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acdc01
02-28-17, 06:37 AM
Another thread I started has made me start wondering if I'm autistic or not. Do you guys think I might be? Is there a good online checklist somewhere or something?

There is definitely a family history of it cause my dad and cousins symptoms are extremely obvious.

When I was in 5th and 6th grade, I remember my favorite shirt to have 2 Garfield cats on it with the title "be your own best friend". I didn't understand how pathetic that title sounded and wore that shirt all the time. In my defense, my sister loved that shirt too but she was in 2nd grade at the time and liked it more cause I liked it so much.

I owned a pencil sharpener for one week that was a bell when I was in 5th grade. I loved that pencil sharpener and would ring it in front of classmates. The pencil sharper got stolen quickly cause I kept it in my unlocked desk, unsupervised. I couldn't understand how people could be mean enough to intentionally want to do something like that.

I do not like big social gatherings. When I was in college, we would go out to get something to eat very late at night and I would just sit there with a spaced out look on my face not saying much. I told myself the reason was cause the gatherings were always late so I was always sleepy by then. Now I actively avoid parties and have a very hard time getting myself to go.

I tell myself to go to voluntary staff meetings all the time knowing I need to kiss ***. But I can't get myself to do so as I dread them and sometimes I forget about them altogether.

I get super excited about vacations and want to talk about them all the time.

I have a lot of interests though. The interests usually rotate in strength with something coming to the forefront for a while, then the interest wanes and I spend my time highly interested in a couple other interest, and maybe later (could be years later), I become really interested in it again.

I feel like I can read people's emotions on their faces.

I do smile when happy.

I have one friend now. I think it's more cause of me not being open and not going out to make friends more than it is because I lack social skills. I feel like I can do acceptable in social gathers when I do go to them if I push myself to try to talk at them.

I tried to read something to a coworker once in the cubicle office area. I couldn't for the life of me read it though I think cause of the background noises. There wasn't really that much noise but I was just sensitive to it. It rarely gets this bad though.

I'm naturally messy though I've learned to clean.

I think I'll ask my old psychiatrist too but in general, most people only diagnose me with reluctance. If I struggle to get them to give me an adhd diagnosis, I'd be astounded if I can get an autism one.

acdc01
02-28-17, 08:01 AM
Oh, and I learned to speak at a very young age. From my understanding I was more advanced than average in terms of speaking which is a sign against autism isnt it?

Fraser_0762
02-28-17, 08:32 AM
Autism isn't always attributed with language delays. Nobody on here can tell you if you're autistic or not. A few quirks from 5th or 6th grade doesn't put us in any better position to give you an accurate answer.

Fortune
02-28-17, 08:35 AM
Oh, and I learned to speak at a very young age. From my understanding I was more advanced than average in terms of speaking which is a sign against autism isnt it?

I'm autistic and I started speaking at 9 months.

acdc01
02-28-17, 01:27 PM
Autism isn't always attributed with language delays. Nobody on here can tell you if you're autistic or not. A few quirks from 5th or 6th grade doesn't put us in any better position to give you an accurate answer.

If you guys can't get a decent guess ( not asking for a diagnosis or anything), is there a checklist online somewhere that's good?

I realize I'm extremely logical too. I don't know maybe I jist have tendencies cause if I am autistic, I would be a very mild case though the one checklist I found myself online, well I check most of the boxes.

midnightstar
02-28-17, 01:30 PM
acdc the only way to know for sure is if your doctor diagnoses you :grouphug:

Fraser_0762
02-28-17, 01:38 PM
If you guys can't get a decent guess ( not asking for a diagnosis or anything), is there a checklist online somewhere that's good?

I realize I'm extremely logical too. I don't know maybe I jist have tendencies cause if I am autistic, I would be a very mild case though the one checklist I found myself online, well I check most of the boxes.

It's not that simple i'm afraid. It's like doing an online ADHD checklist. It can only hint at the possibility, but can never be taken officially.

You will need a referal to an experienced psychologist to really find out for sure.

acdc01
02-28-17, 01:57 PM
It's not that simple i'm afraid. It's like doing an online ADHD checklist. It can only hint at the possibility, but can never be taken officially.

You will need a referal to an experienced psychologist to really find out for sure.

Would it not be a psychiatrist instead of psychologist or is it different with autism

Fraser_0762
02-28-17, 02:09 PM
Would it not be a psychiatrist instead of psychologist or is it different with autism

I believe I was diagnosed by a psychologist. But it may be different where you are, or things may have changed over the years.

dvdnvwls
02-28-17, 02:34 PM
I have ADHD, and I'm pretty sure I'm not autistic - though I can't prove that.

I identify in general with most of what you wrote.

I sometimes think there must be variations of ADHD that on the surface seem more autism-like, but that when you dig deeper turn out not to be.

