...and make it mandatory!

OK, I can already see people picking up stones to pelt me with. But hear me out.

There are two big problems people with ADHD tend to have (among others):
1) short attention span
2) a problem finishing what they've started.

By limiting posts to a reasonable length, we would be making them much more readable, and therefore valuable, to readers.

At the same time, we would be discouraging posters from babbling and rambling on and on, as we are wont to do. They would be forced to make their point quickly, and have the satisfaction of having finished something they started, instead of waiting until they're interrupted by the phone or some other external cue. (Good therapy, don't you think?)

How long? How about 750 words, for a start? That's about the length of the standard syndicated column. If Bill Buckley and Maureen Dowd can make their point in that many words, we can too.

Phil

PS And frequent paragraph breaks should be mandatory, too.

...and make it mandatory!

OK, I can already see people picking up stones to pelt me with. But hear me out.

There are two big problems people with ADHD tend to have (among others):
1) short attention span
2) a problem finishing what they've started.

By limiting posts to a reasonable length, we would be making them much more readable, and therefore valuable, to readers.

At the same time, we would be discouraging posters from babbling and rambling on and on, as we are wont to do. They would be forced to make their point quickly, and have the satisfaction of having finished something they started, instead of waiting until they're interrupted by the phone or some other external cue. (Good therapy, don't you think?)

How long? How about 750 words, for a start? That's about the length of the standard syndicated column. If Bill Buckley and Maureen Dowd can make their point in that many words, we can too.

Phil

PS And frequent paragraph breaks should be mandatory, too.I disagree on the length limit. For one thing, when we quote other's posts to reply to them that increases the words in a post, doesn't it? I would hate to see directly addressing other's posts to diminish. Quoting the posts of others when responding increases clarity.

Also, since bumping one's own posts is discouraged, a limit might mean people cannot fully explore an issue. I have seen very readable long posts and completely incomprehensible short ones. Therefore, a length limit would impose a mandatory rule without necessarily solving the problem.

I would like to see:

1. The use of organizing devices, such as numbering or paragraph headings.

2. Complete elimination of the ellipsis except for signaling that a quote has been condensed. That's the . . . that some people use so arbitrarily and unnecessarily.

3. Proper comma usage.

4. Capital letters at the beginning of sentences and periods at the end.

5. Ditto on your paragraphing suggestion.

But what about people who don't know these writing "rules?" Do we want to limit their expression? What good do paragraph breaks do if they have no relationship to a shift in tone or subject matter?

I think we have to allow people to be themselves and use their own modes of expression.

When I find a post unreadable, I just skip it.

I think it would be a mistake to expect forum members to adhere to strict guidelines on grammar, punctuation, etc. Many of them have legitimate learning disabilities. So many of us struggled with this in school, and this Forum is a place where many people feel safe, often for the first time in their lives.

Can't we gently educate people through our own examples, instead of limiting them in areas that may be lifelong struggles already? I admit openly to cringing at sentences ending with prepositions, but I'm an English teacher, so it comes with the territory. It doesn't make someone else's post less emotion-packed simply because he/she didn't know what an elipsis is actually used for.
(yes, that was deliberate, and yes, I am CRINGING) :p

The reality is that people who come here are not successful newspaper column writers, and many of us rambled early in our diagnoses (and continue to do so from time to time--raises hand--guilty).

I would rather respond to a rambling post with redirecting questions, to help subtly guide the person back on topic. The information, emotions, relief, etc. still eventually get delivered, even if this round about way makes it take a bit longer.

There are my two cents. :soapbox: Officially gets off of my soapbox. (Okay, I have been waiting for an opportunity to use the new icons!)

Actually, some of these things are already covered in the Forum Guidelines. Especially the paragraph part, I know if it's a stream of consciousness post I start to skim.

As far as editing, well, that does happen. But please keep in mind that we have people visiting from all over the world, with varying degrees of literacy and also learning disabilities can/often go right along with ADD. So does impatience. :)

If you find a post truly unreadable please contact a moderator (in green or yellow) and maybe it can be clarified if they feel it would help. Hope this is a bit of a reassurance.

I, being adhd, write like I talk. Quickly, alot, and with way too much info. I work on a computer 8 hours a day and still can't type as fast as my adhd brain goes. I just have sooooooooooo much to say. I can never get it all out fast enough.

