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3LMom30
03-02-16, 10:41 AM
My 11yr old son has ADHD(impulsivity), only takes Adderall XR on school days. He was doing good and wanted to try a lower dose, he has been on 10mg since the 1st of the year.
He hates some of the kids in his class, gotten into a couple fights that were instigated by others at recess. Easily annoyed. It seems about 3 days a month he is super emotional, crying, talking back. Wishes he was dead, never born. He had these moments before on the higher dose but usually just lasted a 1-2 days. He hates taking the meds, its a fight every morning, he just about pukes because of the size, we've tried applesauce, pudding, yogurt.
He says the high meds make his stomach hurt, he's not hungry. Will not take meds in the middle of the day so we need something that is long lasting.
He is so unhappy. He didn't like the therapist he seen when diagnosed 3 yrs ago, and I don't blame him. Doesn't want to see a different one.

Other days he is this happy out going boy. Loves to talk to adults, doesn't really have any close friends. Just went to High school sporting event for 3 days, no meds and was around a ton of people and had no problem. The teacher says he is doing fine in class, it's just these 2 little incidents at recess. He blames all of this on me because I make him take the meds.

Any words of advice...I want my happy little boy back.

ginniebean
03-02-16, 12:40 PM
My 11yr old son has ADHD(impulsivity), only takes Adderall XR on school days. He was doing good and wanted to try a lower dose, he has been on 10mg since the 1st of the year.
He hates some of the kids in his class, gotten into a couple fights that were instigated by others at recess. Easily annoyed. It seems about 3 days a month he is super emotional, crying, talking back. Wishes he was dead, never born. He had these moments before on the higher dose but usually just lasted a 1-2 days. He hates taking the meds, its a fight every morning, he just about pukes because of the size, we've tried applesauce, pudding, yogurt.
He says the high meds make his stomach hurt, he's not hungry. Will not take meds in the middle of the day so we need something that is long lasting.
He is so unhappy. He didn't like the therapist he seen when diagnosed 3 yrs ago, and I don't blame him. Doesn't want to see a different one.

Other days he is this happy out going boy. Loves to talk to adults, doesn't really have any close friends. Just went to High school sporting event for 3 days, no meds and was around a ton of people and had no problem. The teacher says he is doing fine in class, it's just these 2 little incidents at recess. He blames all of this on me because I make him take the meds.

Any words of advice...I want my happy little boy back.

I'm sorry you're going thru this.

Impulsivity is hard to treat with any med, from the anecdotal information on here even adults find little help with meds for impulsivity.

I think you really need to consider that he's not on the right meds

I'd consider finding another doctor who specializes in adhd, the mood swings, the pill sizes, his social difficulties. These should be being managed.

Given his reaction to the meds it almost sounds like his dose may be too high his morning one.

I know you may not want to consider this but the social problems he's having need treatment, it's not enough to just medicate for academics. In this world, if your social skills suck it affects your job, it affects your success in huge ways. If no one at work likes you, you'll pay for that.

He needs meds for when he's socializing after school and weekends. It's so easy to downplay how devastating adhd can be, the early years are only the beginning and what happens then sets the stage for the whole life.

He may need a med change, adderal can make people moody, and it may not be the right fit. I mention going to a specialist because they'll be able to work with you, and it may take several visits to get the doseage just right.

Your son sounds like he's experiencing some unpleasant side effects. He doesn't need to, he can get proper treatment and feel ok.

I hope everything works out

sarahsweets
03-02-16, 01:59 PM
My 11yr old son has ADHD(impulsivity), only takes Adderall XR on school days. He was doing good and wanted to try a lower dose, he has been on 10mg since the 1st of the year.
Well since adhd is a 24/7 thing why wouldnt you medicated him for all areas of his life?

