View Full Version : Depression & Tolerance Questions. I need help please!


six.yearsenior
11-08-16, 04:29 AM
Hello All,

This is my first post in this site and first post ever in any kind of thread or website. Thank you in advance to anyone that takes the time to read this and offer their advice.

I am a 24 year old female and I am in my sixth year of college for my bachelors degree. It's taken me six hard years to finally get my **** together enough to be in my final semester of college. I am expected to graduate in December if I can get a handle on my life enough to finish my current classes. I was prescribed adderall 40mg XR by my family doctor after asking for it because everyone on campus was taking it to focus on school work and I wanted to try it but was to afraid to buy drugs. In high school I made great grades and graduated at the top of my class. When I started college I completely lost all drive and focus. Maybe it was the freedom I all of a sudden had. I didn't have to go to class like I did in high school so I didn't. I lost my scholarships then transferred schools closer back to home. I eventually failed out and had to go to the community college. I finally got my associates degree and then went back to the University to finish my bachelors.

When my doctor prescribed me the adderall it was like everything made sense. It was clear I was struggling with ADHD. I started focusing harder. Things I was learning in class was starting to be so much clearer and I was actually learning the course information and remembering it all. Remembering and retaining the information has always been an issue I've struggled with making test and exams an unpleasant experience. Adderall had solved my problems. I was taking the medicine on school days that I needed to focus. Sometimes every other day and sometimes once a week. (I need to add, adderall made me grind my teeth like a meth addict and made me very feel very embarrassed.)

After a year and a half of taking the Adderall I grew tolerant to it and it wasn't working anymore. I started falling behind again in school and failed more classes. One day a fellow ADHD friend and college student told me about vyvanse and offered to let me try one of hers to see if it helped. She had also been prescribed adderall then made the switch to vyvanse. I tried one of hers and it was amazing! I was more focused and motivated than adderall had ever made me feel! I talked with my doctor and we made the switch to vyvanse 70 Mg. XR. Everything was so much better! My grades were great and I was going to class and was motivated in life as a whole.

This July I took a required organic chemistry summer course so I could graduate this December. I am not book smart and science is my worst subject (I'm a business major). It was everything I could do to get through the course and I barely did. I passed with a grade that was two points above the cut off. But I passed and that's all that matters to me. The class met every day and we had an exam every Friday. We covered 5 chapters each week. I was taking my vyvanse everyday because of the course load. I started noticing a huge tolerance build up by the end of July.

My Fall semester started in August and it's currently November. It's everything I can do to just make myself go to class. Allot of times I don't go. My tolerance has built up to the Vyvanse 70 mg XR. I am extremely unmotivated to do anything at all. It's almost as I'm depressed. I sleep all the time and can't even motivate myself to do housework chores like dishes or laundry. I can't get myself to study or do the online assignments or quizzes for my online class. If I don't pass these last 5 class and get an overall GPA of a 2.0 I won't graduate and will have to retake classes in the spring semester. I want so badly to finally graduate in December and to get a big girl career job I really do, but I don't have the drive to even get out of bed sometimes. My relationship is struggling and my sex drive is nonexistent.

My main focus is to just get through this semester then go from there!

I need suggestions on how to make the vyvanse work again?! Should I ask my doctor for Adderall and vyvanse so I can alternate? I had tried and tried to research this and there is so many people saying so many different things. What is DXM? Will it help? What about chelated magnesium? I know what this is and that some people say it reduces the tolerance build up. But how do you take it? How many Mg and morning or night? I have a two month trial back of namenda (memantine) that a friend that works at a doctors office got for me from the free sample stash. I have read lots of people say this works but no one says how many Mg and what time of day to take it. Please someone give me some advice!

The very last thing I want to do it build up any type of addiction! I am not a drug user whatsoever! I only take birth control and vyvanse. I only take medicine that is prescribed by my doctor and not for recreational purposes! This is one of the reasons I am afraid to tell all of this to my doctor and seek her advice. My town is a very small rural town and prescription pills are a huge problem here. I would say half the population in my town has been or is addicted to prescription pills/street drugs. I don't want her to think I'm just another pill head trying to get more drugs. My parents don't think ADHD is a real thing and that I shouldn't take any medicine at all. I do casually drink with friends but am no where near an alcoholic. I would say I drink maybe once every two weeks if that. I do smoke cigarettes, probably a pack every other day.

