So I'm sitting in the library, and the 15mg Adderall IR has definitely kicked in. When it's quiet, I can focus. But anything, loud breathing, whispering, etc. throws me off. Specifically, I HATE mouse clicking. Clicks or pounding of computer mouses are insanely irritating. I feel like I'm a dog getting constantly shock, every click throws me off.

Is this a symptom of the ADD or something separate?

Yep, that is an ADD symptom. I travel with earplugs. And if it's annoying enough, I move away and sit somewhere else.

And that person ... the one clicking, ticking, thumping the mouse, tapping their foot incessantly, flipping the pages of the book, etc. etc. ... is most likely an undiagnosed ADDer, so I try (in my thoughts) to be sympathetic.

After all, when our meds wear off, we are them!!

purpleToes
11-01-13, 08:58 PM
I had never heard of misophonia/selective sound sensitivity before until you posted about it in another thread. It sounds like a nasty thing to have to live with and I extend my sympathy!

I read some articles about it and it was very interesting (easy for me to say because I don't suffer from it). From reading about misophonia vs ADHD distractibility, an important difference seems to be that with misophonia, certain sounds are not merely distracting but intrusive to an extreme degree, even possibly painful. It seems like people can have misophonia and not have ADHD and it reminds me a lot of sensory processing disorder which is a seperate entity from ADHD.

Does the sound sensitivity change, better or worse, when you take Adderall?

Nicksgonefishin
11-02-13, 02:17 AM
Totally relate. I daydreamed about how I would dispose of the body once I had killed the man typing loudly at the library last month.

stef
11-02-13, 03:49 AM
i hate when its really quiet and my colleague and i are BOTH clicking, its sounds like we're trying to communicate in morse code or something.
loud typing=very annoying! is what youre typing that important? ??

otherwise clicking and typing dont bother me, its kind of soothing actually.
but a lot of people here are really sensitive to noise.

MADD As A Hatte
11-02-13, 04:55 AM
I had never heard of misophonia/selective sound sensitivity ...

With respect, most of us (ADDers) do NOT have misophonia. We have a heightened, but essentially low level, very annoying very distracting AWARENESS of perfectly normal human society every day noises.

The distraction is best treated, like all things ADHD, with a combination of medical and remedial strategies.

Medical: take your meds.

Remedial (non-medical): behavioural - go sit somewhere else before you shoot the mofo who is irritating you. (Nicksgonefishin, I'm with ya, bro.)

That said, I have recently moved house. I find I now have a cat bird living outside my window. At 4am it starts, and goes off every minute or so. It sounds like a baby having it's arms and legs ripped off. SHRIEKING doesn't begin to describe it. I have locked my darling Kitten, all-star cat, outside at night for the past week, without feeding him dinner, in the hope he will EAT THE PHUCKING CAT-BIRD. I'm sure there's some irony in a cat eating a cat-bird. Dr Seuss comes to mind.

This is NOT miso-soup-ophonia. This is perfectly normal human society irritation. Multiplied by my (early morning unmedicated) ADD intolerance. My yelling "SHUT UP" at the window at 5am is my unmedicated ADD impulsivity. [Refer the forum thread about swearing at inanimate objects.]

I generally get up about 6am in a total rage, stomp around, AAAUGH ... go to the loo ... and while I'm in the bathroom, I spy with my little eye something beginning with C ...

Concerta...

So I nonchalantly gargle my meds ... and ... ka-ching ... 15 minutes later ... cat bird? What cat bird? I rest my case.

Just in case you don't believe me ... we have sone WEIRD fauna in Australia ..


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJUdjFeQ4k&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DohJUdjFeQ4k

purpleToes
11-02-13, 07:28 AM
With respect, most of us (ADDers) do NOT have misophonia. We have a heightened, but essentially low level, very annoying very distracting AWARENESS of perfectly normal human society every day noises.

It sounds like you were about to disagree with me, but what you wrote agrees with everything I said (or I agree with everything you said, if you prefer!) But your post does highlight another difference, which is that the irritability and sound sensitivity such as you have, goes away with ADHD meds, whereas misophonia, I infer, does not respond to ADHD medication. I mean, if they were the same disorder, I'm sure that it would have taken about 1 day for psychiatrists to assume it was just another manifestation of ADHD, treat it accordingly, and voila, no separate disorder.

purpleToes
11-02-13, 07:39 AM
I just played the cat-bird video and wow that is an unpleasant sound! Even my cats seemed upset by it. I would LOVE to visit Australia someday to see its weird-*** alien life forms!

