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SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:02 AM
Excellent primer on psychopathy

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/reviews/meet-the-psychopaths-channel-5-tv-review-the-story-of-psycho-killer-joanna-dennehy-was-the-most-a6765616.html

Here's a list

http://www.counseling-office.com/surveys/test_psychopathy.phtml

I'm pretty sure that ADDers will score zero.

And therein lies the nature of ADHD.

Enforcedly social.

What worries me - is that I see children with those types of qualities.

The clear next thought is that we can either live in a soceity which stops of allows children to grow up.

We currently live in a society where children who do not acquire a social conscience are at an advantage ie the ability for a salesman to lie to 'get' the contract.

In the progeam - the Imperial College psych professor even mentioned that one of the psychopaths he knew switched and was successful as a used car salesman.

The point I'm making is that the society we're in selects for psychopaths - and that psychopathy is a childhood (immature mind) quality - which we're meant to lose with 'learning' - but where, through immoral learning schemes ie acquisition of systems of knowledge without any bearing on morality

- we travel in the opposite direction.

The object is to

'get wiser not just older'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezA2NkzJ6w4

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:07 AM
One other clear observation.

Obvious that 'thrill seeking' <- addictive reward scheme is operative in psychopaths ie an escalating (Addictive) need for reward fed by the need for stimulation (cf ADDers where we discuss this frequently) -

- simple solution - then -

identical to the solution described over and over, to date.

Addictive reward system -> wisdom -> Overcome addictive reward system

ie the human mind when formed lifts the individual over the threshold, a point at which the thrill seeking, addictive reward system activation propensity is left behind.

Overall - social dysfunction - inequality - inability for children to acquire morality - grow addicted to 'thrill seeking' - child mind spirals downwards -
child gets older, addicted to thrill seeking and DEFINITELY not wiser

-- the psychopath emerges.

Selection by societal structure.

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:10 AM
Summarising

The psychopath would not arise in a decent society in which the EMP,SEN,SYS (see IQ thread) reward systems are ALL activated.
The psychpath (addictive psychopathic reward system) is simply a product of our current social environment.
The psychopath is the child that doesn't grow a mind.
Addictive stimulation/thrill-seeking escalates from petty crime into murder and worse.
Ther problem with needing stimulation ie not transcending the 'need for speed' is that it's addictive - neurotranmitter tolerance kicks in - the psychopath needs to do more 'thrill-seeking' behaviours to get their hit, just as a hard drug addict needs to take more and more of their agent or a salesman needs to generate more and more victims (customers) from their snake oil.

MONEY is the snake oil which makes all of this possible.

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:14 AM
Imagine what an individual with zero psychopathic index would do in a society where only psychopaths (lawyers, bankers, salesmen, politicians, CEOs) rule.

DISTRESS.

And there is the disorder which dexedrine helps to correct.

ADDer sensitivity - to quality in SYS and EMP and SEN reward schemes.
ADDer distress - incapacity to attain quality in (SYS and EMP and SEN) reward schemes - since we live in a world where you're meant to 'kill' thy neighbour.

Kill or be killed - which is a problem for the ADDer - because we choose 'be killed' ... ... can't pay attention to 'k ... ... money' .... ...

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:24 AM
From that list - the key quality appears to be - the psychopath is wholly self-oriented and has a high self-esteem, desiring to be the centre of attention.

The ADDer can't be the centre of attention - because the ADDer can see that even if the ADDer were the best at everything - there's still better possible in everything ie being better than any other person is neither here nor there.

The reward is actually in becoming personally better - being better than other people is neither here nor there - in fact having somebody better to help us improve is preferred.

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:51 AM
The point of education

From psychopathic Imperial tendencies to wise University College (just a short cycle ride away)

From knowledge to wisdom (https://www.ucl.ac.uk/from-knowledge-to-wisdom/thebasicargument)

All that's required is that we put in place a cycle path in between the two - and not a cycling superhighway in completely the opposite direction.

SB_UK
12-09-15, 10:57 AM
From that list - the key quality appears to be - the psychopath is wholly self-oriented and has a high self-esteem, desiring to be the centre of attention.


tortured <- psychopath <- current society * <- child -> education of SYS AND EMP AND SEN ** -> wisdom -> happy

* - DRIVEN BY MONEY
** - only possible in global voluntaryism

The goal is to do 'things' because we want to enjoy the reward of contributing and ABSOLUTELY NOT because we want to take.
The culmination of enjoying 'giving' is freedom from the addictive reward system ('taking') - and one reaches a place where one CANNOT 'take' ie it (taking) switches from addictively alluring to aversive.

So - one's own attitude to needing to take is a metric of where one finds oneself on the path to wisdom.

Upon attaining wisdom - you lose the materialistic desire and are free.
It's the root of materialism which we're imprisoned by.

This is referenced by the saying - the 'love/desire' of money - though it's manifest in the love/desire of power, self etc also ie it extends beyond money and represents a reward system which must be transcended if the individual desires to begin living life.

'Yur walkin ded until yur wise'

SB_UK
12-09-15, 02:15 PM
tortured <- psychopath <- current society * <- child -> education of SYS AND EMP AND SEN ** -> wisdom -> happy



Finally - AUTONOMY MASTERY PURPOSE
-> what actually motivates people (in ANY task involving creativity (<-intelligence))
(Fed Reserve funded research)

AUTONOMY MASTERY PURPOSE
=
To become better at something worth becoming better at
by
education of SYS AND EMP AND SEN ** -> wisdom -> happy

ie application of the systematizing, empathizing, sensory reward systems at the same time

- allows the individual to become individually better (of higher quality) at something worth becoming (socially beneficial) better at.

<- development of mind in this way -

-- we note the generation of intelligence
and the expression of intelligence -> representing the definition of creativity.

Game over.

When society's broken, human beings break.
When human beings break, society is broken.

SB_UK
12-09-15, 02:32 PM
The culmination of enjoying 'giving' is freedom from the addictive reward system ('taking') - and one reaches a place where one CANNOT 'take' ie it (taking) switches from addictively alluring to aversive.

I decree today that life
Is simply taking and not giving (http://genius.com/8270310)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9RxJNUOI8Q

SB_UK
12-09-15, 02:36 PM
The culmination of enjoying 'giving' is freedom from the addictive reward system ('taking') - and one reaches a place where one CANNOT 'take' ie it (taking) switches from addictively alluring to aversive.

And the sun doesn't give light to the moon assuming
The moon’s gonna owe it one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcOoW9QgH4

Abi
12-09-15, 08:19 PM
Thread closed for staff review.

Abi
12-13-15, 09:41 PM
Thread reopened.

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