View Full Version : Depression..Does treatment actually work???


traze23
01-10-16, 06:14 PM
I've had depression for 20 years, mainly bought on by my struggles in school when I was younger(later diagnosed w/ ADD). I also have a terrible relationship w/ my parents but still live with them because I can't find a job. A few years ago, I was on my parents insurance and tried to get some help but it NEVER WORKED!

I went to get tested for ADD and tried adderall and somethings else I forgot but it didn't do a thing for my attention except give me side effects. Then I tried treating the depression w/ Prozac and that did nothing. He tried another medication for the depression also and that did not work. At the same time I was seeing a counselor and he was terrible; he expected everything to be okay after I sit down and talk about my issues for 30 minutes. He didn't really give me advice or anything, maybe my expectations were to high.

Today, I'm out of a job and my unemployment has run out. My depression has gotten much worse, the relationship w/ my father has gotten more worse. The good thing is I can go on medicaid and seek help which I still need since I have no source of income. The bad thing, I'm scared to death I'm going to run out of money I saved and have to relay on my parents more for like gas and food.

Despite issues w/ my parents, atleast I don't have to worry about rent for now. My question: I want to try to find help somewhere but does it work and cure depression??? Or is it just a band aid?

DJ Bill
01-10-16, 06:29 PM
If you get signed up for Medicaid you will at least be able to see some docs again....You'll need it anyway if you do not have insurance. Here in NY it was pretty easy to sign up.

I have felt like you before, have tried all sorts of things, light treatment, cognitive therapy, several different medications. Right now I am feeling great! :D:DMaybe, after 30 years of band aids, I hit a combination of things that work. Sertaline and Generic Welbutrin. Trazadone to sleep..And a 12 step program. However.....

The best thing I have found that always works for me is to get outside in the sun and do something. Whether it is taking a bike ride, walking, or chopping wood, working up a sweat seems to be my drug of choice to combat depression. It is hard to get started on a program of exercise but once I got on a roll it is hard NOT to. It would be worth a try.
I used to go snowboarding in the winter and that would help get my moods up for a couple of days. I haven't got up the courage to try again as it has been almost a decade..:eek:

Keep trying, something will work eventually....just don't isolate yourself and do nothing....I tried that too and it sure didn't help things at all....;)

dvdnvwls
01-10-16, 07:54 PM
Sometimes, depression is internal and not caused by anything except your own body. Treatment really works, for a lot of people, when it's that kind.

Other times, depression comes from being in a bad situation. Treatment for that is much less successful; when you're in that type of bad situation, you have to get out of the bad situation first.

A person can have both at the same time.

I hope things work out well for you in getting out of this depression, whichever kind it is.

aeon
01-11-16, 01:02 AM
Meds have helped me, but more than anything, exercise has greatly helped my mood.

That said, the amount of exercise needed for me is quite a lot to have that effect.


Cheers,
Ian

sarahsweets
01-11-16, 05:25 AM
A thorough evaluation is what will help you determine what kind of depression you have, clinical, or situational. Like dvd said, if its not clinical then you have to change the environment you live in.

Unmanagable
01-11-16, 11:11 AM
If the professionals you seek out are able to competently and accurately diagnose your symptoms based on a thorough sharing of information from you (I'd put my symptoms and what I wish to discuss in writing, each visit, and have a copy for you and for the doc to read along with and take notes on), then you will likely experience much relief in the treatments they prescribe as they work closely with you and monitor your progress.

I wasn't fortunate enough to find such accuracy, effective listening, or sincere regard in my earliest pursuits among several different professionals, and suffered a great deal in medication trials, failed attempts at talk therapies, etc. for misdiagnosed severe depression, for a time period of about 2 years.

Finally happening upon a therapist who fully recognized the adhd, and later on recognizing and acknowledging the ptsd from repeated and endured abuse of many forms, brought about treatment opportunities that led to discovering what it was like to function again.

I finally felt able to seek multiple therapeutic routes to address the untreated ptsd injuries, adhd, and the other stack of diagnoses I'd been handed through the last several years by the buffet of doctors and other specialists I frantically and desperately sought out for help. The medication experience after being correctly diagnosed was a life saver, indeed.

I no longer take meds due to my extreme sensitivities to the side effects, but had it not been for finding the right combination when I did, I likely wouldn't be around to have tried any other methods.

I feel it was worth the struggle, and although it pains me to know the extent of the suffering in others trying to find their combinations, the pain of never discovering ANY relief of any kind pains me even more.

traze23
01-12-16, 01:14 AM
Sometimes, depression is internal and not caused by anything except your own body. Treatment really works, for a lot of people, when it's that kind.