I do not mind reading lengthy messages. If I am interested in the topic, I will read the whole thing, sometimes twice, in case I missed something (which surprises me too). If it is not something that I am interested in, I skip to the next thread.

The one thing that I do not particularly care for, is tiny little font. I am 43, have glasses and contacts but do not wear either. I prefer reading the default font that is offered. Especially because I usually find myself here (like everyone else) late at night because I can't sleep (there's that adhd again.)

As far as spelling, I definitely do not worry about it. I have heard that famous writers and poets get their thoughts on paper and then later, someone else corrects their spelling. If they have to edit their spelling while typing or writing, they would loose their train of thought (which also is easy to do as an adder).

I would hope that someone (like my ADD husband) would not hesitate to post a question or comment just because they do not feel their spelling, grammar or typing is up to par.

As for spelling, here's something to ponder:



The paomnnehil pweor of the hmuan mnid



Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.



The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.



Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.



Amzanig huh?

Aer we hte only oens wthi an H?

Yikes... my days on this forum might be numbered. I wouldn't consider posting if I have to spend a bunch of time making sure my grammar is perfect. And I LOVE my ....'s. I find it a little bit snobby to expect such a thing. And I read and edit audiobooks for a living so I do know how to speak and write correctly. I feel like I all of a sudden have guidelines like this is some sort of term paper and I am being graded and judged. Don't read if it is to long or you don't like how someone writes...

No one is going to be correcting spelling, grammar or long paragraphs, folks. Type as you like :)

PS And frequent paragraph breaks should be mandatory, too.
Phil.
I have to agree about the paragraph breaks. I'm forced now that I'm an admin, to read specific posts whereas before I'd have just ignored them if they were not broken up frequently.

The long posts without breaks really challenge me. I do not like them, those ones no!

Too much Dr. Seuss wisdom!

The rambling long winded epistles you don't like, I am afraid I'm guilty of producing my share.

The longer I'm here, the more involved some of the discussions I'm intersted in become. I've always been a bit wordy though so I tolerate it well. I do find the written word a great pleasure.

I love to read and I have to write. I feel fortunate to have like minded people here that seem to be able to handle some of my ramblings. I agree that the long winded versions of some posts are not for everyone.

Happily, there are places like the chit chat forum that don't specialise in anything but the lighter and shoter versions of our need to converse.

There are other places and people here though, that are endeavouring to push the limits of our understanding of ADHD. This requires many words, as they hammer out concepts that are new and unproven.

I hope you can be patient with the wordy among us and find a place here among those that don't need so many words to say what they need. ;)
Cheers! Ian.

What's an elipsis? :D

Hmmm... let me think... If my lame grammer skills are in momentary suspension it's the three full stops (periods) like this "..."

It may be spelt "ellipsis".

What's an elipsis? :D
. . . :D

Ian is more educated than I. He can explain things in smaller letters and with better spelling. :p

If I couldn't use "..." when I typed, that would mean that my posts would be three times as long because when I use "...", I am summing up probley two, three, maybe four paragraphs.

And then after adding the additional paragraphs because I didn't use "...", I would have several dozen more thoughts pop into my adhd head and my posts would be even longer...

So I am a "..." for life...

If I couldn't use "..." when I typed, that would mean that my posts would be three times as long because when I use "...", I am summing up probley two, three, maybe four paragraphs.

And then after adding the additional paragraphs because I didn't use "...", I would have several dozen more thoughts pop into my adhd head and my posts would be even longer...

So I am a "..." for life...Nah...heres wat i meen...when ppl jes...say one darn thing after nother n use...in da place of periods...or what non-yanks call full stop...n no caps...no commas...come on...dat is so hard for middle-aged ppl to read... :(

Got it period Now that comma I agree with period
paragraph
I also find it hard to read those kind of messages period Those are probably the ones I have had to read over and over period
paragraph
Thanks for clarifying dot dot dot :)

Thanks guys! I appreciate the knowledge of ellipsisis...see, learn somefing new everyday!!! Groovy dudes.

Just my two cents, but limiting posts is unreasonable IMHO. Especially for us ADDer's, or at least it is for me. I am no good at summing up as I am sure you are all painfully aware when reading my posts. I have to talk outloud at home all the time to get to the conclusion of anything! :D

Have a great night all!