MADD As A Hatte
11-02-13, 08:15 AM
I just played the cat-bird video and wow that is an unpleasant sound! Even my cats seemed upset by it. I would LOVE to visit Australia someday to see its weird-*** alien life forms!

Just to confirm ... interesting as it is ... Misophonia is completely unrelated to ADHD.

And ... Yeah, the cat bird, my video, yikes!, what can one say?. Weird life forms in Australia are completely unrelated to being Australian. Or maybe not! I would have to defer to a poll of all the Yanks who have ever visited our island home, and analyse the responses! Laughing!

PS Note it is now 11:15pm, I have to do exam study tomorrow ... I am avoiding going to bed, to sleep ... because when I do ... inevitably, the next thing I shall hear is ... refer my cat bird video. Oh Lord, please have mercy on my soul!

daveddd
11-02-13, 09:48 AM
http://books.google.com/books?id=LQRUM5v_N1IC&pg=PA4&dq=1.2+prehistory+and+history+of+attention+deficit +hyperactivity+disorder&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BgJ1Ur-4FLWgsASD4YCgBw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=1.2%20prehistory%20and%20history%20of%20attentio n%20deficit%20hyperactivity%20disorder&f=false


i relate


alexender crichton wrote in the 1790s how the slightest noises and other things can irritate us

Drewbacca
11-02-13, 02:18 PM
One specific memory sticks out... I was trying to study in my college library in the beautiful cathedral like quiet room and there was on student maybe twenty feet away from me eating a bag of chips *crinkle* *Crinkle* *CRINKLE* MAKE IT STOP!!! I've since adopted sound canceling headphones and the playing of non distracting white noise when I want to read in a public place.

<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2985063118_8d3f07d710.jpg">

RicardoBogie
11-02-13, 03:18 PM
Is that picture your library ?

What a gorgeous place to be ! How inspiring !

Certain buildings can be so inspirational. For instance, I can't get enough of the Museum of Natural History in NYC.

If I want to study, I put on my IPOD to a certain section that has pink noise. At the library, I listen to pink noise while reading or studying. There can be as many as 30 students tapping away on laptops and it does not bother me at all.

In addition, I take short meditation breaks while it plays in the background.

hattz19
11-03-13, 04:59 AM
Yep, that is an ADD symptom. I travel with earplugs. And if it's annoying enough, I move away and sit somewhere else.

And that person ... the one clicking, ticking, thumping the mouse, tapping their foot incessantly, flipping the pages of the book, etc. etc. ... is most likely an undiagnosed ADDer, so I try (in my thoughts) to be sympathetic.

After all, when our meds wear off, we are them!!

Yeah, earplugs help when the meds work. Yesterday and for a few days the second dose always gave me unwelcome symptoms like blurry vision and a little shakiness, so I was worrying about that too and thus naturally unable to focus. When I first took 15mg IR back in July though, I remember sitting down, being annoyed for a little, then the sound went away and I was immersed in business law :)

hattz19
11-03-13, 05:03 AM
I had never heard of misophonia/selective sound sensitivity before until you posted about it in another thread. It sounds like a nasty thing to have to live with and I extend my sympathy!

I read some articles about it and it was very interesting (easy for me to say because I don't suffer from it). From reading about misophonia vs ADHD distractibility, an important difference seems to be that with misophonia, certain sounds are not merely distracting but intrusive to an extreme degree, even possibly painful. It seems like people can have misophonia and not have ADHD and it reminds me a lot of sensory processing disorder which is a seperate entity from ADHD.

Does the sound sensitivity change, better or worse, when you take Adderall?

Yeah I didn't think I had misophonia. Not painful at all. In a non-important situation (i.e. playing video games, watching tv, etc. the sound wouldn't have been annoying... or at least *as* annoying.

Sound sensitivity originally was 100x better. I remember this summer, when I was originally diagnosed, going to the library and sitting down, annoyed by this guy's constant typing and clicking. Then, 10 minutes later I completely forgot about it when I started reading. Was awesome, but then the 15 IR gave me a panic attack the next day, I stopped for the summer, titrated back up, and now it's giving me these awful side effects and panic attacks, so for now I'm titrating DOWN to get off of it and calling a psych on Monday since I'm out of state in CA and mine's is all the way back at home in PA.

hattz19
11-03-13, 05:08 AM
Totally relate. I daydreamed about how I would dispose of the body once I had killed the man typing loudly at the library last month.

HAHA. Man, I don't want to hate them- they're getting they're work done, I should love 'em! I don't get annoyed by or dislike people grunting or breathing loud at the gym, yet this happens in academic situations when I desire to tune everything else out but can't! At least to the level of everyone else. Talking to friends that go out partying and can still function completely, and even do better than me in school. It's hell.

