Do you guys thing the Colon cleanse could help?

or ADD/ADHD don't have anything to do with toxic colon?

Thank you!!!
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In a word, NO.

I have to agree with Imnapal on this one hon sorry.

The is the first I have heard on this theory. Where did you read about it?

Are you referring to colitis????

You know now that I think about it I use a lot of methods that others feel are a waste of time. I mean honestly what could it hurt to cleanse your colon and see if you get positive results? You try it first though and let me know how if there was any significant change please.

Hugs,
Cherity

From what I have read about colon cleansing most doctors don't reccomend it using the herbal method. They do reccomend drinking plenty of water(64 oz a day), eating a high fiber diet including 5 servings of fruits and vegetables though. Vegetables like broccoli and spinach are also supposed help with colon health.

It is interesting that some of the symptoms associated with a toxic colon are memory issues and Attention. Yet the only places I could find these symptoms were on sites that were selling herbal remedies for colon cleansing.

I could see a toxic colon making ADD symptoms worse but not actually causing ADD.

I'd have to agree strongly...

No.There's nothing that I've ever come across or heard anyone mention.

80% of ADHD is inherited/genetic. The other 20% is referred to as "acquired."

The 2 main sources are traumatic brain injury and and ingestion of toxic substances like lead paint.

A toxic colon would not fall under either category.

The benefit of a healthy colon is that your body absorbs your nutrients better. When treating ADD, one wants better absorption of the meds, vitamins, healthy foods, etc. It all contributes to a general sense of well-being.

In short, if the colon is not healthy, the whole body suffers. Whether one is A.D.D. or not.

Oh great. Now I'm thinking of that stupid info-mercial on "Dual Action Colon Cleanser...." :eek:

While I heard that cleansing helps alot of things, it doesn't have anything to do with ADHD. sorry!!





Experience renewed energy. (http://dualactioncleansenow.com)

Yes, my ADHD is gone now.

Boy, I wish it were true.
Then I could take a nice big juicy crap and not have to take 3 meds a day for the rest of my life. :eek:

Well, there is a theory out there that some have prescribed to. It's called Leaky Gut. I stubled across this theory when DS was loosely "diagnosed" with IBS. I did a little more reading and found there are those that understand that leaky gut can be a contributing if not a causing factor in many learning and psychological issues. I don't know if I buy into it. I did purchase a book called "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" by Natasha Campbell_McBride, M.D." She has a medical degree in both neurology and nutrition. She has a clinical practice where she treats children through diet and healing the leaky gut. She says that it can be from birth, (from the birth mom) and that things go on in the gut that we are not physically aware of, and there's more, much more to it that taking a simple huge crap. It can take months or years to heal the gut, with a very rigid and careful (unrealistic??) diet. In the guts lie our biggest defense (immunities), and that immune responses occur with larger than normal molecules of particles passing through the gut lining due to decreased or absent healthy flora, causing toxic symptoms. Which, can be as mild as foggy days, or much serious reactions as food sensitivities and allergies.

Why I am not sure I or my son could adhere to such a healing diet, I am sure there would be a great health benefit to healing a gut damaged by years of antibiotic use (me) and the resultant stress on the body from not having that optimal flora do to the job necessary to properly process all the junk we can put into our bodies. At times, in an effort to rid my body of candida, much like thatguy82, I did feel much better, and the fog was lifted. I just could not adhere to the regimen for long.

It's an interesting read anyway, there's lots to read out there on this connection. We have been doing what we can do as part of the regimen, and I can say that DS's symptoms (IBS) have greatly decreased, and I can hope that his guts are beginning to heal somewhat from what we are doing.

There's lots of stuff that contribute to candida overgrowth too. Mercury poisoning is a major one. In The Yeast Connection he talks about a test done on sheep where they put a mercury filling in a pregnant sheep's mouth and within 3 months the sheep and the baby had mercury in their blood. Also immunizations have mercury in them as a preservative. Mom's Against Mercury have taken the FDA to court to try to ban mercury fillings, the FDA only says they are unsure about if it's dangerous. Good arguement!

I see these rip off informercials on late night Television. They make me angry and frustrated.

"Toxic" colon is a scam. :(

If our colon was blocked up ('bowel obstruction'), toxic, poisoned or dying, do we not think we'd be dying of Septic Shock?

(e.g. high fever, altered mental status, seizures, comatose, ICU-time)

Even severely constipated people will eventually wind up in the Emergency Room from the pain.

Our bowels are LOADED with sensory receptors that respond to the same chemicals as the brain. (This is why Stress hits our Gut with symptoms!)

