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ruby.149.42
07-01-14, 02:07 AM
Not sure if this is the right place to put so feel free to move. I've been doing a few Coursera / MOOC courses of late and started this one the other day which looks really promising for spreading the word of the "light side":

https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld (https://www.coursera.org/course/changetheworld)

It's a free online course looking at major challenges the world is currently facing and inspiring people to get active and look at what we can individually and collectively do about them.
Currently 20,000 people signed up. Hoo-rah.

Course Syllabus
What are Social Goods? What is the Commons?
Poverty and Development
Climate Change and Sustainability
Disease and Global Health Care
Women, Education and Social Change


Go Bilbo.

SB_UK
07-01-14, 06:29 AM
definitely with convergence

[server rooms protected]
-> wireless connection ->
holographic projectors either local eg phone, keyboard/screen in office, large screen at home ie 1 projector with power modes low to high which projects a keyboard and screen of differing qualities.

So - all human beings require for access to all others, all information, all images, all music - from telephone to tv - is only 1 small box containing a (holographic/3d) projector containing an integrated battery/wireless card.

Therafter all we need is a few veggies, a pair of pants (with a pocket for the projector) and shoes with replaceable soles.
Veggies regenerate, pants last for ever and we just have to take a hit on shoes every few years and strip/replace the soles with some biodegradable alternative.

Mind you Mowgli went shoe-less ... ... maybe ???
Bilbo too.

Go Mowgli.

SB_UK
07-01-14, 06:54 AM
No fridge, no bookcase, no radio, no pen, no car, no speakers, no toothpaste, no lawyers, no nuclear power, no work, no money, no banks, no clocks, no personal ownership of anything we can't all have, no drugs whether pharma or illegal, nothing that at worst can't re-enter natural recycling schemes, no jewellery, no stupif fashion label or perfume houses ... ...

just bilbo's village + mowgli's natural world fit over the fattest wireless bandwidth pipe imaginable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

Discard bilbo's ring / mowgli's snake.

One story.

SB_UK
07-01-14, 07:04 AM
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Beware addiction !

SB_UK
07-01-14, 08:06 AM
Kaa breaks down the wall of the building in which Mowgli is imprisoned and uses his serpentine hypnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis) to draw the monkeys toward his waiting jaws. Bagheera and Baloo are also hypnotized, but Mowgli is immune because he is human, and breaks the spell on his friends.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaa

Or in plain English - when/if we attain wisdom we become properly human and are freed from the mesmerising effects of addiction to money/power.

We're not human and are animals until completion of mind / wisdom and are then freed from material world attachment.

In that position of self-realization, by practice of knowledge and renunciation in devotional service, one sees everything in the right(true) perspective; s/he becomes indifferent [not indifferent but not dependent upon (in the unpleasant sense of dependence to heroin ie to the detriment of individual/species)] to material existence... ...

What's dependence on material world mean and how can we see its expression in those who have not yet attained wisdom ?

It's attachment to anything divisive ie label religion 1 - other religions bad, label football team 1 - other football teams bad, label job - other jobs bad ie it's a partitioning within the mind through labels into good and bad.
Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Snake - and we're back to the mesmerising effects of the snake on Mowgli.

Properly human escapes the allure.

Money (power) (ie material world human inequality) is bad.
Quality world inequality ie great technologists (particularly in information tech), great musicians (uploading their music in high fidelity to the Internet), great sculptors (in sustainable materials), great (organic vegan) cooks, great (natural) gardeners however is to be sought - since the world benefits from 'quality' (just not material) world extremes of 'inequality'.

We can't support Kings, Queens, CEOs, Prime Ministers, Judge/lawyers on our shoulders - they're too heavy to hold in place - eat too much.

SB_UK
07-01-14, 09:47 AM
Technology to help save the world?Take home message.

It's good to talk to everyone in the world simultaneously.

Technology permits that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be9GLngXyw0

And what do we talk about as soon as we stop killing each other ?

How to make our whole once in a lifetime few years (for a limited time only) lifespans FUN FUN FUN 4 ALL ?

Firstly by killing money - the rest will follow naturally as long as we remove the heroin from the potential (ah - too late!) addict.

ruby.149.42
07-02-14, 04:15 AM
and shoes with replaceable soles.
Veggies regenerate, pants last for ever and we just have to take a hit on shoes every few years and strip/replace the soles with some biodegradable alternative.

Mind you Mowgli went shoe-less ... ... maybe ???
Bilbo too.


Bilbo indeed went unshod and like all good Aussies who spend 10 months of the years without shoes, had leathery soles protecting his feet.



Unshod =




Correct spinal alignment (when I lived in London I walked into an osteopath's office and he gave me a round of applause when I walked down his hall because he reckoned he could tell in an instant a person who had grown up wearing shoes and one who hadn't (most hot climate kids) just by our gait which was much better aligned (apparently).



