I wanted this topic to be free from dogma or judgment, of any form...Please allow for all of us, to be free, in our thought formation, when posting replies.

My faith, or religion (since it is a doctrine I adhere to) is one of mindfulness, awareness, and connectivity to all living matter. It is no 'big secret', but one subject to 'muddle' at times, as I am human...

Read the following song lyrics...really read them (minus my perceptions in parentheses)...and let me know:

What defines your faith...?
Nova

There's no religion but sex and music (fertility, creativity)
There's no religion but sound and dancing (familiarity)
There's no religion but line and color (societal)
There's no religion but sacred trance (perception)

There's no religion but the endless ocean (infinity)
There's no religion but the moon and stars (hope)
There's no religion but time and motion (action)
There's no religion, just tribal scars (conformity)

Throw a pebble in and watch the ocean (cause and effect)
See the ripples vanish in the distance (illusion)
It's just the same with all the emotions (belief)
It's just the same in every instance (truth)

There's no religion but the joys of rhythm (pattern)
There's no religion but the rites of Spring (new beginnings)
There's no religion in the path of hate (literal)
No prayer but the one I sing (personal)

I was raised a Southern Baptist, please don't hold that against me :) Lately, I've been reading about Wiccan and seek to understand that religion.

I didn't think religeous discussion is allowed here?


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I'd say delete before it gets spotted :D but you wouldn't be able to delete other peoples posts from the thread. :faint:

I didn't think religeous discussion is allowed here?


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Yep,was right...

I'd say delete before it gets spotted :D but you wouldn't be able to delete other peoples posts from the thread. :faint:

Now, how can they actually expect a bunch of ADD'ers to follow the rules? Geez.........

Let us pray... :foot:

My faith is grounded with a personial relationship with Jesus Christ. Plan and simple, I do not appoligise for it nor will I. Through many trials and many healings I can only say that I owe my aligence to Him who was sent to save me.

Nove , is that mlain enough ?

This thread has been moved here, the spirituality forum. Feel free to discuss this subject here, but remember that we come from all walks of life and all faiths. Let us keep true to the spirit in which Nova wrote the original post, free from dogma or judgement. What is the "essence" of your faith? (If I understand her question correctly.)

I agree with fightbordom, how can one except people with add/adhd to follow rules? Rules were made to be broken :) example: speed limits; talking about subjects that are a no, no!

This subject isn't a no-no, there's just a place for it that doesn't include the main body of the forums where people are looking for advice and not a debate. Religion has a way of pushing people's hot buttons.

The essence of my faith is "staying green". It's something my Mom taught me. Keep growing. I love to learn. I love to understand. I love to sit in someone else's shoes and see the world from their point of view just for a little while. The world becomes wide open, the universe gets bigger, and I touch the divine. I am more in awe of life and death and everything in between every time I learn something new, that touches me, teaches me or reminds me of what's really important.

EYE , that is a great way of looking at it. I posted where my faith comes from you stated the why. It opened my eyes to the question at hand . Thank you.

Hi Nova....I'd say that connecting to all living souls ranks high in my faith also. Spiritual connection to others and the nature that surrounds me assures me I am not in this world alone.

I am also fully aware of throwing the pebble in the pond and watching it ripple. Only I view the ripples that extend from the center and see a hungry soul seeking others.

My soul is also a hungry soul.
Many types of hunger.......psychic, physical, emotional, creative, and spiritual.

And through the gifts of reason, imagination, curiosity, discernment, love.....I feed my soul.

Hunger is holy, and it is my responsibility to seek and find inner peace, joy, and harmony through those gifts.

Love, hunger, appetite, desire, holiness, wholeness.
It's all one.

