View Full Version : Neurobehavioural effects of developmental toxicity


Kunga Dorji
03-21-14, 04:01 AM
An interesting link.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422%2813%2970278-3/abstract


Again the question of the apparent upsurge in diagnoses comes up.

sarek
03-21-14, 05:44 AM
Is there an open source link to the full original study?

This is very interesting information. I have begun looking into full body, heart and mind optimisation which includes looking into the effects of nutrition and pollutants on our various organs.

It turns out, for instance, that fluoride has a devastating effect on several areas of functioning, especially including the pineal gland.

Corina86
03-21-14, 06:29 AM
You can see the full text if you click "PDF" on the Article Options bar on the right. The study is a summary of different other studies from different countries regarding different substances.

Amtram
03-21-14, 02:32 PM
http://blog.americanchemistry.com/2014/02/authors-ignore-fundamental-principles-of-science-in-lancet-paper-opt-for-alarmism/

Amtram
03-21-14, 02:34 PM
http://www.science20.com/laura_plunkett/there_no_pandemic_chemicals_causing_brain_disorder s_children-129838

Amtram
03-21-14, 02:34 PM
http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/22728/

Corina86
03-24-14, 04:14 PM
I don't think we should dismiss the article so quickly. Doing research on this issue is kinda hard, since nobody can experiment on human embryos or babies and there probably aren't that many that get accidentally exposed to these kind of chemicals in high quantities either. More likely, they just get exposed to very small quantities for long periods of time- something which is also hard to study, since each and every baby born in this world is currently exposed to something. Yes, the article is inconclusive and saying someone has a disorder or another simply because mom didn't eat the right food is... silly. But you can't say that the changes in our food, water and air definitely didn't affect us anyone of us.

Amtram
03-25-14, 06:27 AM
Problem is that the authors are saying that specific chemicals that have been found to be neurotoxic at specific levels of exposure are causing problems now that they have been banned or removed from public exposure. If you were to put any of the named chemicals and their ppm in serum tests or environmental tests on an x-y axis graph along with incidence of ADHD, autism, or any other neurological diagnosis, you'd see a dramatic negative correlation. One would conclude from a good analysis that high levels of these chemicals prevent neurological disorders.

Kunga Dorji
03-26-14, 09:45 AM
. Yes, the article is inconclusive and saying someone has a disorder or another simply because mom didn't eat the right food is... silly.


Now the catch is that the charge that is made "that the authors of articles like this are saying that someone has a particular disorder SIMPLY because mum didnt eat the right food is silly"
Is flawed on 2 grounds- firstly few authors claim single factor causation.

Often when people call out an article like this with that sort of comment what turns out is that the issue is a projection of the critic- or a sign of the critic's attention deficit.

Secondly- there are definite correlations between diet and disorders in the infant.(It is not a good idea to be in early pregnancy as a Muslim woman during Ramadan- if you are well away from the equator and Ramadan falls in summer).
In that case the increased rate of birth issues is proven.