Plus, I spend hours studying, get a good grade, i.e. a 96 on my last accounting exam, but still feel like I learned nothing since I cut corners to study anyway because I can't focus on/read the material to begin with. I'm considering majoring in accounting- how the hell am I supposed to declare if I have minimal applicable knowledge to show for it! Completely understand man.

hattz19
11-03-13, 05:15 AM
With respect, most of us (ADDers) do NOT have misophonia. We have a heightened, but essentially low level, very annoying very distracting AWARENESS of perfectly normal human society every day noises.

The distraction is best treated, like all things ADHD, with a combination of medical and remedial strategies.

Medical: take your meds.

Remedial (non-medical): behavioural - go sit somewhere else before you shoot the mofo who is irritating you. (Nicksgonefishin, I'm with ya, bro.)

That said, I have recently moved house. I find I now have a cat bird living outside my window. At 4am it starts, and goes off every minute or so. It sounds like a baby having it's arms and legs ripped off. SHRIEKING doesn't begin to describe it. I have locked my darling Kitten, all-star cat, outside at night for the past week, without feeding him dinner, in the hope he will EAT THE PHUCKING CAT-BIRD. I'm sure there's some irony in a cat eating a cat-bird. Dr Seuss comes to mind.

This is NOT miso-soup-ophonia. This is perfectly normal human society irritation. Multiplied by my (early morning unmedicated) ADD intolerance. My yelling "SHUT UP" at the window at 5am is my unmedicated ADD impulsivity. [Refer the forum thread about swearing at inanimate objects.]

I generally get up about 6am in a total rage, stomp around, AAAUGH ... go to the loo ... and while I'm in the bathroom, I spy with my little eye something beginning with C ...

Concerta...

So I nonchalantly gargle my meds ... and ... ka-ching ... 15 minutes later ... cat bird? What cat bird? I rest my case.

Just in case you don't believe me ... we have sone WEIRD fauna in Australia ..


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ohJUdjFeQ4k&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DohJUdjFeQ4k

I completely know what you mean. If I'm tired enough (when it's bed time) sounds are annoying but I don't get angrily irritated since I'll be going to bed. But at my apartment anywhere from 7 am-noon anything from leaf blowers and jackhammers can go off.

It's Northern California and these guys literally turn on their machines for an hour minimum to blow one leaf. ADD-itionally (see what I did there?), I live right next to the intersection of a main road and expressway entrance for the inflated Silicon Valley rent of $2k a month. No wonder this was the only unit available...

Ideally, I don't want to go deaf obviously, but when I study or need to study or focus I want to be able to tune other things out. In talking to friends 99% say they're able to do so. During spring quarter one of my friends brought his work over while the rest of us just talked loudly and watched YouTube videos. He got a lot of his work done- maybe he's an exception to even non-ADD'ers- but I would've done nothing in that situation but constantly look up. When I was hanging out with my cousin last year, I remember he studied for an exam while me and my other cousin just talked right behind him.

Obviously we're all different and certain situations are more ideal for specific things, and my examples of talking and videos can be distracting to anyone- but to the extent that a fridge, A/C, loud breathing, skint tv noise in the background, etc. distracts and agrivates you for a prolonged period of time? Not right. And that is one ANNOYING bird!

hattz19
11-03-13, 05:20 AM
One specific memory sticks out... I was trying to study in my college library in the beautiful cathedral like quiet room and there was on student maybe twenty feet away from me eating a bag of chips *crinkle* *Crinkle* *CRINKLE* MAKE IT STOP!!! I've since adopted sound canceling headphones and the playing of non distracting white noise when I want to read in a public place.

<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3068/2985063118_8d3f07d710.jpg">

I can completely relate. I bought some earplugs which work well, that alone won't aid focus though unless the meds kick in somewhat.

I listened to some study music to somewhat alleviate the sound of the clicking, but I couldn't make it loud enough to completely do so, since it would make everyone around me distracted while I tried not to be! And that is a nice library!

hattz19
11-03-13, 05:27 AM
i hate when its really quiet and my colleague and i are BOTH clicking, its sounds like we're trying to communicate in morse code or something.
loud typing=very annoying! is what youre typing that important? ??

otherwise clicking and typing dont bother me, its kind of soothing actually.
but a lot of people here are really sensitive to noise.

Haha, yeah I'd be distracted easily by that. I'm really sensitive to noise, so for me that mouse clicking or other distractions are like a shock collar. For instance, last week while trying to study (again in the quiet room), these two teens began whispering and laughing to one another while browsing Facebook- and I ended up learning more about their friend's homecoming dress than I did about the adjusting process in accounting.I hate it because no one else seems to be bothered (at least to my extent) while their noise takes over my work.