~gourmet~

:P Sorry about that ! I'll look for that topic in the 'spirtuality' area...
Nova

I'm not being troublesome..lol !! But how is this defined under 'ADHD treatment and management'...??? No matter..Y'all do make me smile so...
Nova

Johna:
I was raised a Southern Baptist, please don't hold that against me :) Lately, I've been reading about Wiccan and seek to understand that religion

I, am proficient in that religion, sweetie. If you need any help, with any of it's ideologies, let me know.
Nova

I posted that excerpt from a song for a specific reason. I believe that all faiths follow the same format. If, you think about it, we all follow the same ideologies of spirituality..and most of them govern human decency, compassion, and growth. Any 'religion' or spirituality one follows is amazingly wonderful. It allows one to think..to grow...and most of all, to not judge another for their beliefs. I was mostly curious as to how some of you govern your lives, in retrospect to, 'faith'. In other words..What do you value as being absolute in your life..and what do you refuse to allow..??
Nova

Ooooh, interesting thread.

"Free from dogma" is not possible for some. I find those people do hinder the exchange of ideas; I suspect that is their intent. But it's okay, they have their bliss. I just wander away from them, usually.

Okay.... God. Creator of All Things. If you believe in Him, I think inherent in that is the idea that He's beyond our comprehension. (I use "Him" as the convenient cultural norm for comunicating about The Creator, who I don't think will be described accurately within a piffly little pronoun). We're only capable of seeing a teeny slice of Him, not enough to mean much, and not enough to be worth fighting or condemning each other, which I think is sooooo missing His point.

Pick a given individual human. Say this person's undertanding of God is completely correct. This person has no misconceptions about Him. Still, this person's KNOWLEDGE of God is an infinitesimally small part of what He is. I think it's so small as to be irrelevant. God created us as we are, and isn't going to hold it against us that we havne't the capacity to understand Him; the eensy scrip of comprehension we may be capable of, whether or not we have that? I don't think he judges our souls based on that.

I think being right about God is irrelevant. I think living in love, cultivating light and goodness, become our best and strongest self, is what He wants from us, and what he judges us on, not what we think or know.

(I believe) Faith is nice if you have it; but it's not key. Good works are IT. And I think that the cultivation of the idea of Faith as key, helps organized religion keep hold of its power, and they have a vested interest in cultivating the idea that Faith is essential to an eternity with God. I am not anti-organized religion; it would be like being against the sunrise. I think there's something in Man that wants to build structures, in brick and mortar or in less tangible materials, and that's the nature of Man. I just am wary of that which seeks to make us all believe the same thing; as I said above, I think it's -perhaps unconsciously or perhaps in a more cynical conscious way - a self-serving device for the organization and I don't wish to participate in that process. I feel it's being manipulated in ways I don't condone.

Okay, my Iranian husband poses the question, from his childhood -
"Can God make a rock so big he can't move it?"

So perhaps God can't do everything.

I think Heaven and Hell are not places, but states of being... and the words describe what we make ourselves into. We become Heaven, or Hell, depending on whether we cultivate Love and Light, or hate and darkness, in our souls. So I don't think God dooms evil souls, exactly; I think it's just the nature of existence, it's what we have made ourselves into; we will get exactly what we deserve, we will BE exactly what we deserve to be. He has given us free will and the power to make ourselves whatever we can and will; I don't think God interferes with that free will, although he invites us all through our lives to choose the Light.

I think God is Creativity and Love, inherently. He can't not create or not love. I choose to believe that there's a creative and loving force at the root of it all, even with no proof that, because it pleases me to believe that. It makes all of life meaningful to me.

And we'll all find out the answer someday, whatever it is. Love to us all.

What I demand and refuse to allow? Difficult question indeed. I allow much... not the same as condoning or approving, you understand.

I encourage/demand my kids to question the meaning of life; not to accept someone else's recipe for life, without question. It's the responsibility of each of us to nurture our souls; accepting an established religion may be how one discharges that obligation; it hasn't worked for me.

