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They said if I'm still continuing using marijuana that they will stop treating me within 2 months, I guess the docs gave up on me lol, same like all doctors, people who know how to read a text book but not people, explain that to the board.
Oh well, I'm not quiting something that saved my life, and if they want to stop treating me, that's cool, this time I"ll look for a doctor who knows at least a little bit about ADHD and stop putting Bi-Polar in my mind all the time. If I knew where to get Adderall, I wouldn't be seeing any doctor.
T-Bass :eyebrow:
Sc@tterBr@in_UK 05-05-05, 10:41 AM SOrry to say but taking an illegal substance that has been shown to worsen ADHD and moodswings sure sounds like a great way to mess yourself up and I don't see why any doctor should continue treating you and prescribing you drugs if you insist on continuing to abuse drugs.
You can't imagine the mess I was before drugs, and also just cause weed is illegal doesn't mean anything to me, I smoke in the open, parking lot of my job, my world, this is the only thing in the world that makes me happy. I don't know a single person that doesn't smoke weed, who are these people kidding, 30 percent of the world smokes, the people who don't smoke, are normally the people who don't understand, or can't handle it, if weed doesn't effect your job, life, & family, there is no problem, plus I live with serious aniexty, so I"m self medicating that part, I can easliy lie to the doctor saying I don't smoke, and pass any drug test they give me, but I choose to tell the truth, but now looks like I have to turn this into a lie.
If I give up weed, I'm basically giving up my future dreams, my friends, and the life I want, cause I know weed is helping me get there, and when I"m there, weed will not be needed as much and will decrease over time. And plus I deal with stupid people all day, and weed helps me drop to their level so I can solve the problem better.
T-Bass
JimboOmega 05-05-05, 12:16 PM I'm one of the rare variety that has never done drugs but also thinks they should be legal. Forget peer pressure - I've never even seen anything more illegal than a keg at a party with some underage people. But I agree if it's not causing you to do anything else illegal, who cares. That's just me, though.
That being said most doctors are afraid to treat ADD symptoms in people with drug problems because there is a high potential for them to abuse stimulant medications too. It's not just a matter of law but a matter of them being afraid of abuse and misuse.
It sounds to me (rather clearly) that you are self-medicating for anxiety. You said so yourself. Have you ever thought about asking your doctor about anti-anxiety drugs, and trying these instead of weed?
As a former pothead I can relate, it can be a comfortable place to be. Still, dope will never help you accomplish anything in your life....future dreams?..pot won't help you get there. At some point you will see this.
the people who don't smoke, are normally the people who don't understand, or can't handle it
I've never known anyone to use that as a reason to not take drugs,the most common opinion on those who do not take illegals(inc. myself)that I have personally seen and been told,is because we feel we do not need the illegals to do whatever,it's unfair to suggest non illegals users usually can't handle them,or don't understand those who choose to take them.
I've never felt the need to take class As/Bs/Cs but wouldn't stop anyone from making their own choice,of doing just that.
Cannabis has been shown to bring on mental illnesses,and in light of new evidence,the UK government are considering making it a class B again,in fact they will do if labour gets in power again tonight.
People who are clinically obese and want a stomach stapling operation,have to show they can lose weight before they get the operation,so I don't see why it should be any different with ADHD,if you are unwilling to make the sacrifice of giving up cannabis,medics will not want to make the effort with you.
They might see treating you with Aderall as pointless because of cannabis' long term side effects.
As a former pothead I can relate, it can be a comfortable place to be. Still, dope will never help you accomplish anything in your life....future dreams?..pot won't help you get there. At some point you will see this.
When that point in my life comes, where I see the halt, by then, hopefully I wouldn't be smoking as much, can't give up for good, will always smoke, goal is not to be dependant on it.
I asked the doctor plenty of times that I want to stop smoking and if they can supplment with something else. They don't want to give zanax, adivan, or any med that helps anxiety, I got these on the street, and if I had it, I wouldn't smoke, they think it's probably cause of the weed that I have anxity, I went 24 years of my life without doing drugs, smoking anything, maybe if I did that, I would of finished school and did something with my life, cause I wasn't ever able to think for myself until I started smoking, I finally have control over what I do, decisions I make cause of smoking, doctors want to put me on a mood stablizer, till then, I smoke, if doctor doesn't want to treat me, oh well, it's their loss.