Connection with earth and energy. KD's been mentioned Earthing offline and has probably mentioned it somewhere else in these forums.

ruby.149.42
07-02-14, 04:19 AM
No fridge, no bookcase, no radio, no pen, no car, no speakers, no toothpaste, no lawyers, no nuclear power, no work, no money, no banks, no clocks, no personal ownership of anything we can't all have, no drugs whether pharma or illegal, nothing that at worst can't re-enter natural recycling schemes, no jewellery, no stupif fashion label or perfume houses ... ...

.. no plastic surgery, no luxury goods companies, no MBA's, no management consultants, no Barbies, Bratz and Monster High dolls ..

.. and on and on and on ..

SB_UK
07-02-14, 04:25 AM
.. no plastic surgery, no luxury goods companies, no MBA's, no management consultants, no Barbies, Bratz and Monster High dolls ..

.. and on and on and on ..


You understand ! :)

ruby.149.42
07-02-14, 04:25 AM
What's dependence on material world mean and how can we see its expression in those who have not yet attained wisdom ?

It's attachment to anything divisive ie label religion 1 - other religions bad, label football team 1 - other football teams bad, label job - other jobs bad ie it's a partitioning within the mind through labels into good and bad.
Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.


.. the switch from ME to ALL
.. from hedonia to eudaimonia

How? Fundamentally overhaul the way we educate children away from current competitive, ME ME ME pedagogy to system aware, perspective aware US (as collective noun, not USA) with strong build of inner contemplative awareness

SB_UK
07-02-14, 04:27 AM
Bilbo indeed went unshod and like all good Aussies who spend 10 months of the years without shoes, had leathery soles protecting his feet.



Unshod =




Correct spinal alignment (when I lived in London I walked into an osteopath's office and he gave me a round of applause when I walked down his hall because he reckoned he could tell in an instant a person who had grown up wearing shoes and one who hadn't (most hot climate kids) just by our gait which was much better aligned (apparently).



Connection with earth and energy. KD's been mentioned Earthing offline and has probably mentioned it somewhere else in these forums.



Yes - I agree.

Currently investigating whether the current we field relates to body fat level with fat being a strong electrical resistor.
Theory being tested is that fat level associates with inflammation.

ruby.149.42
07-02-14, 04:40 AM
Take home message.

It's good to talk to everyone in the world simultaneously.

Technology permits that.


Interesting video and I love Stephen's optimism because there is potentially lots of good from technology (which is why I love this MOOC course) ..

BUT question is how to leapfrog the "light side" (Bilbo) past Sauron which at this point in time is a BIG ask (and the question often keeps me awake at night). Multi billions + billions industries frying people's brains further over to the "dark side" - eros and thanatos (the p**n and VVG industries). Monkey brains naturally pulled in this direction, pull children in this direction while their poor little brains are wiring up. How do we upsell the Save The World MOOC?? Lots of MBA's to fight and nasty big corporates.

SB_UK
07-02-14, 08:47 AM
.. the switch from ME to ALL
.. from hedonia to eudaimonia

How? Fundamentally overhaul the way we educate children away from current competitive, ME ME ME pedagogy to system aware, perspective aware US (as collective noun, not USA) with strong build of inner contemplative awareness
:goodpost:



Exactly.

ruby.149.42
07-02-14, 09:49 PM
.. Monkey brains naturally pulled in this direction, pull children in this direction while their poor little brains are wiring up.

.. pretty much every day there's a new headline which makes me want to thump my forehead on my desk. This morning :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/punch-4-punch-blamed-for-killing-23yearold-tommy-main-20140703-zsu4q.html

..

SB_UK
07-03-14, 02:52 AM
.. pretty much every day there's a new headline which makes me want to thump my forehead on my desk. This morning :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/punch-4-punch-blamed-for-killing-23yearold-tommy-main-20140703-zsu4q.html

..

Last month it was neknominate.

The things people do when a personal enquiry and application of morality can set you free - development of social mindedness as the path to endpoint of mind.
The mind isn't simply logic - it's a logical structure which is built with the interests of man (survival of the species) as its prime directive.
There is no mindedness - only social mindedness until the mind completes (wisdom) and we're no longer 'materially'-driven (incarcerated) animals.
Properly human.

Won't want to repeatedly hit yourself - surely all people remember Mohammed Ali's fall to Parkinson's disease ... ... and not drinking oneself into a frenzy - death to alcoholism/liver damage isn't pleasant.
Woman (30's) here broke her neck falling down the stairs drunk.

Complete madness.

SB_UK
07-03-14, 02:59 AM
WikiP is impressive.

Dementia pugilistica (DP) is a neurodegenerative disease with features of dementia that may affect amateur or professional boxers, wrestlers as well as athletes in other sports who suffer concussions.

ruby.149.42
07-03-14, 10:21 PM
The things people do when a personal enquiry and application of morality can set you free - development of social mindedness as the path to endpoint of mind.