I try to avoid darkness; not always possible. I try to cultivate a patient and understanding nature in myself, and that's certainly a work in progress. I write a good game, spiritually, but watch me on a frazzled day when I have nothing Zen about me whatsoever. SNAP! CRACKLE! POP! go my nerve endings. And I could kick myself when it's over. All the belief in the world doesn't fix it when you find yourelf treating your precious family like annoyances; it's so hard to walk the walk, once you've decided the direction. The bar is always rising, if you're honest with yourself and really striving for self-improvement.

Wow Piglet, I think you explained things very well! I remeber one of the last times I went to church. It was on Easer Sunday ( I grew up Catholic, baptised Christian...)and I was checking out this church I thought had promise. I was questioning whether my choice of being "spiritual" compared to worshiping in an organized religion was a good choice.

During the service the Minister described an recient trip to India. He was visiting w/ a Hindu priest and was amazed w/ the conversation. The Hindu priest described God as the hub of a wheel. The spokes being all the different religions of the world leading to Him. I thought that was a perfect analogy. Well, the Minister then said he didn't have the heart to tell him he was wrong! That the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. I felt like I was socked in the gut.... I knew that wasn't for me.

I firmly believe that any "spiritual" guidance, (whether it be from organized religion or your own personal philosophy) that guides you to be a good person and improve your surroundings to benefit others is good.

So, my "spirituality" is to walk softly, speak kindly, treat people as you would like to be treated.

We all need to respect everyone's "spirituality" and know that hopefully everyone's goals is to lead a good life in "light".
Namaste

So, my "spirituality" is to walk softly, speak kindly, treat people as you would like to be treated.

We all need to respect everyone's "spirituality" and know that hopefully everyone's goals is to lead a good life in "light".
Namaste
well said:)

When I try to define faith I feel as though I am drawing imaginary lines - setting boundaries that would not exist if I had not drawn them out as so.

So I will leave this variable/symbol rather detached - so that it may shift and change form at will.

What defines 'your' (as in mine) faith -

This is a powerful question - I must define faith as I understand it and not simply nab a response from the dictionary.

I must also decide exactly who / what I am - so that I may know exactly how I came to the conclusion that 'said arrangement of knowledge' is actually "MY" definition of faith... this is problematic because I don't actually feel that I really own any 'thing' - be it material or intellectual property.

The more I think about it the more it all just falls apart again - I feel as though I am clutching at sand.

Piglet,

I very much enjoyed your posts although I must admit It felt odd when you kept referring to god as a ‘him’, honestly if I had to pick a sexuality for a ‘god’ (which I will define as a collective / emergent universal phenomenon in this particular instance) I would go with female, as females are usually seen as the bearers of life (I’m sure any zoologist would be able to site many examples which tare this little thing-ism into nothingness) but then again – how horribly arbitrary this all is - if we are going to give a sex to god we should first ask why we would take on this perspective and what it would allow us to accomplish (other wise we are just confusing our selves with random details)


/*Okay, my Iranian husband poses the question, from his childhood -
"Can God make a rock so big he can't move it?" */


How about – can god ask a question so paradoxical s/he can’t answer it?

This is possible when we place expectations on answers for example: The idea that all questions should have an answer - or the idea that the sole purpose of a question is to be answered at all (Zen maybe). Do questions require an answer that does not fluctuate? Answers are often thought of as something that is fixed in place.

My idea of a question is something that is designed to force those gears in your mind/brain to grind away a little bit and perhaps produce something that feels kind of neat when aligned with the 'question' at hand.


The Question as a catalyst to thought - as opposed to an address which posses some fixed form/idealism/thing-ism-whatever-ism


Anyway this is all irrelevant as you said - it is not that we speak of something that is 'beyond us' - This seems improbable as any 'thing' we interact with intellectualy must first be anchored to a human reality - so by the time we even get to make noise/thought/whatever about it, it has imo already (all things being probable or improbable as opposed to unavoidable or impossible) been reduced to human terms - Anthropomorphization at its best.