Phil.
The rambling long winded epistles you don't like, I am afraid I'm guilty of producing my share...

Guilty here, too. Just blather on and on many times, and some of my messages probably could be shorter, but I cannot figure out how to make them so while writing them. Sorry.

Chrys

rotflmbo

SEE? I correct this stuff at work...(heehee) When I come home, the red pen stays in the desk, where it belongs!

May you all have a wonderful weekend, free from the contraints of grammar and punctuation!

I heart elipsisesesiz...

Oh mr. admininstrator! Point of Order, please. I started a thread suggesting limiting length of posts.
The next poster responded by saying (although she probably meant to be ironic) that she thought posts should be grammatically correct, too.

Now, I made no mention of grammar. Length and grammar have nothing to do with each other. I think it would be a silly idea to make such a requirement.

But from that point on the thread became a "grammar" thread, and quickly petered out. If someone wants to suggest grammar restrictions he or she should start another thread. And the moderator, if there is one, should delete any posts that are off the subject.

I would have been glad to hear some thoughtful posts on why it would be wrong to set any limits on length. Or even why it would be a good idea. But I never will because the thread went entirely off subject almost immediately, and, as a result, quickly died.

I can't try again because that would probably be against the rules, and I wouldn't anyhow, because it would only make me seem like a jerk. So all I can say is it would be nice to have a moderator who did some moderating. Thanks a million.
Phil

Oh mr. admininstrator! Point of Order, please. I started a thread suggesting limiting length of posts.
The next poster responded by saying (although she probably meant to be ironic) that she thought posts should be grammatically correct, too.

I know. I'm a witch! :D


Now, I made no mention of grammar. Length and grammar have nothing to do with each other. I think it would be a silly idea to make such a requirement.

Oh yes they do, because you asked for limited length in the interests of readability. Grammar and punctuation have plenty to do with readability.

However, note that in the end that I said that, despite my personal preferences, everyone should be able to post in his or her own style because I do not feel there should be forum rules about either length or style or spelling or punctuation or grammar.

To each his own.

To solve the problem of Long Posts, Poor Grammer, Bad Spelling and Uncontroled use of Elipse's ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Its really quite simple

Don't bother reading anything... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Go to the Last post ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Copy some part of the post that looks like theres no Spelling, Grammer, or Paragraph Structure Faults in it ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Hit the Reply Button ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Go to Advanced Mode ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Use the Quote Button ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...Quote whatever it was that you copied ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


And then start to type whatever comes into your head as if you have something intellegent to say ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Works for me :D

I do it all the time :)

Nobody has ever even noticed :D

Who said Canadian schools don't do a good job!! :faint:

To solve the problem of Long Posts, Poor Grammer, Bad Spelling and Uncontroled use of Elipse's ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Its really quite simple

Don't bother reading anything... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Go to the Last post ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Copy some part of the post that looks like theres no Spelling, Grammer, or Paragraph Structure Faults in it ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Hit the Reply Button ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Go to Advanced Mode ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Use the Quote Button ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


Quote whatever it was that you copied ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


And then start to type whatever comes into your head as if you have something intellegent to say ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Works for me :D

I do it all the time :)

Nobody has ever even noticed :D
Your right Garry, I have never noticed.

And just for fun, I think this thread stayed on topic pretty well, all things considered.:eyebrow: Basically I think the general consensus was that limiting posts was unrealistic, and frankly, rather unfriendly. ADDer's are not known for clear, concise, and collected thoughts. At least I am not. Rambling on certain topics is a given. And to try to shorten a response would leave incomplete thoughts and replies IMHO. I can not keep it short all the time. The only place I can really do that is in the chit-chat forum on the word games posts. A short answer is required for a simple task. Piece of cake. But ask for my input, or opinion, and your are gonna get a life story!

Sorry.:o

Phil.
I have to agree about the paragraph breaks. I'm forced now that I'm an admin, to read specific posts whereas before I'd have just ignored them if they were not broken up frequently.

The long posts without breaks really challenge me. I do not like them, those ones no!

Hows about some kind of optional formatting script to break up long paragraphs, based on full stop/comma placement? Like I say it wouldnt be mandatory,maybe it could generate a popup box asking the poster if they want a formatting wizard to make it easier to read.