Other times, depression comes from being in a bad situation. Treatment for that is much less successful; when you're in that type of bad situation, you have to get out of the bad situation first.

A person can have both at the same time.

I hope things work out well for you in getting out of this depression, whichever kind it is.

As hard it is for me to accept, your second paragraph is spot on b/c I am in a bad situation. I live with my parents and there is a lot of tension but things are worse w/ my dad. He is stubborn, doesn't listen, VERY COMPULSIVE and overall hard person to deal with. But you know what, I can't find a job and my unemployment benefits have run out, I have $30,000 in student loans due, I'm having health problems even though I'm in my 20s, I have no friends, I have no life, I feel like I have nothing and things are getting worse.

If this isn't bad enough, me and many others get to grow up in the worst recession in US history. Here in WI, the state is losing jobs like crazy to other countries and states. Every time I turn on the news or read the paper, in the last three years, there is a story about a job moving. IT'S AWFUL HERE! This is happening when we're supposedly recovering from the recession.

So, why would my dad start listening to me or stop making me so angry? Why in the world would he change for me when he doesn't need to? He sees the problems I'm having and realizes he has all the advantage in the world. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! But where am I going to go....a shelter or maybe on the streets in sub freezing temperatures? Maybe I shouldn't say this b/c that could be the case once they are gone. I think about these things a lot and am very afraid of the future.

All the fighting, arguing, bitterness is taking a toll on my health. This is also something that concerns me especially down the road. I wish there was a button that I could push so he can stop pushing my buttons and making me angry.

dvdnvwls
01-12-16, 01:25 AM
Is there any place you can move? I mean, away from your dad? I'm not sure what meanings that could have in your case... but it's something you have to consider.

Twiggy
01-12-16, 08:09 AM
My parents are like your dad but doubled and I also have no job nor money.

I'm in the exact situation as you. Just ignore all the negativity and have time to relax outside WITHOUT looking at any electronics.

Get your mind thinking about positive things. Clear your mind of any negative thoughts.

Employment: check:
Indeed (dot) com for a job in your area.

I hope you will feel better soon.

Pilgrim
01-12-16, 10:40 AM
My 2 cents. Train ,train, train. Stay away from your Dad. As much as you can. He won't enjoy this.
I don't know WI but I think getting jobs all over the world isn't easy, I'm always afraid of mine.
Anti depressants did nothing for me the only thing that worked was a good dr that just seemed to get my problem.
Staying away from negativity is a must in this situation not easy and it's an art.

sarahsweets
01-12-16, 11:38 AM
So, why would my dad start listening to me or stop making me so angry? Why in the world would he change for me when he doesn't need to?
This is your main issue. We CANT change anyone no matter if we feel justified in doing so, or if the person is actually wrong. We can only change ourselves and our circumstances.

He sees the problems I'm having and realizes he has all the advantage in the world. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! But where am I going to go....a shelter or maybe on the streets in sub freezing temperatures? Maybe I shouldn't say this b/c that could be the case once they are gone. I think about these things a lot and am very afraid of the future.

Because you have nowhere to go, maybe changing just you, on the inside can help. Changing the way you react to him, not giving what he says any power. Its really hard to fight with someone if one person will not fight back.

All the fighting, arguing, bitterness is taking a toll on my health. This is also something that concerns me especially down the road. I wish there was a button that I could push so he can stop pushing my buttons and making me angry.

This is what I mean. If he is pushing your buttons its because you are letting him. You are giving validity to whatever it is that he is saying or doing. And I am not trying to act like any of this is easy. It took a good while for me to learn not to let people's sh*t affect me. To not let there argumentative, nasty personalities have the power to affect my mood.
My motto?
If they dont like me for who I am, they can go f**k themselves.

traze23
01-13-16, 12:31 AM
Is there any place you can move? I mean, away from your dad? I'm not sure what meanings that could have in your case... but it's something you have to consider.

Unfortunately, there isn't. I actually called the local rent assistance program and they said they have a waiting list with a thousand people on it and stopped taking names.

I'm going to aggressively look for a new permanent job; my goal is to fill out 50 applications a day. Then hopefully I can get an apartment with a mortgage and pay it off. hopefully that doesn't have a real state tax. Seems like a long shot but I guess a man can hope.

dvdnvwls
01-13-16, 01:17 AM
Filling out applications is good but try to focus your efforts on places that are actually looking for someone, if you can.

Even if you can live with some friend for a while... I don't know. I realize that this is crazy and impossible. The problem is that living with your dad is equally crazy and equally impossible.

DJ Bill
01-13-16, 09:43 AM
You should be able to get a hardship deferral on those student loans if you haven't already..

I feel for you man....Wisconsin this time of year is bad enough without being unemployed. Good luck on your searching.