If we view god as some kind of entity or higher being - could god understand a human perspective? This would require forgetting a great deal of god's-self - you can't have a human perspective if you comprehend the collective effects of the uni/multi-verse which contains them - this would simply not be a human perspective at all - but a god-like one.

I'm just goofing around though - I can't stay on topic for the life of me - nor to i intend this with anything but a 'tongue-in-cheek' attitude - as i hope most of us take towards life - the universe - everything.

But maybe I’ll produce some kind of effect that reverberates through the thread forming all kinds of fun posts to read – if I’m really really lucky :D

-Me-ism like thing-ism

I love this. Expansive people, here.


I used "He" simply because it's the convention in English. I have no certainly regarding God's gender... I believe God is bigger than we're going to be able to explain using words generated by our limited brains. So thanks for tolerating my clumsy attempt to express a concept of The Deity using the lame pronouns we have to pick from.:)

We need a new pronoun. A God pronoun. One that doesn't imply the limitations of gender-based thinking.

Ge? Gim? Ger? Git?

Those are really sad. Nothing graceful or poetic about them. Someone here can do better than that, I'm sure.

It truly is arbitrary

When we use words like 'him' her' 'it'

They are just shortcuts which to the best of my knowledge serve mainly to save us valuable typing time.

For instance: if you were talking specifically about me, you would not want to be typing my name out all the time as it is a rather confusing assortment of letters. You may then decide to type it out once and it would be assumed that any future him, his, you etc.. would be in reference to me.


There is one thing these words have in common that makes them very useful for this task - they are short, usually not much more then 3 letters



like God :p

Although I do realize you were just jesting - as I am doing the same :D

Typing out long pointless posts is a hobby of mine :eyebrow:






and this one is not yet long enough yet




just a little bit further down








. <--- there. . . ya - thats the spot :rolleyes:

I wanted this topic to be free from dogma or judgment, of any form...Please allow for all of us, to be free, in our thought formation, when posting replies.

My faith, or religion (since it is a doctrine I adhere to) is one of mindfulness, awareness, and connectivity to all living matter. It is no 'big secret', but one subject to 'muddle' at times, as I am human...

Read the following song lyrics...really read them (minus my perceptions in parentheses)...and let me know:

What defines your faith...?

Please keep it to personal experience rather than the judging of others' faiths, extreme or not, it's their own. To say you have a broad view is your definition of your faith...but to say others are close minded and dogmatic...well...they very well may be, but that's not how they would define their faith. Make sense?

This would also be in accordance to this section's guidelines, not just the original poster's question.

EYEFORGOT,


Please keep it to personal experience rather than the judging of others' faiths, extreme or not, it's their own. To say you have a broad view is your definition of your faith...but to say others are close minded and dogmatic...well...they very well may be, but that's not how they would define their faith. Make sense? I wouldn't say that, if I had realized, s/he had no intention of saying those (EYEFORGOT'S) other things..

S/He says this, quite honestly


I'm just goofing around though - I can't stay on topic for the life of me - nor to i intend this with anything but a 'tongue-in-cheek' attitude - as i hope most of us take towards life - the universe - everything Please keep it to personal experience rather than the judging of others' faiths, extreme or not, it's their own. This is somewhat off on a tangent, BuT! Qinkin's sincerity, may not always come across in a person's mind.

So, are u saying, that you can tell people what to, or not to believe? eh?

What if certain/unique beliefs, are in their nature, meant to show that people with other beliefs, are disullisioned, in teh way they believe?

Pastors tell me all the time, NO! Buddhism is not the Way, Christianity Is!

One pastor told me, desiring me to, ambitiously;
"the first step to finding Jesus, is burning this (I-Ching), and pouring over this (the Bible). I have been given insight into this situation, but that leader in Christianity, was using poor speech to convey whatever message, the higher powers were sharing at that moment w/ me, someone whom he did not know, was learned to a distinguishable extent.. I don't object to either way, one chooses, if put in this situation, but I did not burn mine, nor intend to really do away with it, entirely, as if it were something that is useless in a comparative manner to other and very very similar texts of wisdom.