T-Bass
crankytexan 05-06-05, 10:51 AM Look, I understand what you are saying...I am one who does not use illegal drugs, never have, never will. They should be legal and controlled by government taxation just like cigarettes. This argument is for another place.
The issue with pot is that you are inhaling a substance that has more tar then cigarettes. Casual use of this substance would not do too much harm, but smoking it 3 times a day for everyday will cause damage to your lungs. Every drug has side effects, just understand that it may help you some, but is lung cancer or throat cancer really worth that?
f_wcomboadhd 05-06-05, 06:03 PM i've read of some recent research that marijauna 'causes mental illness'
but doesn't this just sound like reefer madness or what?
if we're going to sit here and pontificate and debate about efficacy of adhd meds, scruples and ambition , hear this:
first of all everything i've seen that declares that sweet mary jane screws ppl always has the issue of cause vs. effect.
the last article i've seen was absolutely unconvincing. soooo a bunch of ppl that smoke pot at the age of 12 range end up with 20 to 30 % more mental illness than those that started later or not at all......but it seems they didn't bother to ask nor test whether ppl that had mental illness to begin with were perhaps tempted to self medicate because of said mental illness.
i can't believe ppl with advanced medical degrees can't logicate their brains around this one.
(just so you know logicate > the spelling is a reflection of my disdain for shoddy science)
anyway i'm no expert for sure. i would never try to come off as one. weed can definitely slow your ambition down-
but i know for a fact that i've just restarted taking it b/c it helps me CALM DOWN. i'm super tense to the level that my freaking shoulders are creaking like a taut wire ok? i'm a super pensive intense person. adderall helps me work and being super taut on wellbutrin and adderall has exacerbated my tension/anxiety issues predictably.
weed is an appropiate counterbalance.
i hate the fact that so many ppl debate the legal aspect of weed. doesn't anyone have a brain out there??? HELLO
there was weed before law. if you read the history of how weed was isolated as a drug to be rid of you'll find your answers. i'm glad i don't take the 'law' as a guide for morality and life b/c it just isn't. duh. some laws are great, some laws are lame and unworthy of instigating. please try to look at this critically.
if it were the case that weed is so absolutely horrible to society::: lets ban alchohol. but we all know what happened the last time we did that in the US right?
it led to the rise of organized crime in america and the IRS. both institutions i despise.
there's my two cents.
meadd823 05-07-05, 11:56 PM They said if I'm still continuing using marijuana that they will stop treating me within 2 months
I am not going to give an opnion of weather or not you should quit smoking weed as you have already made up your mind about that. I am going to add a bit "medical" prespective here.
When you go see your doctor and say I do weed this has to be recorded on your medical record. Accurate medical records are a must for the health care profession. He probaby felt your pot "habbit" was important enough to note for treatment tracking purposes. He may have gone ahead and treated your ADD hoping that getting the proper medication would allow you stop "self medicating"
When you failed to stop smoking pot it put the doctor in a sticky wicket. Adderall is a schudule two medication and is tracked by the DEA. That is why it is a triplicate prescription. The DEA tracks these drugs as well as the doctors who prescribe them. A variety of reasons can cause your doctor to get "audited" by the DEA, or other health care authorities.
During this type of audit patient reconds are pulled by the authorities and read. Should your doctor get caught prescribing potientially addictive drug to a patient who refused to stop using illegal drugs could cause your doctor significant professional damange including but not limited to removal of his license to practice medicine.
Had he had a real moral problem with pot I do not believe he would have prescribed you any thing to begin with. He not only perscribed you medication he has given you two months "warning". In other words he may not be threating to stop treating you because of moral issues surrounding the use of pot. He more than likely is threatening to stop treating your ADD because he fears loosing his own license. It is a legal/professional issue for him.
Hope this gives you some enlightenment!!!!!
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