View Full Version : U.K.: Ritalin users DOUBLE in a decade


dag nab it
08-16-15, 05:26 PM
An article in today's Daily Mail (Britain):

Ritalin users DOUBLE in a decade amid fear that doctors are wrongly diagnosing children as having ADHD

You can read it here, and comment if you like:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3200095/Ritalin-users-DOUBLE-decade-amid-fear-doctors-wrongly-diagnosing-children-having-ADHD.html

Little Missy
08-16-15, 07:13 PM
Maybe the docs are finally figuring out that the children really needed it. :)

sarahsweets
08-16-15, 09:02 PM
pfft! The Daily mail.

KarmanMonkey
08-18-15, 04:03 PM
Hmm... Prescription rates double. Without reading the article, I can give multiple reasons:

1) Fewer people falling through the cracks,
2) More treatment of ADD in adults,
3) Better understanding of ADD leading to more acceptance of exploring medication as a tool,
4) A resurgence of parents seeking Ritalin as a performance enhancer for their non-adhd child (it was an issue in Toronto 5-10 years ago; parents even buying Ritalin off the street for their non-adhd child)
5) Pressure from schools/teachers/etc for parents to medicate "problem" children, or
6) The classroom environment cannot compete with the high-stimulus lifestyle/culture created by the recent technological developments, resulting in a lot of stimulus-seeking behaviour resembling ADHD in the classroom, leading to a misdiagnosis.

Of course, these are 6 of probably a thousand different reasons I could come up with if I had the patience or the time :-)

Fuzzy12
08-18-15, 04:09 PM
It's the daily mail. they wouldn't have any qualms writing an article about how ritalin users have doubled in a decade based on a study that shows that ritalin users have halved in a decade. Or a study showing that smart phone users have doubled in a decade. Or a study showing that infant rats prefer chocolate that is made out of cocoa rather than petrol..:rolleyes:

Flory
08-18-15, 04:22 PM
Daily mail ughhhhhhhhh

KarmanMonkey
08-18-15, 04:22 PM
It's the daily mail. they wouldn't have any qualms writing an article about how ritalin users have doubled in a decade based on a study that shows that ritalin users have halved in a decade. Or a study showing that smart phone users have doubled in a decade. Or a study showing that infant rats prefer chocolate that is made out of cocoa rather than petrol..:rolleyes:

Or reporting a satirical web article pointing out the pitfalls of sensationalist media (see the #1 on the list in this article: http://www.cracked.com/article_20927_5-ridiculous-things-media-blamed-video-games-for.html)

The modern media is scary in the faith people have in its "truth".

I still remember an ex telling me about being in Seoul one day, and a couple guys throw some bricks through a window, and the cops come and arrest them. She gets home that night and CNN is reporting on a "riot" in downtown Seoul, and was running footage of fires, tear gas, cops in riot gear... Listening to the words that were used in the report, it was definitely the incident she had seen, and the words were accurate reporting, but the footage was obviously file footage from some other riot, possibly because the incident was resolved before someone could film it, or the footage was too boring for CNN.

dvdnvwls
08-18-15, 09:13 PM
The really sensationalistic point of the statistic (if one wants to be Daily-Mail style sensationalistic) is just how horribly backward and uneducated UK doctors in this field were a decade ago. It's not like they've been pressing for other types of treatment or publishing their own solutions.

SB_UK
08-19-15, 03:31 AM
It makes sense that the UK - with extremely high population densities, unhappiness, inequality, violent competition - reports an increase in ADD levels.

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Most simply - managable distress (ie that doesn't kill you and which doesn't prevent you from having children) inherited epigenetically - driving selection of progeny more capable of handling stress - resulting (upon chronic selection) in evolution of something new.
Our key stressor is overpopulation of a world with limited resources.

Prompting shift in the 'genomic' reward system (wired into procreation and acquisition of resources) into the 'neural' reward system (wired into individual quality via cerebellar learning) via learning ... ... which is why we've witnessed the emergence of a type -
ADD
- which is 'neural' reward system adapted.

Sole problem - don't confuse 'neural' reward system adapted as capacity for 'autism' like excellence in highly abstract processes ... ... quality comes in many flavours - and the key factor in destroying quality is the generation of overly complex systems which other people can't personally shape (because they don't understand them) -

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So - ADD on the rise - as a consequence of distress driven selection for a type which isn't reward oriented to create the same distress which resulted in their emergence - a mechanism for permitting continued survival of the species.

Areas of highest levels of managable distress - as areas of greatest selection for ADHD.

Just a mechanism (the virus has it at the level of genomic re-arrangement eg HIV spontaneously selects for strains which're resistant to retroviral therapies when exposed to them) for ensuring survival in the presence of distress.

Today's news story.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/19/english-children-among-unhappiest-world-widespread-bullying
Violence and poor relationships with teachers puts English children 14th out of 15 countries surveyed for happiness at school as charity calls for actionNoting
An estimated half a million 10- and 12-year-olds are physically bullied at school .. ... Note - ADDer kids (sensitive) - particularly those with systematizing cortical maturation delays are extremely likely to be bullied - behaviour which stands our, apparently dim-witted (compared to age-matched fellow pupils) and incapacity to fight back (challenges our reward system - we're not inbuilt competitive).

Also - note comparison between increasing bullying rates in children and ... ... fighting amongst rats - where competitive (for food in rats, for 'status' in children!) practices results in fighting in rats and fighting/bullying in children.
eg http://awionline.org/pubs/cq02/Cq-rats.html

Humans are animals until human beings acquire wisdom.
In a properly social environment children making their journey to wisdom will act as though they're wise ... ...
But place human beings in an adverse, competitive environment - and children will regress towards animalistic behaviour ... ... which is what we're seeing in the UK currently.

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Summarising
In the Western world - regions characterized by exposure to highest levels of managable stress (competition for food, money, housing, space to live, mates etc) will see largest increases in ADD incidence; it's the selection pressure which drives our emergence.