It's not motivation- I'm an insanely motivated and pretty positive person- but these types of things really interfere with your life and bring you down. People that spend 4-5 hours a day in the library shouldn't be leaving with the same amount of work to do that they entered in with! In all seriousness, though, that many times ends up being me, and it honestly sucks.

sarahsweets
11-03-13, 06:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1bgsvsWms

Drewbacca
11-03-13, 12:12 PM
Is that picture your library ?

What a gorgeous place to be ! How inspiring !


Yes, the main library at the University of Washington. It was an Olmsted Brothers design. Sadly, I only spent a year at that school before moving across country for various reasons. I should also note, as beautiful as the room was, I found a quiet corner on the 4th floor where no other students were around to be a much more productive place. I just went down to the big study room when I took a break.

This is the view from outside the front door, facing Mount Rainier.
<img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8743250800_d83c6f34ca_c.jpg">

ASTRONOMI
12-12-13, 05:10 PM
There is not much you can do about those nuisances,try putting on earphones to block out those noises and listen to something that will help you focus, for instance listening to ocean waves or something calming..

ginniebean
12-12-13, 05:29 PM
I am one of the nuisances. I click, tap, and rustle everything everywhere. It's called hyperactivity.

Not fun on this end either getting the dirty looks and being the bad guy.

someothertime
12-12-13, 05:50 PM
HAHAHA! Cool thread!

I'm a bit of both... all rustly ( IMO ) before settled ( where people are around mostly ) ... than when I'm in the zone not too bad... Yesterday there were 5 young ladies absolutely screaming for 30mins... Could not concentrate for more than 10secs... on anything... Kind if funny cause this was a lower socio economic neighbourhood and people are alot more tolerant there... as was I.... Then I moved or they left and lo and behold.... where do I end up.... next to the guy with the tiny laptop and fan like an A380....... constant...... high.....pitched.......WHINE! Got to me for 10min....... zoned out for 40min......... Got to me again for another 10.......

In the last 12 months i've "gently" asked a few tables full of high schoolers to take it to the playground... hehehe... good mindfullness practice! Let it go.... Let it go..... They are young..... they are young........ 30mins later..... Up I get.............. now though I make a genuine effort to be sincere and brief...... and directed at the instigator...... the last young guy had his shoes on the table.... Um.... I think I was actually not so polite with him..... wish I had controlled myself a bit better :o

But yeah.... in a quiet space if something is either constant or repetitive.... it will get to me.... most of the time.....

hattz19
01-15-14, 11:14 PM
HAHAHA! Cool thread!

I'm a bit of both... all rustly ( IMO ) before settled ( where people are around mostly ) ... than when I'm in the zone not too bad... Yesterday there were 5 young ladies absolutely screaming for 30mins... Could not concentrate for more than 10secs... on anything... Kind if funny cause this was a lower socio economic neighbourhood and people are alot more tolerant there... as was I.... Then I moved or they left and lo and behold.... where do I end up.... next to the guy with the tiny laptop and fan like an A380....... constant...... high.....pitched.......WHINE! Got to me for 10min....... zoned out for 40min......... Got to me again for another 10.......

In the last 12 months i've "gently" asked a few tables full of high schoolers to take it to the playground... hehehe... good mindfullness practice! Let it go.... Let it go..... They are young..... they are young........ 30mins later..... Up I get.............. now though I make a genuine effort to be sincere and brief...... and directed at the instigator...... the last young guy had his shoes on the table.... Um.... I think I was actually not so polite with him..... wish I had controlled myself a bit better :o

But yeah.... in a quiet space if something is either constant or repetitive.... it will get to me.... most of the time.....

Exactly, the thing is, I'm not looking for something that will make me hard of hearing. I'm looking for something that will allow me to focus and simply process excess sound as background noise, to dim the noise. When I first began Adderall IR, I took 15mg and the clicking noise from another person became insanely secondary. Now, all the med usually does is drive up anxiety or make me feel jittery...

lazymanthuggin
01-16-14, 07:37 PM
I use both earplugs and industrial strength earmuffs to block out ANY unwanted noise if I'm trying to get in the zone. Yeah, it looks somewhat ridiculous, but it's effective.

hattz19
01-27-14, 04:34 PM
For me it's not even earphones, if the med is working properly I'm able to tune out annoying noises almost instantly. Earphones, earplugs, etc. are an added bonus. In fact, on the med music annoys me but off of it I need music and I change songs every minute (ADHD)... So inconsistent!!!