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Nucking_Futs
05-17-05, 10:44 AM
I am sure that a lot of you will remember over the past three weeks I have had one sick child after another. All three with fevers from 100 to 105 degrees. Koda missed an entire week of school two weeks ago due to his temp ranging from 103-105 and that is after getting tylenol every four hours with Advil given every eight hours. The virus hit his chest hard and he had to start taking nebulizer treatments and using his inhaler again, something he hasn't had to do since he was 4 years old.

His first day back to school last week I got a note from his science teacher asking if I would mind sending Dakota's nebulizer and inhaler to school and she would ensure he was given a prn dose after lunch since she noticed that he is extremely short of breath and cannot keep up with the other kids going up and down the stairs to classes. Since her son is asthmatic and the same age as Koda meaning he gets the same doses only on a regular basis I was more then comfortable allowing her to give Koda his meds on a PRN basis. She knew the signs of trouble and when to and not to administer the meds, was able to answer questions concerning the meds and equipment as quick as I could fire them off at her.

The second day of school was track and field day where the kids train for your normal track events; high jump, running events, long jump, etc. The school invites two other schools to compete with the children. It really is a fun event; but, I ran into a little trouble with the PE teacher when I told him that Koda was not to participate in the running events he had signed up for which were the 200 and 400 meter dash. He could participate in the long jump and high jump unless he became short of breath then he would have to sit the day out.

The PE teacher kinda scoffed at this idea until I went and spoke with the principal taking with me Koda's science teacher who went on to describe how he still has difficulty with losing his breath just walking two flights of stairs. He agreed that Koda could sit out the entire day should I feel uncomfortable with his breathing difficulty. Since there were so many kids Koda was able to rest between each jump allowing him to complete and rank in his long jump, the high jump he had to skip the last jump due to getting a nebulizer tx.

I was on two antibiotics that warned about prolonged periods of time in the heat and sunlight. I had to leave shortly before the running events started. I found out yesterday that the PE teacher forced Koda to run his two track events or get an F. So, Koda not wanting to go against what I said and not wanting an F walked the two events which I guess made his PE teacher really angry since we received a note saying that Koda could not go to Champions next Monday due to an incomplete grade in PE. :confused:

I went and spoke to the school principal and PE teacher who both told me that in order to get a passing grade Dakota had to participate at his level. If anger had a noise it would be BAM!!!!! I went from upset to ****ed off in 2 seconds flat. This is an event that the kids look forward to every year Champions is a day of fun at a amusement park; go carts, water guns, water slides, games Koda was hysterical that he had to sit at school.

I came home and started looking up requirements and found a little known fact that kids in order to get a passing grade have to participate in practicing for sporting events but do NOT have to participate in interscholactic events. In other words koda has to participate in PE but does not have to participate in any event involving another school unless he chooses, not only does he not have to participate but they are only allowed 12 events a year, my son has participated in 16 events with other schools this year alone. I printed this information off and went back to the school this morning.

The principal caved quickly once he knew that I had proof my son had met the state requirements but had gone beyond the normal requirements for physical education. I also took with me the note from the science teacher about his difficulties breathing the day before the track meet and a signed note from his doctor stating that he never should have been forced to participate at all and that next time the school should listen to a mother's instincts. Now the PE teacher kept up with his imcomplete but was forced to change it when I threatened contacting the board of education with what has transpired and that if next years student handbook did not include in bold face writting what I found they would still hear from me.

Koda gets to go on the trip with his class. But, I'm still angry it should not have been such a battle. I'm not against making kids try new things and when my kids say they want to play they play whether they want to or not until the end of the season. But, forcing kids to do what they truly hate or something that leaves them open for bullying is not cool and I won't stand for it now that I know its not a state requirement.

Nucking_Futs
05-17-05, 10:49 AM
ps. I just want to clarify that had Koda gotten an incomplete in one of his scholastic classes I would have stood behind the teacher and inforced the punishment; but, he worked his butt off this year to get caught up and keep his grades at a B average or above.

This was a physical illness that kept him from participating at his full potential and should not have been held against him. :soapbox:

Digitl
05-17-05, 12:46 PM
YOu want to adopt me futs??

I am potty train, :rolleyes:
and my butt is in need for a bad mama to cover for it:p

Digitl
05-17-05, 12:47 PM
Serously, you rock girlfriend

yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww:)

Nucking_Futs
05-17-05, 01:06 PM
I just figured out a long time ago that my kids have rights too. And its my job to uphold them and make sure they are upheld just as much as its my job to raise responsible, law abiding individuals who can think for themselves.