Other times, I think my blazingly-obvious ADHD has come with a few features of autism, but not the most famous ones. Like "ADHD-PI Plus Aspie-Lite". :)

Who knows?

dvdnvwls
02-28-17, 03:18 PM
... or maybe many cases of ADHD-PI really are Aspie-Lite, and experts haven't figured that out. I doubt that, but I'm no expert.

Fortune
02-28-17, 04:32 PM
If you guys can't get a decent guess ( not asking for a diagnosis or anything), is there a checklist online somewhere that's good?

I realize I'm extremely logical too. I don't know maybe I jist have tendencies cause if I am autistic, I would be a very mild case though the one checklist I found myself online, well I check most of the boxes.

Google the aspie quiz. That would certainly give you some information as to how closely you might approach to being autistic.

If you go to Wrong Planet, there's a sticky thread in the general forum that is filled with autism-related quizzes.

Obv. you can't base an official diagnosis on taking these things, but they can help point you in the right direction.

acdc01
03-01-17, 09:42 AM
Thanks for the quiz fortune. I'll give is try after I get my new charger for my laptop. Sucks it just broke and the quiz doesn't seem to work on my cell phone.

Dvd, thanks for the info on yourself.

IHNWCC
03-01-17, 11:48 PM
Hi! I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you can't really diagnose yourself with a checklist or quiz. I really do wish it were that easy. I have went with several family members through all their long testing to be diagnosed with autism, and it is complex testing. Based on my experience, people with autism generally do not even realize that they view the world differently than others. Therefore, it would be really hard for someone to do a quiz or checklist on themselves. I suppose you could have someone close to you do a checklist on you from their perception of you. I really would encourage you to talk to a psychologist if you are truly concerned. You would need a psychologist to diagnose you anyways. (At least where I'm from, a psychiatrist only deals with prescribing meds and seeing overall care. The psychologist actually does the diagnosing and actual therapy with you.) Hope this helps you!

Fortune
03-02-17, 03:55 PM
Hi! I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you can't really diagnose yourself with a checklist or quiz. I really do wish it were that easy. I have went with several family members through all their long testing to be diagnosed with autism, and it is complex testing. Based on my experience, people with autism generally do not even realize that they view the world differently than others. Therefore, it would be really hard for someone to do a quiz or checklist on themselves. I suppose you could have someone close to you do a checklist on you from their perception of you. I really would encourage you to talk to a psychologist if you are truly concerned. You would need a psychologist to diagnose you anyways. (At least where I'm from, a psychiatrist only deals with prescribing meds and seeing overall care. The psychologist actually does the diagnosing and actual therapy with you.) Hope this helps you!

People can find out from checklists and "quizzes" whether they might be autistic or not.

This advice really isn't helpful for someone trying to explore the possibility that she is autistic. For one thing, when you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. Which means that your experiences may not be universal. People who grow to adulthood with conditions like autism may very well realize things that you don't think autistic people can realize. Heck, people who are teenagers can realize it. And sometimes children.

To put this in some kind of context, before my official professional dx with autism spectrum disorder, I had used the quizzes and checklists to determine that I was probably autistic. I also talked to other autistic people to see what we might have in common and where we might differ. Overall, it was a very helpful process to me and I would never advise someone to not do it simply because of the (wrong) idea that diagnosis is sacrosanct.

Fortune
03-02-17, 03:58 PM
Thanks for the quiz fortune. I'll give is try after I get my new charger for my laptop. Sucks it just broke and the quiz doesn't seem to work on my cell phone.

Dvd, thanks for the info on yourself.

Ah, yeah, you probably need to do it on a computer. I've never tried it on a phone or tablet.

Also check out that thread I pointed out on the wrong planet forum - it has a lot of tests which can be indicative.

And I would say not to worry whether or not you're being professionally evaluated, since you know you best, and you're trying to better understand yourself, there's nothing wrong with this kind of exploration.

acdc01
03-02-17, 04:43 PM
Ah, yeah, you probably need to do it on a computer. I've never tried it on a phone or tablet.

Also check out that thread I pointed out on the wrong planet forum - it has a lot of tests which can be indicative.

And I would say not to worry whether or not you're being professionally evaluated, since you know you best, and you're trying to better understand yourself, there's nothing wrong with this kind of exploration.

Thanks fortune. You've been a big help.

Lunacie
03-02-17, 06:40 PM
Hi! I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you can't really diagnose yourself with a checklist or quiz. I really do wish it were that easy. I have went with several family members through all their long testing to be diagnosed with autism, and it is complex testing. Based on my experience, people with autism generally do not even realize that they view the world differently than others. Therefore, it would be really hard for someone to do a quiz or checklist on themselves. I suppose you could have someone close to you do a checklist on you from their perception of you. I really would encourage you to talk to a psychologist if you are truly concerned. You would need a psychologist to diagnose you anyways. (At least where I'm from, a psychiatrist only deals with prescribing meds and seeing overall care. The psychologist actually does the diagnosing and actual therapy with you.) Hope this helps you!