A dualistic approach to people's own personal (to Christians all is His, not an individual's, specifically) as we know it, is coming to a close. I feel part of the final ones who will put a stop to such nonsense on Earth.

Trust me, Religions are dogma, they are Philosophies, or Mantras for life. Therefore, one must turn a deaf ear, if one so wishes to, when u make a thread concerning faith, as w/o Religion, the philosophical term, faith, logically could not be, for possibly everyone.

But if one so chooses to gain in what they know as faith, they might also think that believing is the same thing, to everyone. They may or may not, but realistically, they do. Belief is a hope or wish for something they say they base their whole lives off of.

Faith, does not need to consult any, so called, 'thing,' seperate from themselves.


Read the following song lyrics...really read them (minus my perceptions in parentheses)...and let me know:

What defines your faith...? As thoughts are connected to things, Religion and Scriptures, are not to be considered seperate from our own selves. Maybe, boring, but they are not to all who most will say, are 'human'.

.Please allow for all of us, to be free, in our thought formation, when posting replies.Our? or Theirs? I know, I know, but to point this out, I am compelled.

My faith, or religion (since it is a doctrine I adhere to) is one of mindfulness, awareness, and connectivity to all living matter. It is no 'big secret', but one subject to 'muddle' at times, as I am human... oKKK.. U are at odds with yourself. You are not setting the soundest example for that which you intend to accomplish. Though despite the facts, I agree w/anyone who says, you did good. My mantra, i do not stir up regrets, and/or wish to condemn..

'muddle' Is why I will not go on about that, i do not wish people become 'muddled', but open.

You are human, therefore, a rebirth is in order. To say, order is just relative to the chaos that is a 'seperate' life.

I thnk this piece of Scripture, does show what ur thread may be trying to convey.



John 7:48 : "is there a single one of us rulers or Pharisees who believes in him? These ignorant crowds do, but what do they know about it? A curse on them anyway!" 50: Nicodemus, the leader who had met Jesus earlier, then spoke up. "Is it legal to conveict a man b4 he is given a hearing? he asked. 52They replied, "are you from Galilee, too?" Search the Scriptures and see for yourself---no prophet ever comes from Galilee!" I use the NLV version, but it is quite arbitrary
It truly is arbitraryThis fact, that I use the NLV, is not wrong, nor the truth in absolution to everyone.


John 3: 5: Jesus replied, "The truth is non one can enter the Kingdom of god w/o being born of water and *Spirit (or spirit, the Greek word for Spirit, can also be translated wind, from the authors of my particular Bible, it's a Beginner's Vers.. though this fact is arbitrary, but the background to the word *Spirit, is revealing and helpful for those who desire to follow their TEACHER)

6Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven. 7So don't be surprised at my statement that you* ("the Greek word for you is plural; also in [John] 3:12 - "But if you don't even believe me when I tell you about things that happen here on earth, how can you possibly believe if I tell you what is going on in heaven?" )

"... must be born again. " alluding to John 1: 12 ...

John 1: 12; "But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. they are reborn! This is not a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan--this rebirth comes from God." In the Book of John, i personally see that John was Jesus' teacher in a few ways, but Jesus was also John's teacher, but it is clear, that no emphasis is necessary as to which was the "better" teacher, that'd be unuseful.

Both names also begin with the letter "J", to me this is a thought for another time.

As I recall, Matthew 10:37: "If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine."

Jesus did not say that you need to love me more than anyone at all times, necessarily.

Verse 39 of Matthew 10: "If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give it up to me, you will find it." I am just grounding the place where my faith takes some of its roots.

I, however, in some people's eyes, may have violated the rules of the forums.

Another thing I have faith in, is stuff.....

If I have been breaking too many rules I will not be punished. So, if you kick out tccaefesfuse, throw me in as well.