He hates some of the kids in his class, gotten into a couple fights that were instigated by others at recess. Easily annoyed. It seems about 3 days a month he is super emotional, crying, talking back. Wishes he was dead, never born. He had these moments before on the higher dose but usually just lasted a 1-2 days. He hates taking the meds, its a fight every morning, he just about pukes because of the size, we've tried applesauce, pudding, yogurt.
Some of this could be hormones. Some of it could be that its the wrong med. 10mg isnt that high so my guess is he needs a different med. Why do you think he is so against medication?

He says the high meds make his stomach hurt, he's not hungry. Will not take meds in the middle of the day so we need something that is long lasting.
Well, the meds are not at a high dose, why does he think that?

He is so unhappy. He didn't like the therapist he seen when diagnosed 3 yrs ago, and I don't blame him. Doesn't want to see a different one.
This is where he shouldnt get a choice. He needs therapy to deal with the social issues of adhd. It doesnt matter if he says he doesnt want to, he needs to.

He blames all of this on me because I make him take the meds.

Any words of advice...I want my happy little boy back.

I am really concerned that he is so focused on the medication as a negative thing and blaming you for making him take it. Has anyone talked about adhd meds in a negative way around him? For an 11 year old to blame his mother and medication, it makes me think he has heard something about this from somewhere.

CanadianDad
03-02-16, 08:54 PM
Has anyone talked about adhd meds in a negative way around him? For an 11 year old to blame his mother and medication, it makes me think he has heard something about this from somewhere.

This. Sound like he's been hearing some negative comments about Meds or maybe even ADHD being fake from someone.

Caco3girl
03-03-16, 12:25 PM
You said he only takes the meds for school, what's he like off the meds? How is his impulsivity?

You said he just went to a 3 day event off his meds and there were no problems...did that surprise you, or were you expecting it to go okay?

It does sound like he could use someone to talk to about his 2-3 day monthly issues. Perhaps it is hormonal and has nothing to do with the medication. Then again since he hasn't been looked at since he was 8 maybe the medication is no longer okay for him. Have you thought about interviewing new therapists for him? Maybe if you prescreened their personalities first you could find on that might suit him well.

3LMom30
03-04-16, 10:24 AM
As far as I know, no one has said anything negative about his meds. He doesn't want anyone to know. He feels they will think he is stupid.

His 3 day event - didn't think there would be a problem. Even got a compliment on how good he was. On weekends and during the summer, he might need little direction but he is overall a great kid.

Majority of the impulsivity comes from someone annoying or instigating something. He has a hard time ignoring others that bother him and usually when something happens he is provoked. He needs to learn to walk away more.

We have an appointment with Peds today to see if she has any ideas, I'm thinking his hormones. His mood has improved in the last day and I can get a smile out of him.

excelsior
03-04-16, 04:31 PM
Make trax to his doctor and tell him/her what's going on. I'm sure the doc will be happy for the feedback and decide if it's time to adjust, or change medications. '3lmom30, I'm glad you came to me with this! Let's try...'

If he seems unbending, or like he doesn't care...

Remember, he works for you. find someone else.

Caco3girl
03-07-16, 08:58 AM
As far as I know, no one has said anything negative about his meds. He doesn't want anyone to know. He feels they will think he is stupid.

His 3 day event - didn't think there would be a problem. Even got a compliment on how good he was. On weekends and during the summer, he might need little direction but he is overall a great kid.

Majority of the impulsivity comes from someone annoying or instigating something. He has a hard time ignoring others that bother him and usually when something happens he is provoked. He needs to learn to walk away more.

We have an appointment with Peds today to see if she has any ideas, I'm thinking his hormones. His mood has improved in the last day and I can get a smile out of him.

How did it go?

3LMom30
03-07-16, 11:46 AM
We are going to try Focalin 10 mg for a month and see how it goes. My biggest concern was his mood and he needs to keep telling himself to walk away from other kids that instigate stuff.

Caco3girl
03-07-16, 04:06 PM
We are going to try Focalin 10 mg for a month and see how it goes. My biggest concern was his mood and he needs to keep telling himself to walk away from other kids that instigate stuff.

Glad you have another option. Has the school said that his behavior is abnormal as compared to others his age with regard to being able to walk away?