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Never ends
08-07-17, 09:43 PM
I was prescribed 20 mg XR adderall once a day and 10 mg of abilify to help with irritability and mood swings but it was blocking my other med. so I cut back to 5mg before bed and then stopped it all together a about 10 days ago.

Everything seemed fine up until this morning about 1 am at work, my adderall wears off 6 hours into a shift and I was back into my crazy old high strung mood out of nowhere. Woke up feeling the same way, so I took 5 mg of the abilify which of coarse killed the adderall.


So my question is what CAN I take for the mood issues and it not affect my other med??? Thanks in advance.

Greyhound1
08-07-17, 11:27 PM
Check with your Dr. for sure but I was told by mine it would be best to take my antidepressant before bed and Adderall first thing in the morning. I am not sure if that applies to Abilify but I noticed a difference with Cymbalta and Adderall IR.

wonderboy
08-07-17, 11:28 PM
It appears that the research seems to indicate the future possibilities of the use of Abilify in Amphetamine Dependency

Here are some interesting articles I researched for you


https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/article/13/4/541/713561

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Vahid_Farnia/publication/301215851_Neuropathology_of_Drug_Addictions_and_Su bstance_Misuse_VThe_Neuropathology_of_Drug_Addicti ons_And_Substance_Misuse_Edited_by_Victor_Preedy_0 12016_Volume_2_Chapter_26_Amphetamine_induced_psyc hosis_page/links/570ce7d808ae2b772e42a310/Neuropathology-of-Drug-Addictions-and-Substance-Misuse-VThe-Neuropathology-of-Drug-Addictions-And-Substance-Misuse-Edited-by-Victor-Preedy-01-2016-Volume-2-Chapter-26-Amphetamine-induced-psychosis.pdf

Never ends
08-08-17, 12:14 AM
The abilify will definitely calm me down there's no doubt there. My rig is on down time right now and I don't even care to stand up to go help my guys....but my mood is calm and level.

I'm going to see about a smaller dosage starting out so I'm not lazier than I already feel.

And yes greyhound I was taking it before bed, but still felt sluggish the next day. I had to take one before work today because I was still so manic acting. Aggravating getting medicine sorted out so it works for you. That's why I put it off my whole life.

Greyhound1
08-08-17, 12:20 AM
The abilify will definitely calm me down there's no doubt there. My rig is on down time right now and I don't even care to stand up to go help my guys....but my mood is calm and level.

I'm going to see about a smaller dosage starting out so I'm not lazier than I already feel.

And yes greyhound I was taking it before bed, but still felt sluggish the next day. I had to take one before work today because I was still so manic acting. Aggravating getting medicine sorted out so it works for you. That's why I put it off my whole life.
I also find myself sluggish taking it just before bed. Started taking it earlier recently in the late afternoon. Seems to be better so far.

Never ends
08-11-17, 01:00 AM
I'm going to the doctor tomorrow and trying to find something other than abilify or Dutch it all together.

I came home Wednesday morning and slept 8 hours, was up four and slept 12 more, then I took another 4 hour nap today, nothing new for me after two weeks of nights but it's not normal to sleep that much, I've wasted two days off already

Snoopy10
08-11-17, 12:03 PM
I have had total failures with adding anything to Adderall. Even beta blockers interfered with Adderall's effect. Over time Adderall has really balanced my mood. I'm much more patient. But that took like a year.

Never ends
08-11-17, 12:56 PM
Going to the doctor Monday, they're kinda mad I'm coming in early for a second time, but I don't know what else to tell them

Little Missy
08-11-17, 01:11 PM
Going to the doctor Monday, they're kinda mad I'm coming in early for a second time, but I don't know what else to tell them

Good for you!

We have to be our own advocate, in charge of ourselves and the medications we need because no one else is going to do it for us.

Little Missy
08-11-17, 01:15 PM
Going to the doctor Monday, they're kinda mad I'm coming in early for a second time, but I don't know what else to tell them

Kinda mad and being paid for seeing you. :doh:

Snoopy10
08-12-17, 10:16 AM
doctors can be so frustrating, especially with mental illness stuff. The last time I went in for my prescriptions I was a little late and even tried to call ahead but the receptionist kept hanging up on me (they never seem that hectic when I'm in there). The doctor was totally irritated with me so I said well just write the prescriptions so I can leave. I'm sorry I'm not having a heart attack or something you consider 'real'!