Who said anything about kicking someone out? This was not my personal "dogma" nor my answer to the original question. I am a moderator explaining guidelines.

And the point is, this section is the support for ADD. The question was what is the "essence" of your faith. You may not get into a debate about "who is blind to the truth" or "who is dogmatic and narrowminded". Your oppinion about others was not asked for. It was a personal question about the deepest part of your faith, not what you think about others' faith. Get the difference?

Either refrain from your debates here and put them in the Debate Forum, where they belong, or this thread will be closed. If you have any further problems with the guidelines you may pm me.

Sorry to quote someone, but my time is limited. I should be working.;)

"We walk, and our religion is shown (even to the dullest and most insensitive person) in how we walk. Or to put it more accurately, living in this world means choosing, choosing to walk, and the way we choose to walk is infallibly and perfectly expressed in the walk itself. Nothing can disguise it. The walk of an ordinary man and of an enlightened man are as different as that of a snake and a giraffe."

in a nutshell.

bc

Sorry to quote someone, but my time is limited. I should be working.;)

"We walk, and our religion is shown (even to the dullest and most insensitive person) in how we walk. Or to put it more accurately, living in this world means choosing, choosing to walk, and the way we choose to walk is infallibly and perfectly expressed in the walk itself. Nothing can disguise it. The walk of an ordinary man and of an enlightened man are as different as that of a snake and a giraffe."

in a nutshell.

bc Loved that quote - maybe very Zen

Also enjoyed your referencing the all too familiar Nietzsche quotes (he formulated a lot of my early ideas)

EYEFORGOT - I think qinkin was just a little confused, your moderation of the thread is greatly appreciated among those of us with rather 'fleeting' minds.

Thanks though Qinkin for the apparent defense of my position - in times of dire need (this perhaps not being one of those times), I would appreciate any and all who would come to my aid.

Human relations are sure to bring with them - by nature of representational systems - a wee bit of confusion about just what exactly is being said / talked about...

That 'being said' I will now gracefully withdraw from the thread as to stir no more trouble among members and administration a like!

Thank you all for your time - it has been most enjoyable on my part!

- *Any old symbol in reference to my self will do here*

Eyeforgot, I can see your point about not saying someone else is closedminded... and I wouldn't refer to anyone here as that. I may have referred to some closedminded people I am dealing with in this area... and I hope I didn't offend anyone... but I believe it's clear that it's my opinion that they're closed minded, as opposed to a statement of fact. I just get a little weary reading opinions prefaced with "in my opinion"... and, I had a very opinionated English teacher in high school who zinged us every time we wrote that... saying "Of COURSE it's your opinion. You don't have to keep saying that. We KNOW". And I think she had a good point. It amkes for clumsy wording, to read that in front of sometihng that clearly is an editorial type thing as opposed to, factual reporting.

But I suppose I can adapt, if that's required. I don't want to offend. And not everyone has my high school English teacher in their brains, grading their writing.:)

Sorry to quote someone, but my time is limited. I should be working.;)

"We walk, and our religion is shown (even to the dullest and most insensitive person) in how we walk. Or to put it more accurately, living in this world means choosing, choosing to walk, and the way we choose to walk is infallibly and perfectly expressed in the walk itself. Nothing can disguise it. The walk of an ordinary man and of an enlightened man are as different as that of a snake and a giraffe."

in a nutshell.

bc
This was a beautiful quote. Who is the author?

Ok I am jumpin into this thread without reading all of what has been said here but here i go . . . anyways hey my ADD progative right ? :D

I am not sure what you meant by he limitations of gender-based thinking. I dont see gender as being limiting. I think its the way the roles of male & female are defined that can be limiting.

I also do not see limitations in God being defined in male terms (God the Father)

I've said to much or haven't said enough . . .;)


We need a new pronoun. A God pronoun. One that doesn't imply the limitations of gender-based thinking.

Ge? Gim? Ger? Git?