Online quizzes, checklists or questionnaires aren't meant to be diagnostic,
and I've never seen one claim anything like that.

They've all said my score was high enough that I might be interested in
talking to a trained mental health professional about the possibility I could
be on the spectrum.

Everything I've seen and read from people with autism says that they are
quite aware they are somehow different in how they interact with the world.

Of course I don't mean young children, kids with these disorders may realize
they are somehow different than their peers but they don't really understand
those differences until they get older and do some reading or talk to others
to compare differences and similarities.

aeon
03-02-17, 07:16 PM
rdos dot net aspie quiz:

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 76 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 148 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly10a.php?p1=60&p2=43&p3=51&p4=7&p5=31&p6=20&p7=43&p8=37&p9=7&p10=38

Cheers,
Ian

Lunacie
03-02-17, 07:43 PM
rdos dot net aspie quiz:

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 76 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 148 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly10a.php?p1=60&p2=43&p3=51&p4=7&p5=31&p6=20&p7=43&p8=37&p9=7&p10=38

Cheers,
Ian

:yes:

Yeah, that's the one I took a few years ago. I don't remember the score now,
but it did say it's possible I'm on the spectrum and if I find the symptoms to
be impairing I should ask for a diagnosis.

Fortune
03-02-17, 08:16 PM
rdos dot net aspie quiz:

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 76 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 148 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly10a.php?p1=60&p2=43&p3=51&p4=7&p5=31&p6=20&p7=43&p8=37&p9=7&p10=38

Cheers,
Ian

Your Aspie score: 174 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 34 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

This is from when I took the Aspie Quiz in 2013.

BellaVita
03-02-17, 08:38 PM
People can find out from checklists and "quizzes" whether they might be autistic or not.

This advice really isn't helpful for someone trying to explore the possibility that she is autistic. For one thing, when you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism. Which means that your experiences may not be universal. People who grow to adulthood with conditions like autism may very well realize things that you don't think autistic people can realize. Heck, people who are teenagers can realize it. And sometimes children.

To put this in some kind of context, before my official professional dx with autism spectrum disorder, I had used the quizzes and checklists to determine that I was probably autistic. I also talked to other autistic people to see what we might have in common and where we might differ. Overall, it was a very helpful process to me and I would never advise someone to not do it simply because of the (wrong) idea that diagnosis is sacrosanct.

Yes I agree with this.

I may not be diagnosed, but I sure as heck know without any doubt whatsoever that I'm autistic.

I actually wasn't aware of it or that it could even be a possibility until I was a young adult, but I have felt different from everyone since I was a small girl. I remember that feeling hitting me when I was a quite young kid sitting on the floor with my other classmates, it was such a strong and somewhat lonely feeling. But I couldn't figure out what was causing that feeling. It was just there. Maybe different is the wrong word, but the strong feeling that there was something missing in my interaction with others and how others responded to me versus how they interacted with each other and responded to each other. None of these words are accurately describing my experience, it's hard to explain.

I fit the diagnostic criteria almost to a t.

And every checklist I read about symptoms of autistic females I hit like 97% of them.

I can't remember for sure but I think my aspie score was like 178(or was it 189? It was definitely between the 170s and 180s but I can't remember what) on the aspie quiz.

I have researched this topic more than almost any other topic ever. And have looked back and evaluated my childhood. Other people have given their opinions on me. About my behavior etc. Other people also do not doubt that I am.

It so clearly explains everything about my life, it is shocking.

One day I would like to probably get a formal diagnosis just to make it "official." But at this point in my life, that's not something I need.

With this information about autism, I have learned many things about myself and have discovered ways to help reduce sensory issues, reduce and prevent meltdowns and burn out,have people accommodate me in ways so that I am able to function and use communication in a way that works for me, and the people around me are very understanding to my needs and "different" ways.

I got made fun of for some of my autistic behaviors growing up, from my brother to my school friends, and got told bad things about me like how I have to have everything go my own way.

I've been told that I'm rude for things I didn't even know were "wrong" because I lacked the ability to understand how other people thought and how my actions and behavior would affect others, I was told other times that I am self-centered and selfish. Because of how badly I would react to changes in plan, and because I needed things to go in a particular order and way.

And it is so good to now know that I never was those bad things and that what people said about me and thought about me wasn't true after all. That it was just how I am and it is how I am because of being autistic. And it's good to know that my behaviors (rocking, flapping, vocal repetition - etc.) are stemming. And now I don't feel so bad about doing them because I need to do them! And it's OK. I'm not a freak or weird like how I was treated.