Please someone help me or steer me in the right direction to find a solution!

dvdnvwls
11-08-16, 11:45 AM
1. Tolerance as a real-world problem for ADHD medication is much more rare than you've been led to believe, and is generally a non-issue for you unless you are an addict taking far more than any doctor would prescribe.

2. Alternating is definitely useless, because they are essentially the same drug, just in a different format.

Do you drink coffee? That may be having a bad effect. The cigarettes may be bad for your lungs but they probably aren't hurting you at school - though there was a person a few days ago saying his medication felt like it went away when he had a cigarette.

How's your sleep? ADHD medications are useless when you don't sleep well.

Do you eat proper meals? Too little food or eating mostly junk food can take away the benefits of medication.

six.yearsenior
11-10-16, 07:21 AM
Thank you so much for replying!!!

Unfortunately I don't drink coffee, I wish I liked coffee but I've tried every way to drink it and I don't like it. My eating habits could be healthier for sure as far as junk food but I do eat normally with some junk food. I'm 24 5'7" 140 pounds if that matters. I only take the 70 Mg XR once a day like my doctor prescribed. I don't take it everyday currently. Do you know anything about adding magnesium? Would that help?

italianstallion
11-14-16, 07:15 PM
Just out of curiosity, how long would you say the period since you started taking vyvanse and it made everything better, motivation, getting good grades and all last? Did you take any med breaks/ weeks or months without taking vyvanse?

I ask because according to your post it sounds like you are basically stuck in the same situation I am. Vyvanse worked wonders for me during my first semester on it, then pretty much as good the second semester although it didn't seem quite as good as the first I still did very well. Then I went all summer without taking it as suggested by my doc and ever since I came back to school and was taking the same dosages, it has not seemed to be working properly. I lack the motivation to do anything let alone my work and it's hard to tell if it is even helping me focus anymore really. Another big issue I've been having is that it has been making me sweat profusely from my armpits which it had never done before. If it is helping with focus at all, it is barely noticeable and its almost always on the wrong things. Whereas during my first 2 semesters it helped me prioritize, know what had to be done and just do it instead of procrastinating endlessly. On the days where I don't take it I will do even less, but I don't know if this is because it is actually helping slightly or my body is just dependent on it. I only take it during weekdays.

I'm also prescribed 10mg evekeo which has continued to work well, the problem is that it is short acting so I only get maybe 4 good hours out of it when I really need the full day coverage that vyvanse at least USED to give me.

sarahsweets
11-15-16, 05:27 AM
I was prescribed adderall 40mg XR by my family doctor after asking for it because everyone on campus was taking it to focus on school work and I wanted to try it but was to afraid to buy drugs.
Dont take this the wrong way but its situations like these that make it hard for people who legitimately need meds to get them.


In high school I made great grades and graduated at the top of my class. When I started college I completely lost all drive and focus. Maybe it was the freedom I all of a sudden had. I didn't have to go to class like I did in high school so I didn't. I lost my scholarships then transferred schools closer back to home. I eventually failed out and had to go to the community college. I finally got my associates degree and then went back to the University to finish my bachelors.

ADHD symptoms must have been present since childhood before the age of 12 and impair your life in 2 or more ways in 6 or more areas of your life in order for it to be adhd. (unless its 6 or more ways in 2 or more areas? I always mix it up)

When my doctor prescribed me the adderall it was like everything made sense. It was clear I was struggling with ADHD. I started focusing harder. Things I was learning in class was starting to be so much clearer and I was actually learning the course information and remembering it all. Remembering and retaining the information has always been an issue I've struggled with making test and exams an unpleasant experience. Adderall had solved my problems. I was taking the medicine on school days that I needed to focus. Sometimes every other day and sometimes once a week. (I need to add, adderall made me grind my teeth like a meth addict and made me very feel very embarrassed.)