Sheesh...

rotflmbo

i loathe those little pop up wizards.

they break my concentration every time i am attempting to create a document in word at work.

however, it's very nice to offer problem solving ideas.

Very gracious and diplomatic of you ms. sunshine. The name "ms sunshine" sure is disarmingly charming!! :D

My aunt is a teacher too. One of the first emails she sent me explained that she corrects papers all day long and refused to do it in emails when corresponding with family. Too time consuming she said. I am sure my typing, grammar, ramblings etc, drive her nuts. But she has never said a thing to me. I fear if she did, I would be afraid to email her for fear of sounding profoundly stupid.

Sheesh...
Sorry, only trying to help.

Say, could I offer a dissenting voice here? I don’t know if I agree entirely with the idea of limiting the length of posts. At least not with making it mandatory.

But I do think the original poster has been treated atrociously. In the first place, you should do him the courtesy of at least reading his post, and I mean reading it attentively. I know that’s hard for us ADDers to do. But unlike some of you, I don’t think that the fact that we had this condition should be used as an all-purpose excuse for incivility.

If I babble on and on, and get off the subject, as I often do, I apologize. I don’t say, “I realize I’ve gone on too long, but you see, I have ADHD. I am a victim, and you should all therefore cut me some slack.”

Some of you say that it is insensitive and unreasonable to expect someone with ADD to make any effort to improve himself. I have a doctor like that. If I show up late, or not at all, for my appointment, HE BILLS ME FOR IT ANYWAY. He knows perfectly well that I have ADHD, and that it is very very difficult for me to remember such things.

And that’s not all. He practically demands that I make and stick to a daily schedule, that I keep careful track of how much and how often I take my RX, and that I restrict time on the Internet and in front of the tube, and spend more time reading. I should schedule a time for reading, and a time for STOPPING reading; a time for writing, and a time for STOPPING writing. (He even suggests I use an alarm so I don’t zone out and get off schedule.)

He has the gaul to insist that I exercise every day with a brisk half hour walk, because that’s one of the best therapies for ADHD. It increases dopamine, for one thing. And finally---because my alarm is about to go off: he insists that I not drink, another thing that people with ADHD tend to do.

So all I’m saying is if you look at his post, the guy who started this said that he has the same problem,

“At the same time, we would be discouraging posters from babbling and rambling on and on, as we are wont to do. They would be forced to make their point quickly, and have the satisfaction of having finished something they started, instead of waiting until they're interrupted by the phone or some other external cue. (Good therapy, don't you think?)”

So, the guy was trying to be constructive. But like my doctor, he has this naïve idea that …(I’m sorry, there goes the buzzer.)

Philidor you make some good points.

I would hope that the types of improvements or efforts, on the parts of the long winded among us, would come rather through example than a rule set.

I don't respond to rules well but I do make a big effort to improve my skills.

If you look at the guidelines here, they are already lengthy. It was beyond me when I first came here, to bother to wade through them all, and have a hope of retaining any of the content.

I don't mean to be an aggravation here. I sympathise with the original poster and some of the extraordinarily long posts.

To assume we aren't all doing our best is mistaken I think, or at least misguided. We all come to the board on different parts of the journey and some of us benefit greatly by the patience and example of those that travel ahead of us.

I hope you can post a lot more somewhere here about what you and your doctor have hammered out as a plan for addressing your ADHD symptoms. It's sounding very attractive to me.

Thanks a heap for putting your comments forward and thanks to the original poster for braving the feedback. I hope you can all find ways to help each other live more fully here.
Structure hungry - Ian

To solve the problem of Long Posts, Poor Grammer, Bad Spelling and Uncontroled use of Elipse's ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Go to the Last post ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


Whatch'you talkin about Garry? ( in my best imatation of Garry Coleman) lol

"Limit length of posts!"

...and make it mandatory!

...

There are two big problems people with ADHD tend to have (among others):
1) short attention span
2) a problem finishing what they've started.

By limiting posts to a reasonable length, we would be making them much more readable, and therefore valuable, to readers.