And my struggles to interact socially and the weird suddenly going mute thing that has happened to me my entire life is all finally explained and that gives me relief and peace.

Oddly enough, although not so odd to me, finding out about autism has changed my life in more ways than any other "official" diagnosis I've ever received.

I could go on and on - but yeah sometimes just knowing about yourself and learning something so significant can be life-changing without necessarily having a formal diagnosis. Plus, just because I could get a piece of paper saying that, doesn't change the fact that I already have been autistic this whole time.

Lunacie
03-02-17, 09:16 PM
Since I didn't remember my score, I took the test again.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 112 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 73 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)

Not as significant as Fortune, but not neuro-typical by any means.

acdc01
03-02-17, 10:17 PM
Got it to work on my cell using chrome.

Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 95 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 100 of 200
You seem to have both neurodiverse and neurotypical traits

I'm thinking I'm like dvd. Probably not autistic but with some traits. Test seems to match what people think of themselves interestingly.

Cyllya
03-03-17, 12:35 AM
I'm guessing that you probably would not be diagnosed with ASD by a mental health professional who was using the "gold standard" autism diagnostic tools.

However!

ADHD and ASD are a lot more similar than they might first appear. If think if you have ADHD, you might as well consider yourself to have Autism Lite, for the purpose of self-help research. The actual issues faced by adults with each condition are weirdly similar, so if you make a topic about ADHD issues and someone starts posting ASD-related info, it's not because you have ASD, it's because similar tactics are used for both. (Here's a comparison of the DSM diagnostic criteria (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1928247&postcount=16).) The overlap is stronger with some presentations of each condition than others, but if you read forums/blogs/self-help/etc by autistic people, you will probably identify with it quite a lot.

Is there a good online checklist somewhere or something?

The AQ-10 (available here (http://docs.autismresearchcentre.com/tests/AQ10.pdf)) is considered useful as a screening test by actual medical professionals. (Personally, I have trouble answering half the questions.)

The Aspie Quiz (http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php) is probably most informative, and I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be the most accurate, but it gets little respect by mental health professionals because it wasn't made by one of them.

Would it not be a psychiatrist instead of psychologist or is it different with autism

Autism seems to be more of a psychologist thing. At least in the USA, any mental health professional is technically allowed to diagnose any mental health condition (even if they're like a social worker or counselor or something), but in practice, it seems like different types tend to have different diagnostic inclinations and specialties.

People on this site (expecting an ADHD diagnosis) tend to have bad results if they go to a psychologist, but on wrongplanet.org (autism forum, people want an ASD diagnosis) you'll find oodles of similar anecdotes about the bad consequences of going to a psychiatrist. I wonder if there is some diagnostic bias based on whether the condition has decent medication or non-medication treatments?

acdc01
03-03-17, 04:31 PM
Thanks cyllya. Interesting comparison between the 2 illnesses.

I'm so discouraged by mental healthcare services available around the world. That generally accepted test sucks. It's another example of why I'd much rather do my own research and ask people here than go to any medical professional. I guess both is good since the pros would know better how to ask me questions so they can get the big picture better but still, I don't think I could ever trust a medical professional without doing my own research ever again when it comes to mental illness.

dvdnvwls
03-03-17, 07:31 PM
About professionals and legitimate diagnosis:

In a significant proportion of cases, professionals diagnose wrong. Often, they diagnose the same person wrong more than once.

Given that, I can't see a reason why someone who thinks they're autistic should be warned to only trust professional diagnosis. Also, at least in general, an autism diagnosis doesn't lead inevitably to medication and other treatment the way an ADHD diagnosis does.

I do see lots of reasons to warn them away from quacks, but in general the autism quacks are scary and cruel anyway - no one in their right mind, autistic or non-autistic, would listen to them for their own personal advice. The autism quacks seem instead to target the parents of autistic children, desperate parents who will do or pay anything to get their child "fixed" - as long as it doesn't involve asking the child how he feels about it, or being led to discover that the child doesn't need to be fixed. It's sad.

Lunacie
03-03-17, 09:00 PM
:goodpost: Thank you dvdnvwls!

C15H25N3O
03-19-17, 02:48 PM
acdc the only way to know for sure is if your doctor diagnoses you :grouphug:

but dont tell the doc about other diagnoses you got before not to make him/her half-blind.

My Aspie score: 182 of 200
My neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 44 of 200

Do I still have ADHD?

C15H25N3O
03-19-17, 03:28 PM
I am diagnosed with heavy inattentive ADHD and recently with Autism.

What is true? Dont believe the diagosis hype and evidence based medicine.
Just be yourself and take what feels natural and good for you.

First of all I am myself not a labeled peace of meat.

As I am autistic I have to repetitive burp again.

Burp!