Never ends
08-12-17, 04:39 PM
Kinda mad and being paid for seeing you. :doh:

I have to leave town early and asked to get my scripts filled not knowing I had to wait and they can actually just call them in to the pharmacy in the town my rig is in, I also asked about a dosage adjustment again.

I hoping it works out because I'm still tired all the time and scatterbrained by 1 pm or depending when I wake up and take my med. I actually lost 3 in the sink at the man camp last week so I'll be out Tuesday, so I can't wait for that.

peripatetic
08-12-17, 11:17 PM
i don't take it for mood issues...and i'm kinda surprised they wouldn't try a mood stabilizer instead of an antipsychotic for that for you...

BUT: i take it first thing in the morning. along with other stuff. i'm only taking 5mg currently though. you might try switching the time to the morning and see if that works...?

Never ends
08-13-17, 02:17 PM
i don't take it for mood issues...and i'm kinda surprised they wouldn't try a mood stabilizer instead of an antipsychotic for that for you...

BUT: i take it first thing in the morning. along with other stuff. i'm only taking 5mg currently though. you might try switching the time to the morning and see if that works...?

I'm bi polar but obviously not as bad as he thinks, I've taken it before bed, when I've got up and mid afternoon, each time I've taken it, it's been lights out or close to it about 20-30 min afterwards, and I stay in a daze for hours.

wonderboy
08-13-17, 02:23 PM
There are many other medication options

I did some research, and take a look at this


https://www.centerwatch.com/drug-information/fda-approved-drugs/therapeutic-area/17/psychiatry-psychology


Hope this helps in anyway

Never ends
08-14-17, 03:09 PM
Got the second dose of adderall, didn't say what yet as it was too early to refill my Rx, so Thursday I'll find out what dose it will be.

They're still dead set on using the abilify so, I guess I'll just do without it and keep complaining until they change their mind.

Never ends
08-21-17, 10:14 PM
Well I was wrong I did not get a second dose, I got upped to 30 mg XR, said insurance does not like to cover the second dose until the morning dose has been adjust accordingly. Does this make sense?

sarahsweets
08-23-17, 03:21 AM
Well I was wrong I did not get a second dose, I got upped to 30 mg XR, said insurance does not like to cover the second dose until the morning dose has been adjust accordingly. Does this make sense?

It doesnt make sense. Some insurances will have dosage caps where they will not cover more than a certain amount of a medication per day no matter what but it shouldnt matter when the medication is taken. Where did you get that explanation? My insurance will not cover adderall xr 20 mg more than three times a day so I take that and then an additional dose of adderall xr 15 to get around that cap per day.

Never ends
08-23-17, 05:17 PM
It doesnt make sense. Some insurances will have dosage caps where they will not cover more than a certain amount of a medication per day no matter what but it shouldnt matter when the medication is taken. Where did you get that explanation? My insurance will not cover adderall xr 20 mg more than three times a day so I take that and then an additional dose of adderall xr 15 to get around that cap per day.

This was what the nurse practitioner told me who was directed by the p-doc.

sarahsweets
08-24-17, 04:39 AM
This was what the nurse practitioner told me who was directed by the p-doc.

I personally would look up the laws in your state and the requirements of your insurance company before accepting this.

Never ends
08-24-17, 08:06 AM
Oh I'm staying on them, they said next visit we can try for two doses, just didn't make any sense to me

wonderboy
08-25-17, 05:58 PM
I think the dopamine connection, especially as it relates to Adderall and Abilify, is such a fascinating subject.

It appears that some research (unevenly, I must admit) reports that drugs similar to Abilify may hold hope in research related to amphetamine / methamphetamine abuse.


Abilify is a unique drug because it acts as both an agonist and also as an antagonist of specific dopamine receptors in the brain.

Never ends
08-25-17, 10:16 PM
I think the dopamine connection, especially as it relates to Adderall and Abilify, is such a fascinating subject.

It appears that some research (unevenly, I must admit) reports that drugs similar to Abilify may hold hope in research related to amphetamine / methamphetamine abuse.


Abilify is a unique drug because it acts as both an agonist and also as an antagonist of specific dopamine receptors in the brain.

That's pretty interesting, I know it really has an effect on me when I take it with the adderall, by itself it's not near as bad.