If all this stuff were going on, we'd be in so much Pain and Agony. (Like people with Crohn's, IBS, small bowel obstruction, ulcers, diverticulitis, etc.)


First Sign of a blocked or dying bowel? The constant vomiting.
Second? Incredible abdominal pain. (Like, you'd be at the hospital, fast.)

When I was a student, we saw these patients. They are really really sick and mostly (a) in pain, and (b) listless.

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A lot of these 'colon cleaning' people are just trying to sell stuff.

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If a person wants a really clean bowel, it is a good idea to eat lots of fiber. Bran and other whole grains with lots of fiber act "like a Broom" and sweep out our colon.

The biggest menaces to the bowels are likely the "processed diet", and meat (nitrates, arachidonic acid, etc). These factors increase irritation and inflammation, and stimulate our immune systems to act to the irritation.

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(See the 4th Paragraph in this article.)
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_265-266/ai_n15341119


Those foods tend to sit in the bowel longer. It is no coincidence that most colon cancers are located in the Sigmoid colon (end of the line, where the food is the most 'rotted' and sits waiting to be 'evacuated').

http://www.imagination-institute.com/The%20Cancer%20Diet.htm

Regular bowel, erm, evacuation, is our best defense. :) Bran muffins, 1-2 cups of coffee and a Jog, and a person will need a toilet.

(My Dad used to joke about a coffee and a smoke making him need the toilet, but we won't suggest smoking here.) :)
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You can find other articles about health eating at the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine website.

www.pcrm.org (http://www.pcrm.org/)

It's worked for me and I didn't buy anything but herbal stuff. No late night television advertisements, I don't watch TV. The problem for most people is that it takes patience to get things back to normal and people with ADHD don't like to wait and don't like change. But it's worked for me, and if anyone needs to see where I was at like 4 months ago, here's my first post:

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36321

I was all for meds because something was finally working. I used that concentration to look into the real causes though and I'm glad I did. It's in every commercial/advertisement you see "There is no cure for *fill in the blank*" which translates to "We want your money, accept less than you should."

If your ADD goes away when you treat something other than your brain, it wasn't ADD in the first place. Now, you may have a comorbid condition, such as a food allergy that aggravates ADD symptoms - if treating the allergy by avoiding the food improves the ADD, then the allergy was comorbid. If it makes the ADD go away completely, it wasn't ADD, it was a food allergy. Lead poisoning leads to a completely different set of symptoms from ADD, and a doctor who confuses the two is not much of a doctor. The mercury/autism (or mercury/ADD) connection has been widely debunked by scientific study, but remains only because of a handful of vocal anti-vaxers - thimerosal has been absent from vaccines for about 30 years now, mercury in fillings for about the same time, and there's been no change in the average mercury level in our blood since then.

Colon cleansing for ADD treatment? OK, if it could change the color of our eyes or the size and number of our hair follicles, or our taste or hearing, all of which are genetically predetermined, it might be able to change our ADD, but there's no indication that it does anything. Everything that supports its effectiveness has been anecdotal or argued from incredulity. No clinical trials, no double-blind tests, no published peer-reviewed papers. Sure, once or twice it's unlikely to cause any harm, but more than that is going to have some negative effects, just as overuse of enemas or laxatives will. It'll have much more of an effect on your bank balance than anything else, though.

My doctor and shrink both diagnosed me with ADHD. I had all the symptoms of ADHD too, they're all gone now. The question originally asked that I was responding to was "Is there any possibility the ADD/ADHD be caused by a toxic colon?" and there are people saying no when if a SINGLE person can say their diagnosis of ADHD was cured by treating the colon then the answer is yes and there's no arguing that.

Also, mercury is still in tooth fillings. My own dentist tried to argue with me that mercury won't hurt me when I had a tooth filled just a month ago. He would know if there is mercury in them. Colon cleansing stuff will only cause medical problems if you don't follow that with good bacteria (probiotics) that get wiped out with all the junk. I didn't spend a lot, I used over the counter herbal extracts from the health store and ate a strict diet with lots of fiber. People forget that your stomach is connected to the rest of your body, treating your brain isn't always the right thing to do, that's treating symptoms.

The question originally asked that I was responding to was "Is there any possibility the ADD/ADHD be caused by a toxic colon?" and there are people saying no when if a SINGLE person can say their diagnosis of ADHD was cured by treating the colon then the answer is yes and there's no arguing that.Other than the fact that it couldn't have been ADHD. You must be so relieved. :D

Yes, very. I'd hate to have to live my life taking stimulants.