Anyways, I did not let Lexi has a different PE teacher then Dakota but I worried she would fall into the same trouble since I did not let her do the running events either. But, her PE teacher told me she could go to Champions because she got an A for participation. Strange how differently two teachers in the same school distict think isn't it?

Nucking_Futs
05-17-05, 01:08 PM
YOu want to adopt me futs??

I am potty train, :rolleyes:
and my butt is in need for a bad mama to cover for it:p

Only if I can talk Doug out of his new puppy who ISN'T poddy trained. WEll, he is but he punishes me for leaving him alone with little terds distributed evenly through out the house. :mad: The really sad thing is the dog fits in here not that my kids leave terds through out the house but they do punish me by not picking up after themselves when I leave them to themselves for too long. :rolleyes:

Ichpuchtli
05-17-05, 04:55 PM
Go Nucking futs your an Insperation to us all I think well at least me. You can look after my life if you want it is a bit of a mess. I just love how determaned (spelling?) you are and how you do not give up at the first sign of failure. Go Girl yehaaaaaaaaaaaaa, go get 'em.

Johna
05-17-05, 08:11 PM
Nucking,
It's against the law for a teacher to give any medication to a student. Please tell me your son's science teacher didn't give him a breathing treatment. The only person could give your child a breathing treatment would be the SCHOOL NURSE.
The nebulizer and it's med are suppose to be kept in the nurse's office under lock and key.

Johna
05-17-05, 08:13 PM
Nucking does your son with asthma have a 504 plan? He would qualify for one under the american disability act of 1991.

Coral Rhedd
05-17-05, 09:01 PM
I was on two antibiotics that warned about prolonged periods of time in the heat and sunlight. I had to leave shortly before the running events started. I found out yesterday that the PE teacher forced Koda to run his two track events or get an F. So, Koda not wanting to go against what I said and not wanting an F walked the two events which I guess made his PE teacher really angry since we received a note saying that Koda could not go to Champions next Monday due to an incomplete grade in PE. :confused:

This guy was really out of line and he potentially put your son in danger. This indicates to me that he may be vindictive. I think he really bears watching.

The trouble is that children often won't tell parents when they become targets of this sort of abusive behavior by teachers.

Maybe you could quietly drop in on this class from time to time.

Wow. I am so impressed that you got all your ducks in a row when you were even sick.

Are you sure you have ADD? :D

Nucking_Futs
05-18-05, 02:12 PM
Nucking,
It's against the law for a teacher to give any medication to a student. Please tell me your son's science teacher didn't give him a breathing treatment. The only person could give your child a breathing treatment would be the SCHOOL NURSE.
The nebulizer and it's med are suppose to be kept in the nurse's office under lock and key.

We do not have a school nurse; well, we do but we share her with 4 other communities and the only time I'm even aware that she comes to the school is the annual eye and lice exams. If we want our children to receive a med we must sign a waver giving the school permmission for the teacher to administer it. I do know that it was kept locked up in her coat closet which only she had access to and I never would have given permission did she not have prior experiance. Are you sure this is a law for ALL states? I always worry about having them give meds to my kids I work in health care as a trained med passer and know how easy it is to make a serious and deadly mistake. Usually, I go up to the school and give my kids their meds if needed; but, I've been sick myself and Koda's school is 22 miles away. Now you have me wondering if there was supposed to be another option.

Nucking_Futs
05-18-05, 02:15 PM
Nucking does your son with asthma have a 504 plan? He would qualify for one under the american disability act of 1991.

Right now I'm not sure what your talking about. He used a nebulizer and inhaler as an infant/toddler but hasn't had to do either for so long. His doctor will look at him next week and evaluate him to see if we can dc the order for the nebulizer and inhaler. His doctor feels that the upper respiratory infection only irritated? his lungs but that he should be able to discontinue. Just in case would you please point me to the right research materials?

Nucking_Futs
05-18-05, 02:25 PM
This guy was really out of line and he potentially put your son in danger. This indicates to me that he may be vindictive. I think he really bears watching.Doug and I filed a formal complaint with the school board from what I understand it is not the first this year. I do not believe he will be back next year but do plan on watching him further if he is and Koda has been given study hall for the rest of the school year per his doctor's orders.

The trouble is that children often won't tell parents when they become targets of this sort of abusive behavior by teachers. After all the trouble last year with bullying I thought we had cleared up any misgivings he had about coming to us. We were definatly troubled by neither Koda nor Lexi telling us that he was forced to run...Lexi is such a snitch too. We talked to them and told Koda what could have happened should he have had a severe asthma attack and that he should have said my mom said "No talk to her" and we would have supported him no matter what.

