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mildadhd
10-30-14, 03:16 PM
In the cloudy swirl of misleading ideas surrounding public discussion of addiction, there's is one that stands out: the misconception that drug taking by itself will lead to addiction--in other words, that the cause of addiction resides in the power of the drug over the human..

..It also obscures the existence of a basic addiction process of which drugs are only one possible object, among many.

Compulsive gambling, for example, is widely considered to be a form of addiction without anyone arguing that it's caused by a deck of cards.


-Gabor Mate M.D., "In The Realm Of Hungry Ghosts", P 133.




In this thread I would like to discuss and learn more about "a basic addiction process."

(I may take some time before I post or reply, to research the biology of the brain processes involved)

Discussion appreciated.



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mildadhd
10-30-14, 03:33 PM
Compulsive gambling, for example, is widely considered to be a form of addiction without anyone arguing that it's caused by a deck of cards. (Dr.Mate)

Example

If the deck of cards by itself is not the only factor, when a person suffers from a gambling addiction, what are the other basic factors and brain processes involved?




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Greyhound1
10-30-14, 04:19 PM
Example

If the deck of cards by itself is not the only factor, when a person suffers from a gambling addiction, what are the other basic factors and brain processes involved?




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I would think it's based on exposure to the addictive agent and one's own physical and psychological responses to them. The physical and psychological responses experienced could be linked to your genetics as a predisposition.

mildadhd
10-30-14, 05:26 PM
Please feel free to add to the list so far, this list is only meant as a guideline to organize the discussion, see original post quotes for context and accuracy.


-"the existence of a basic addiction process" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"drugs are only one possible object, among many." (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"compulsive gambling" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"form of addiction" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"the cause of addiction" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"a deck of cards" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"misleading ideas surrounding a public discussion of addiction" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"the misconception that drug taking by itself will lead to addiction" (post #1 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693457&postcount=1))

-"not the only factor" (post #2 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693465&postcount=2))

-"basic factors and brain processes" (post #2 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693465&postcount=2))

-"exposure" (post #3 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693472&postcount=3))

-"addictive agent" (post #3 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693472&postcount=3))

-"experienced" (post #3 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693472&postcount=3))

-"own physical and psychological responses" (post #3 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693472&postcount=3))

-"linked to genetics as a predisposition" (post #3 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1693472&postcount=3))




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Little Missy
10-30-14, 08:24 PM
Ritualsm.

daveddd
10-30-14, 08:48 PM
achievement of homeostasis from an external source, when it isn't attainable internally

daveddd
10-30-14, 09:01 PM
my psych deals with a lot of addicted patients , he specializes in bipolar

he says he sees addicts use to make painful emotions go away

or equally, feel emotions they seem normally not to have access to

sarahsweets
11-01-14, 08:11 AM
This is how I see addiction for me. I believe there is a strong genetic link for addiction and also a connection with addiction and mental illness. My dad was addicted to drugs,alcohol,sex and also manic depressive(before they knew about bipolar). He lived his life untreated and each addiction would rotate so there would always be one that was front and center. I was diagnosed bipolar 15 years ago. I always thought that since I was aware of my dad's issues with addiction that the self awareness would spare me. He died when I was 25 due to the effects of drugs and alcohol. I always had mini addiction issues that I ignored because I hadn't had negative consequences affect me yet. Once I passed my 30 its like one day I woke up and started drinking and that kept me on a runaway train of alcoholism. I got sober for the right reasons almost two years ago. I know I can't blame my dad for alcoholism but it sure is interesting that even though I was aware of his issues and trying to be mindful of my own,I managed to be an alcoholic. I believe that maybe if the bipolar skipped me perhaps I wouldn't have addiction issues but the bipolar and alcoholism together have been a lethal combination.

Raye
11-01-14, 12:05 PM
If I read the OPs question correctly , to me, the
basic addiction process has been like this:

1.Prescribed .025 xanax 3x daily.

2. A week later, the .025 dose no longer
is effective. So its raised to .05 mg.

3. Same pattern. Raised again to 1 mg
3x daily.

4. Same pattern, I began self medicating
with 2-3 mgs at one time. When that was
no longer effective, I began 4-5 mgs and so
on.

5. Felt like I was near death for 3
days straight when I could no longer
access any xanax or benzo at all.

6. Admitted myself to detox.

mildadhd
11-03-14, 02:03 PM
"..drug abuse can come not from the drug, but from living in a cage"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3swVNAaoDgw

Stevuke79
11-03-14, 05:57 PM
This is pretty much included in what others said, but there is some relatively recent research that suggests on certain types of people, with certain types of neurological characteristics are CAPABLE of being addicted in the first place.

It's not exactly an item for the list, but I think it's interesting.