Easy to say from where we sit. Question is whether we leave the horse to find the water and I reckon that these kind of crazy crazes mean we're in trouble if we do.

This (http://www.investigatinghealthyminds.org/pdfs/Kindness%20Curriculum%20Study.pdf) kind of thing gives me hope.

SB_UK
07-05-14, 02:19 AM
I think that as long as we have a transition which leads to morality in adulthood that we'll be fine.
Children can be an awfully selfish lot.
Am I expecting a full on genuinely moral child - No !
Lisa Simpson can be copied but will perfect moral behaviour come from the heart ?
Don't think so.

I think the best that we can do is to frame a form of education which helps children to know what is right and what is wrong for themselves - and play their cards right and come proper adulthood (wisdom) - they'll be free from addictive propensity and happy moral (fixedly) creatures.

So - more to divert the child away from anti-social pursuits which addict ... ... than to expect genuinely moral behaviour from the outset.

Examples - ditch money so all children have the same (no more - 'but all of my friends have one!' and no more toxic foods) ... ... mind you ditching money will correct these and all other downstream problems.
Who'd get personal reward from killing the next generation ?

We're in the middle of many celebrities being sent prison for child abuse.

Fast food, sugar carbonated beverages, cigarette manufacturers, alcohol manufacturers etc etc are all guilty of child abuse also.

Kill money and allow people to develop mind of morality (knowing what's right and what's wrong) - and the problem goes away.

ruby.149.42
07-10-14, 11:00 PM
I think that as long as we have a transition which leads to morality in adulthood that we'll be fine.
Children can be an awfully selfish lot.
Am I expecting a full on genuinely moral child - No !


Been meaning to get back to this one but have been away.

A genuinely moral child? [Sigh] - I tried hard, but then she started preschool (even a Steiner one) and it all when pear-shaped. Or maybe not pear-shaped but we're currently living in the world of "IwantIwantIwantIwantIwant) and I'm having to breathe very deeply.

I am all ears to hear about the transition into moral adulthood which your words make sound as though is a given and it sure the hell 'aint as we both know.

I reckon Vygotsky was more on the money in terms of trajectory of child dev i.e., culture influences dev of cognition / social context has profound influence on how children's logical processing unfolds. Piagetians etc reckon it's some sort of linear path but it's just not the case - you've only got to look at how a herding nomad e.g., categorises things / constructs process cf a kid that is handed an arbitrary rule at school. Cultural context our kids are growing up in as poisonous and only the strongest will be able to swim to the top of the swamp and actually see what's going on.

I think the best that we can do is to frame a form of education which helps children to know what is right and what is wrong for themselves - and play their cards right and come proper adulthood (wisdom) - they'll be free from addictive propensity and happy moral (fixedly) creatures.

So - more to divert the child away from anti-social pursuits which addict ... ... than to expect genuinely moral behaviour from the outset.


I'm loving the sound of that form of education .. what sort of school do your kids go to?

But regardless of schooling, what about culture outside of school? Does a kid who sits and plays GTA5* and CoD 6 hrs/day come out at the other end prepped for an quick jump into "moral adulhood"? I think we can dispense with the "they'll all turn into school shooters" argument, but there's plenty of compelling evidence saying that there are lots of LT negative effects e.g., increased hostile attribution bias and reduced empathy being my key concerns that are going to be detracting from a sudden attainment at adulthood of knowing what is wrong vs what is right. Ditto on the hours and hours of p*rn viewing per day as kids brains are wiring up (same drum being beaten).

On top of that, majority of schools, down this end of planet anyway, teach kids, certainly in the lower levels, just to regurgitate facts, rather than ask questions. Problem as I see it is that the regurgitators just grow up to be foot-soldiers and never question the status quo. We're only going to change the world if we grow more children who can QUESTION and say NO.

It's the only chance I reckon this planet has got.

In fact picking up on your Rolf Harris point (huge sigh - how disappointing was that?) - I reckon a huge part of that problem (and Saville and I'm just waiting to hear in HoL and govt) was that kids again were just raised to do what they were told and not to question .. not to say no .. if an adult says / does something nasty then tough bickies, .. if a powerful adult does something etc it is not your place to question or complain.

I think what was particularly informative from that whole pile of vomit was that not only was there the issue of kids saying nothing (or if they were, they weren't believed), and then a few of them had the balls to speak out when they were adults, but a handful of grown women (Feltz, Nolan etc) themselves didn't feel they were able to complain against "powerful" Rolf. STAGGERING and very very sad. It has to change.

I'm there with you on killing the money .. actually I'd put it at # 2 after the # 1 of destroying mirrors .. but to get enough people to start thinking outside of the box, saying NO and questioning sh*t, we have to fundamentally change our education system or the pace of uptake of "radical" thinking will be too slow .. and Sauron will be the victor.

* Will pick up on your GTA5 comment when I can find the other thread.