What you experienced is what a lot of college kids who obtain adderall experience. A positive reaction to adderall isnt necessarily indicative of adhd.

After a year and a half of taking the Adderall I grew tolerant to it and it wasn't working anymore. I started falling behind again in school and failed more classes. One day a fellow ADHD friend and college student told me about vyvanse and offered to let me try one of hers to see if it helped. She had also been prescribed adderall then made the switch to vyvanse. I tried one of hers and it was amazing! I was more focused and motivated than adderall had ever made me feel! I talked with my doctor and we made the switch to vyvanse 70 Mg. XR. Everything was so much better! My grades were great and I was going to class and was motivated in life as a whole.

Again no offense, but playing doctor and pharmacist is what gives us people who take meds legit a bad name.

This July I took a required organic chemistry summer course so I could graduate this December. I am not book smart and science is my worst subject (I'm a business major). It was everything I could do to get through the course and I barely did. I passed with a grade that was two points above the cut off. But I passed and that's all that matters to me. The class met every day and we had an exam every Friday. We covered 5 chapters each week. I was taking my vyvanse everyday because of the course load. I started noticing a huge tolerance build up by the end of July.

Was it tolerance or just hard course work?

My Fall semester started in August and it's currently November. It's everything I can do to just make myself go to class. Allot of times I don't go. My tolerance has built up to the Vyvanse 70 mg XR. I am extremely unmotivated to do anything at all. It's almost as I'm depressed. I sleep all the time and can't even motivate myself to do housework chores like dishes or laundry. I can't get myself to study or do the online assignments or quizzes for my online class. If I don't pass these last 5 class and get an overall GPA of a 2.0 I won't graduate and will have to retake classes in the spring semester. I want so badly to finally graduate in December and to get a big girl career job I really do, but I don't have the drive to even get out of bed sometimes. My relationship is struggling and my sex drive is nonexistent.

I mean it can be tolerance-but not tolerance as in your adhd symptoms are no longer treated- its tolerance to the medication and its misuse- sort of.

I need suggestions on how to make the vyvanse work again?! Should I ask my doctor for Adderall and vyvanse so I can alternate? I had tried and tried to research this and there is so many people saying so many different things. What is DXM? Will it help? What about chelated magnesium?
First thing- stay off bluelight and other pro-drug abuse sites. They all claim to have the magic formula but its more about getting high and abuse then having something work the way its supposed to. DXM is NEVER meant to be taken everyday or in that way, nor is there any hard evidence that it does anything for tolerance. It may make you "feel" the meds again but it doesnt somehow target tolerance.
I take chelated magnesium for sleep-always have, I have never noticed that it had anything to do with my medication.


I know what this is and that some people say it reduces the tolerance build up. But how do you take it? How many Mg and morning or night? I have a two month trial back of namenda (memantine) that a friend that works at a doctors office got for me from the free sample stash. I have read lots of people say this works but no one says how many Mg and what time of day to take it. Please someone give me some advice!

AGAIN I am not trying to kick your butt over this but it truly offends me.

The very last thing I want to do it build up any type of addiction! I am not a drug user whatsoever! I only take birth control and vyvanse. I only take medicine that is prescribed by my doctor and not for recreational purposes! This is one of the reasons I am afraid to tell all of this to my doctor and seek her advice. My town is a very small rural town and prescription pills are a huge problem here. I would say half the population in my town has been or is addicted to prescription pills/street drugs. I don't want her to think I'm just another pill head trying to get more drugs. My parents don't think ADHD is a real thing and that I shouldn't take any medicine at all. I do casually drink with friends but am no where near an alcoholic. I would say I drink maybe once every two weeks if that. I do smoke cigarettes, probably a pack every other day.

But you just said you took a friends' vyvanse and you have sample rx's from a friend- that would mean you are taking medication not technically prescribed to you. And just because you are not intending to take the medication to have a good time doesnt mean its not recreational. What you have described doing is at best misuse.
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