At the same time, we would be discouraging posters from babbling and rambling on and on, as we are wont to do. They would be forced to make their point quickly, and have the satisfaction of having finished something they started, instead of waiting until they're interrupted by the phone or some other external cue. (Good therapy, don't you think?)

...

Phil

PS And frequent paragraph breaks should be mandatory, too.

hey phil,

i'm going to keep it short, just for you. :D

since everyone gets to decide for him/her self what personal goals they'd like to set, it'd be inappropriate for admins or moderators to dictate length of posts, in my opinion.

it's the nature of the beast, phil. not an excuse. some of us here are able to be more succinct than others. some of us have days when a few words will do and other days when we ramble.

i hear you, phil. some posts are hard to read. some threads veer off-topic so horribly that it makes it hard to digest. however, i don't believe the answer lies with expecting someone else to conform to our standards. we have to take people as they come to us. verbosity and all.

take care,

W.

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i do ramble on in this section, feel free to skip it, my main points have been made.

But I do think the original poster has been treated atrociously. In the first place, you should do him the courtesy of at least reading his post, and I mean reading it attentively. I know that’s hard for us ADDers to do. But unlike some of you, I don’t think that the fact that we had this condition should be used as an all-purpose excuse for incivility.

If I babble on and on, and get off the subject, as I often do, I apologize. I don’t say, “I realize I’ve gone on too long, but you see, I have ADHD. I am a victim, and you should all therefore cut me some slack.”

Some of you say that it is insensitive and unreasonable to expect someone with ADD to make any effort to improve himself. I have a doctor like that. If I show up late, or not at all, for my appointment, HE BILLS ME FOR IT ANYWAY. He knows perfectly well that I have ADHD, and that it is very very difficult for me to remember such things.

i was confused at first because your opening line made it seem like you weren't the original poster. talking about yourself in the third person threw me for a loop too. just wanted to let you know i am paying attention.

i had a doctor like you described. she took a very hard line and went by the rule book when it came to accommodating me when i came in 12 minutes late. her cut-off was 10 minutes. my excuse was that my 3-yr-old daughter, who was sick with pneumonia, threw up on me as i was leaving the house, *not* ADD by the way. i was late because we both needed to put puke-free clothes on.

it was her prerogative to refuse to see my daughter. it was her prerogative to inform her staff that i should drive an additional 30 minutes to urgent care where i'd be exposing my already sick kid to who-knows-what.

it was my prerogative to find a new doctor. That day!

i think taking a hard-line by limiting post length and mandating paragraph breaks would intimidate ADD Forum members whose writing skills and communication style would make it hard for them to limit the length of their post.

so, i’m not going to tell someone else to be more concise. if i have the time and inclination, i try to wade through it. if i don’t, i move on. problem solved.

ciao,

W.

Okay all of you make a good point, :foot: so I am just going to agree with not limiting the post or worring about the spelling and just type your hearts away:eyebrow: I am guilty I use the ... alot but it is just how my mind is working ....I do use ... when I am thinking about what to say next. Garry I loved your post... every other ...line...:p

I do think we all are aware of the paragraph thinky ...ya know breaking up a rather long post. :D To be honest, I just can't read them my attention span and focusing isnt there. All of you are goofy I loved reading this thread. I guess I am goofy too then. :foot:

When I come across a post without paragraph breaks, I try to read it. If I can't get through it, but wish I could, I drop the person who posted it a brief note letting them know. Then the poster realizes that s/he has lost one reader. S/he can decide whether to accommodate readers by breaking up paragraphs, or not.

I've got an annoying inner editor too, and grammar mistakes etc. do catch my eye. But I see this habit of mine, this looking at the trees and missing the forest, noticing the dust but not the diamond beneath (ahh, running out of metaphors) as my own weakness.

Some people have a lot of value to share, but can't express it perfectly; it's a shame. Still, those people are more fortunate that those who write well but have nothing of value to contribute.

I am going to have to agree with wheezie. I decided not to "quote" her post as it would be long and redundant.

I do try to keep it short whenever possible. But at times, I can not explain myself well, and therefore I ramble.

More importantly, I was also briefly confused about Phil, talking about Phil in the third person, all the time thinking to myself, wasnt Phil the original poster? I am curious as to the point of this. And I also was reading it attentively.