Here's a link to the Moms Against Mercury vs. the FDA, went to court in March. So, yes, mercury is still in tooth fillings.

http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/feature_article053.htm

I should have kept the link I found last night when the mercury discussion came up somewhere else. If memory serves, it's us old fogies who have the mercury in our mouths and as they wear out, we get new white, non-mercury fillings put in - at least that's what my dentist has been doing for years. ThatGuy82, I'm tired so would you be so kind as to find a link to current, conservative data regarding the use of mercury in fillings in current dental practice? This is an important topic.

No prob. Here's some, the previous link I posted was to a court hearing last month where the FDA was being taken to court to ban mercury tooth fillings. Also, in The Yeast Connection Handbook it talks about scientific studies done on sheep, they put mercury fillings in the mouth of a pregnant sheep. Within 3 months the sheep and offspring had mercury poisoning. But anyways, here are the links to the mercury fillings info. I'll add more later.

http://www.hugnet.com/

http://www.iaomt.org/

http://www.toxicteeth.org/dentistsDoctorsProducts.cfm

http://www.amalgam.org/

http://www.mercurypoisoned.com/

http://mercuryexposure.org/index.php?category_id=all

http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/mercury.html

http://www.nomercury.org/

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/AMALGAM/EN/SCIENCE/bernie_science.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/AMALGAM/EN/SCIENCE/bernie_science.html) <http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/AMALGAM/EN/SCIENCE/bernie_science.html> (http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Estgvisie/AMALGAM/EN/SCIENCE/bernie_science.html)

http://www.saveyourteeth.com/metals2.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm

http://www.bioprobe.com/faq.asp

And here is one to a video about the link between mercury and alzheimers:

http://commons.ucalgary.ca/showcase/curtains.php?src=http://apollo.ucalgary.ca/mercury/movies/Lor2_QTS_300kb_QD.mov&screenwidth=320&screenheight=256

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/iyh-vsv/environ/merc_e.html

Minimizing Your Risk

Elemental mercury from dental fillings doesn't generally pose a health risk. There is, however, a fairly small number of people who are hypersensitive to mercury. While Health Canada does not recommend that you replace existing mercury dental fillings, it does suggest that when the fillings need to be repaired, you may want to consider using a product that does not contain mercury.

Pregnant women, people allergic to mercury and those with impaired kidney function should avoid mercury fillings. Do not have mercury fillings removed when you are pregnant because the removal may expose you to mercury vapour. When appropriate, the primary teeth of children should be filled with non-mercury materials.


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This is what my dentist has been doing for many years. I have only a couple more old silver fillings to be replaced and my kids, who are now adults, don't have any.

If your ADD was "cured", then you didn't have it. Colon Cleansing is a bit of woo that cures nothing but an excess of cash. Now, I could easily go on and on, but it would be wasted effort, when there is someone else who has done it so well. Orac, at Respectful Insolence, is a surgeon specializing in oncological research, but debunking these wasteful, untested treatments is his personal crusade. To save some time, here are some of his posts that mention mercury: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/fastsearch?order=date&IncludeBlogs=17&search=mercuryColon cleansing brings up these results:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/fastsearch?order=date&IncludeBlogs=17&search=colon+cleansing

On Fridays, he picks out something stupendously ridiculous, and writes a special post just about that. However, he is concerned enough about people getting ripped off or even getting sicker because they're convinced that these untested, unproven treatments will help them where conventional medicine does not that the most pervasive rumors come up frequently. He knows what he's talking about and he does the research. You may want to check him out.

In addition, you might want to look at whale.to. It is a repository of alternate treatments, all of which exist primarily to fatten the wallets of their purveyors. If you see a treatment on whale.to, stay away from it. In fact, if you see a treatment that offers only anecdotal evidence for its effectiveness, you don't even need to try it. If it worked for real, they wouldn't need testimonials, they'd have published research.

The point I was making was that I WAS diagnosed with ADHD by a doctor and a shrink, they were wrong if it's true like you say that I didn't have it. So, it's also possible that the poster of this thread has been falsely diagnosed like you think I was and this could work for them/others.

I'd rather fatten the wallet of an independent company than a big pharmaceutical company any day. There are plenty of people having hard times being treated for candida overgrowth, my doctor gave me speed but refused to give me Diflucan. I treated myself with the herbal stuff from the health food store, like oil of oregano, wormwood and a good fiber pill. Which *big shock* the FDA and another organization are trying to ban herbal stuff by 2009. Too many people dropping their poisons they've been feeding us for a chance at a real life of health and happiness.

The FDA is not trying to ban herbal stuff. They're trying to get it pulled off shelves if it doesn't meet safety standards or makes unsupported claims of efficacy. