View Full Version : Poor spatial awareness?


smooch
08-14-03, 05:20 PM
Just wondering if any of you have daily, multiple occurrences of close encounters with various kinds of inanimate objects (moving or static)--despite the fact that you know the cabinet corner/door jamb/box/wall/doorknob/stool/etc. is there...and have probably in fact received a bruise or some other injury from it on several occasions?

It seems no matter how much space there is between me and even a wall--not a corner of a wall, the whole big flat part--I will almost always somehow meander over close enough to it to run my shoulder into it or smack it with my hand as I walk.

Or is this lunacy singular to me? I remember reading that ADDers do have poor personal space perception.....

(Yep, the inspiration for this thread came shortly after I banged into the very large and smoothly curved end of a bank of file drawers next to my cubicle/prison.) :D

Wheel1975
08-15-03, 12:26 AM
I'm not cursed with this problem, but I lose things while I'm STILL sitting in my chair.

I think that the ADHD part of that for you is simply a loss of reference continuity (the ADHD part) combined with a spacial domain.

I think the common point for many of these things is the loss of continuity, the domain is jst where we happen t be suseptible. (Where is the spell checker?!?)

fasttalkingmom
08-15-03, 06:45 AM
Oh yes this is me ! On time I gave myself a black eye because I opened a door and started to walk faster than I could move my foot out of the way...lol...

Funny thing is, I do better getting around the house in the dark !I'll not bump into anything..lol...

I'm famous for slamming into my children and knocking then to the floor.....lol.......lol....

Paula

why
08-15-03, 07:44 AM
It seems no matter how much space there is between me and even a wall--not a corner of a wall, the whole big flat part--I will almost always somehow meander over close enough to it to run my shoulder into it or smack it with my hand as I walk.

--- Wow! Yet another thing that it seems we have in common! I can't believe this! I have walked into door jams so hard, so as to crack the dry wall around them (I'm 6' tall, 200lb so there's a wee bit of mass there) and there are currently three watches in my drawer with cracked glass!

And, if that wasn't the kicker...

Funny thing is, I do better getting around the house in the dark !I'll not bump into anything..lol...

I can negotiate my entire house with my eyes closed, albeit slowly, and have done so many a times because I can't fall asleep untill well after everyone else has!

Wow! I said it before and I'll say it again -> "I am so glad to have found this place!"

js_africanus
08-15-03, 08:47 AM
I have pretty good body awareness--I don't bump into things that much. It may depend on upbringing. I grew up skiing, for example, which requires pretty good body awareness.

Jonathan
08-15-03, 09:58 AM
I crash into things too. And not consistently (as you say in the dark's OK, though not in a room you know too well ha ha!). I read somewhere else on these forums a comment about 'understimulated' ADDers unconsciously seeking stimulation by crashing into things (can't find it now), which I related to this characteristic in myself. When parking the car in an agitated or distracted frame of mind I used to always end up grinding the wheels against the kerb, because (rationalization) I somehow was never satisfied with having parked close enough until I did. Although the iterative or more conscious nature of this makes it slightly different, I think the psychology (or neurology!) of it is related. I don't do this any more - perhaps partly because I've learned by 'trial and error' *exactly* how wide the car is...


Feel the same way as you, why (as I've said before too), though I wish at the moment I could stop hovering about, mostly undecided whether to take part properly or log off and get on with all the other stuff I have to do (there's woefully little pressure at the moment but the clock is still ticking).

fasttalkingmom
08-15-03, 10:09 AM
This maybe off the subject a bit but, I think it still has something to do with awareness.

I have a problem with a face that looks angry unless of course I'm smiling...lol... Can't tell you how many times I hear " Will you smile"or" are you mad at me"or"you look so serious all the time".

I think this is because I'm so not aware of how hard I'm thinking about other stuff when I'm around others.

Anyone else do this ?

why
08-15-03, 11:03 AM
Yep. I get that "So serious!" or "Angry?" thing on a daily basis. I guess I don't realize what my facial expression is like unless I consiously alter it....into a smile of course :)

Jonathan
08-15-03, 11:20 AM
My wife often wonders why I am frowning. I can be quite grumpy, but at least half the time when she comments on my frowns etc I am not feeling remotely grumpy. Actually, I can be oversensitive to her apparent mood too, but I think this is a different thing (ie it's my problem again!).

Lafnalot
08-15-03, 12:18 PM
It is a joke at work about my running itno walls, cabinets, even broke a nail so badly once it was down to the quick and bled like a river, I cant do a full mouth series of xrays without hitting my head on the ,achine once. In the morning when I wake up I bounce off things like a pinball til I reach my destination.

smooch
08-15-03, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Lafnalot
In the morning when I wake up I bounce off things like a pinball til I reach my destination.