Those are really sad. Nothing graceful or poetic about them. Someone here can do better than that, I'm sure.

hmm.. maybe tccaefesfuse is gone for good?

Well, can't say i didn't try to help s/him..

but! anyway,

what defines my faith, as if not defining it, the point of this thread, could lead to some sort of mind expanding exercise, and many beliefs, re-questioned of authority.

i don' even know my own faith,

if I tried to define it, I would be limiting my faith..

therefore,

that which cannot be defined,
only showed.


lol


is my quote adequate?

I do define it by what I see, and experience, and i wanna be like the water, and the wind, Both!

they complement each other in ways..

or fire and air, which are good complements..

qk

When I say "limitatiosn of gender-based thinking", I mean, I think our concept of gender is too limiting for God. Nothing against either gneder.. it's just, not a big enough concept for a Being who can do all we attribute to God... those who believe in God, I mean.

And anyway, I like this thread a lot. I'm learning a lot and it's stretching my mind. Thanks all of you for sharing!

One day as Manjusri stood outside the gate, the Buddha called to him, "Manjusri, Manjusri, why do you not enter?" Manjusri replied, "I do not see myself as outside. Why enter?"

My gram raised me up as a Roman Catholic.

Without getting into the details, since we have all loved and lost here, I eventually learned to carry contempt for most of the Roman Catholics. Thats all I have, and care, to say on that, truly.

I guess you could call me a Neo-Pagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopaganism). I have a paradigm belief system. This system includes any other system I wish to add to it. Part of me is Buddhist. Part of me is Christian. Part of me is a Satanist. Part of me is a Wiccan.

I am a chaote and my will to find the truth guides me forward. I am not content with just opinions.

If you know what Im talking about, then you know what Im talking about. If you do not, thats fine too.





However, there is one thing that the Buddha said that I have always carried with me every day and waking moment: Even if you are not a buddhist, if you live righteously, and true, it will not matter in the end.

Thats not a direct quote but you get the idea.


My final thoughts are that I do not care to debate, or see the truth of, if God is real or not. That doesn't matter to me. I believe in a heaven and if that heaven does not exist then I will find a way to create it. But it does exist. God does exist.

How do I know this? Well I have never "spoken to God" and I have never "seen heaven" in my mind or otherwise. I have seen Hell though and I know demons to be real. The darkness is very real. That is all I need to see to be righteous.

The foundation of my faith is in Love and Truth.

However, I am a human being who makes mistakes, and has faults.

In Christian terms, I am Gods creation and I am a broken sinner.

My path to greater understanding of Gods Love and Truth for me and for all of Gods creation is through the Bible and recently, I have begun to see that I can love the Christian Bible without needing to hate or even dislike the sacred texts of other faith groups.

Accepting the Holy Sacrifice of Jesus is essential for my faith, and I also have a deep appreciation for Bapu Mahatma Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. Next to Jesus, I have never known a better example for Christians than Gandhi.

Gandhi called himself a Hindi, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, and a Jew. I am not able to say that for myself, but I can say that the world would be a much better place if we (starting with I) would turn from our consumeristic, immediate gratification seeking, pain avoiding, compassion deficient self-centered ways to The Way of Love, Truth, Compassion, Endurance, Mercy, and Serenity.

I for one have a very long way to go on my journey.

Peace :)

Andecala

me my self im catholic

my path to greater understanding of Gods Love and Truth for me and for all of Gods creation is through the Bible and recently, I have begun to see that I can love the Christian Bible without needing to hate or even dislike the sacred texts of other faith groups.That's so good, though. You know that?

i know that Lao Tze is a lot like Jesus. if my memory is serving me correctly. as 2 their teachings.

ya, I'm a Christian, but I like Buddhism and Islam stuff too.

I find it ver y interesting, that when budda was about to be born, his mother had a dream, and she went to the preist to ask him to interperet the dream,

the priests responce was....

"he will either be a very wise man, or a very foolish man"













I think buuda was very both....