Maybe you could quietly drop in on this class from time to time.

Wow. I am so impressed that you got all your ducks in a row when you were even sick. COLOR=Orange]Well, I did have the suggestion that I look up state guidelines from Koda's science teacher and Doug helped me find the right information. I'm just the one who went to the school because I'm the one with all the ATTITUDE.[/COLOR]

Are you sure you have ADD? :D.Yes lol I am ADHD I just happen to have more experiance fighting for my kids' rights then I'd like to have. I've learned the hard way what works and what doesn't work.

We have are to be at the next school board meeting. Koda and Lexi have had some issues with teacher's in the past but nothing that could cause them physical damage I was a little loud this time but I don't feel what he did was forgivable.

Johna
05-18-05, 08:46 PM
Okay...not sure it's in all states only know for sure that in New Mexico, Texas. and Virginia a teacher can't even give a child cough drop.

Johna
05-18-05, 08:52 PM
Sorry my meds must have been wearing off when I did that post. A child who has asthma would qualify for a 504 plan. The Americans Act of 1991 is a law that protests people with chronic disease such asthma, diabetic, and I think add/adhd.
If your child is sick alot and misses school you might want to check into a team developing a 504.

webmd.com is a great site to learn about asthma. I have a nebulizer and use it as needed. I think it has helped keep me out of the hospital.

Nucking_Futs
05-19-05, 03:41 PM
Okay...not sure it's in all states only know for sure that in New Mexico, Texas. and Virginia a teacher can't even give a child cough drop.


I do find it strange that I have to be trained to pass meds and cannot give any med including tylenol unless I have a doctor's order; but, the school can give a med as long as your write your childs name on the bottle. And we had one issue were Koda called me from school scared because he thought he was going to die. The secretary gave him two adult Advil when he should only have one and he took the pills without thought until much later lol. After calling his pediatrician and poisen control we were told that he would be ok but to ensure the mistake didn't happen again I switched him to Children's ADvil that clearly states on the bottle he should get 5 tabs to ensure no more mistakes I highlighted how many he gets lol. I can laugh now but admit to being a little freaked out at the time.

There is a boy with MS a grade below my daughter who I know receives his meds around the clock and is tube fed. I can't help but wonder who does this during school hours and if their properly trained.

Nucking_Futs
05-19-05, 03:47 PM
Sorry my meds must have been wearing off when I did that post. A child who has asthma would qualify for a 504 plan. The Americans Act of 1991 is a law that protests people with chronic disease such asthma, diabetic, and I think add/adhd.
If your child is sick alot and misses school you might want to check into a team developing a 504.

webmd.com is a great site to learn about asthma. I have a nebulizer and use it as needed. I think it has helped keep me out of the hospital.

Koda had some trouble late last night and I was at work. My husband called his ped. who said to give an extra PRN dose of both the nebulizer and inhaler. I have a feeling the situation was more panic then an actual asthma attack by the way Doug and Koda describe his symptoms. When you have an attack what kinds of therapies do you use to keep yourself calm? It doesn't help that we lost a very young cousin due to a severe asthma attack and Koda knows this.

He is on a 504 plan; but, its more because he is so advanced. He has a special tutor he shares with another boy who is Asperegers, she sits with him and helps him complete his work; he's in the fifth but is currently working on 7-8th grade work. I have concerns about this as well but won't go into it yet since I don't have the time to write the book :rolleyes: . When other kids miss a day of school they have a page of math to do usually 20 pages when Koda misses a day he has 2-3 pages. lmbo now I'm getting mad I'll have to clarify this all later.

Johna
05-19-05, 09:57 PM
Nucking
Ipratropium Bromide, and abulterol are the meds I use in the nebulizer. I am also on advair and singulair. I never leave home without my inhaler. Stress can cause an asthma attack which I have found out the hard way.
Having an asthma attack is very scarey for me I can't imagen what your child is going threw. This might be silly but I will spread out my arms and fingers and imagen that the attack is going out my fingers. The best thing one can do during an attack is to calm down. It helps when people around me don't panic. When I see the panic in co workers eyes when I am having an attack it makes it worse for me. I tend to walk away from people when having an attack because of this. I also learned that when your chest starts getting tight is when you need to use the inhaler.
By the way I am 46 and diagnoised with asthma at 43. My father got asthma also late in life.
I wish you the best!

Imnapl
05-19-05, 11:03 PM
Athsmatics have told me a cup of coffee can help, too.