Something else I would like to point out...Phil arent you a writer by trade. Wouldnt that put you at both an advantage, (well spoken, succinct, brief) and a disadvantage, (impatient with the inablilty of others to articulate well)reading and writing posts here? Just curious.

Otherwise, I do my best, as I am positive others do. I read what I can, and skip over what I cant. If it was really important to me, I find a way to be more articulate and repost. Usually, I find it has more theraputic value for me to just put it out there, rather than worry if someone else can read it or not.

Just thought I'd share.

Have a beautious day all!!!!!

Thank You crazymama for Not doing that long quote thing.
That always makes it harder for me to read a persons post.
When a person has just said something I post under them.
Like I'm doing now instead of requoting what was just said.
All the quotes and other things surronding a person's post is what makes them hard for me to read.

I copy and paste just the parts I want to read.
Then email them to myself.
I also hold a notepad over anything that moves.
I really enjoy hearing what others have to say.
So I have to find my own ways to be able to read them.

Let’s see now, a hundred things to say.

Firsts, thanks to IAN (4/11) for the kind words. If you were trying to make me feel good, you succeeded (without causing morning hangover).

crazymama05 4/14 asked why I posted my third in the third person. (Sneaky trick.) Fair question. An number of reasons:

1) wanted to get the thread back on subject.
2) wanted to proved that many were not reading, or at least, not reading attentively. Notice that my 3rd requested repeatedly that all take a second look at the first post. So did my experiment work. You tell me.
4) I wanted to see if a softer approach would generate more thoughtful responses. My tone at the first was deliberately provocative ("Make it mandatory!!!")

And yes, I am a writer, but a failed one. I have two problems: 1) starting and 2) finishing.

I won’t address the silly idea that discussing grammar is not changing the subject. As Lincoln said in one of his debates, I can’t help feeling foolish trying to answer an argument that is no argument at all.”

Observation: Everybody seemed so eagar to change the subject. Why? A few hinted at the answer. They’ve been guilty of writing long-winded posts too. (You ought to see my mine. But you won’t. My notebook is full of them. )

As for self-expression, and “to each his own”, why doesn’t that apply to ALL CAPS POSTS or profanity-laden posts. At some point, self-expression becomes self indulgence, now doesn’t it.

I’ve forgotten, honestly why I started the thread. I don’t think I was provoked by too many long posts, but I wanted to suggest long posts are bad for ADDults.

Hypothersis: many don’t want to face this point because it would mean admitted that they have been abusing this website in indulge their ADD-related foibles, and making them worse. But they hate to face it. They might as well be playing video games.

And one would suppose that should be discouraged. An anger management site would discourage violent arguments, not defend them as “self-expression” would it not?

Finally, I thought this thread had turned into a waste of time. But now I think its one of the best, for me anyhow, since I learned so much from it. So thanks to one and all for contributing.

Phil

>>>> Hypothersis: many don’t want to face this point because it would mean admitted that they have been abusing this website in indulge their ADD-related foibles, and making them worse. But they hate to face it. They might as well be playing video games.<<<<<


"abuse.......abuse.......abuse", they say, while making slapping motions across the faces of forum members. Ouch.

Bad, bad forum members..you are all banned...you are all sent to your rooms.



Southern girls get their feelings hurt, Phil...think I'll go crawl under a rock with Garry and play video games.

I am guilty of long winded posts because sometimes I cannot convey the feelings or thoughts I want to convey in less then 700 words. If they limit the length of my posts I will find a way around that much as I have many other rules such as hitting post and then finishing my thought thru the next posting box or even the one after that just to push some buttons. Have I mentioned that I may very well be ODD as well as my many other dx's. *smiles happily to self*

I'd also like to remind you of one thing. You hold in your hand the power of ignore!!!! You don't like a certain member-click to ignore them *can you still see me?*, you can leave a thread at anytime due to the profanity though I do hope you chose to report that thread first so a moderator can take it to task. Its about personal choice you choose to read a post or not, you choose.

Sorry about my last post, Phil. The sarcasm was uncalled for and ugly.
Short and sweet apology.

Annie

The paomnnehil pweor of the hmuan mnid



Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.



The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm.



Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.





Amzanig huh?


My son's school sent this home attached to the newsletter. He's 8 & had no problem reading it...Dx ADHD at 4 & not on meds. It is pretty amazing!!