Oh, yeah. Mornings are usually VERY painful for me.... Not only am I sooooo not a morning person (that is, on the waking up side of mornings...just LOVE staying up until the wee hours), but that is when I seem to receive the most bruises. I often ricochet from one side of a door jamb to the other. It baffles me how I have never broken my collar bone or any other bones for that matter during my morning struggles.... :D

lilthingsADDup
08-15-03, 02:06 PM
I had like severely poor spatial awareness when I was younger. Thankfully, I outgrew it. :)

joanrdtobe
08-15-03, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by fasttalkingmom


I have a problem with a face that looks angry unless of course I'm smiling...lol...

I think this is because I'm so not aware of how hard I'm thinking about other stuff when I'm around others.

Anyone else do this ?

So relate to this....People will say to me, "why the frown"? or even "why so pensive??"

I want to say "leave me alone darnit". But I end up saying, "oh it's nothing, just thinking".

waywardclam
08-15-03, 03:21 PM
I plead not guilty to crashing into things... I have occasionally, but no more than other people do, I think.

However people are ALWAYS telling me I look mad, or saying "what's wrong?" when everything is just fine. I wonder why that trend is being reported here?

codeman38
08-15-03, 07:43 PM
Oh, man. This thread totally reminds me of myself...

I'm notorious for running into things. And it's not as if I don't know they're there; in fact, it's quite obvious. I just misjudge my own position, or the breadth of the turn I'm making, or whatever the case may be. This is also one of the reasons I detest driving; much of the time, I can't tell where the car is in relation to the road...

And as for not smiling? Yep, I know that complaint all too well... not that I can really do much about it besides silently tell jokes to myself. :D

ferrette1976
09-18-03, 03:58 PM
Ditto on both issues -

My hands and body are covered in scars from all of the unfortunate encounters I have had over the years

And I used to have a friend in school who was constantly passing me notes about the "dirty looks" I was giving her.

Keppig
09-18-03, 08:11 PM
I bump into things too but as for lack of spacial sense, that isn't true. I scored twice in my life a test for spacial reasoning and I scored 100% on both tests. I wonder if the reason we bump into things is just us not paying attention ;)

smooch
09-19-03, 09:31 AM
Woke up this morning to find a nickle-sized bruise on my forehead above my right eye.... NO CLUE as to how/when it happened!

ferrette1976
09-19-03, 11:12 AM
That happens to me all of the time. My husband will point to a bruise or scab and say "what happened" - 99% of the time I reply "I dunno!"

I think if you x-rayed my feet, you would find multiple breaks in my toes.

:rolleyes:

Keppig
09-19-03, 08:52 PM
Ferrette, you made me laugh with that last line! I had a car accident about 5 years ago and my pinky hurt on my right hand.
The emergancy room took xrays of both my hands and yes I had broken my pinky... however what really got me is the doctor counting all the places where I have broken my fingers in the past, he counted over 30 places on my right hand alone... you know I don't remember hurting myself that much :D

codeman38
03-13-04, 07:54 PM
Oh, also, speaking of bumping into things... do any of you apologize to the inanimate objects afterward? It sounds silly, but it's almost a sort of reflex or something.

I find myself saying "excuse me" quite frequently after running into things. I'd say I was just weird, but a few of my neurologically atypical friends have admitted to doing so as well...

codeman38
03-13-04, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by fasttalkingmom
I have a problem with a face that looks angry unless of course I'm smiling...lol... Can't tell you how many times I hear " Will you smile"or" are you mad at me"or"you look so serious all the time".

Heh, I was thinking about this after reading a post on another forum, and it led me to wonder...

The thing that's so often interpreted as a frown or an angry expression is basically what I consider to be a default facial expression... in other words, the way I look when I'm not really feeling any strong emotion.

Do neurotypicals have a default expression like that? Or is smiling the default for them?

Jellybean
03-13-04, 08:53 PM
I get the whats wrong question. I think it's because I am thinking so much. And my mouth just isn't straight across when its closed.
My eyes look sad sometimes, but it seems to be often when I am not sad.
About the spatial awareness,(whatever that word is!) I am lucky to be spatially aware.
But I do ( every few months or less) go through periods where I get hurt a lot.
I believe those times are when I am on the brink of a little jump in consciousness so my attention is elsewhere. Then all of a sudden no more boo boo's. Until my next growth spurt.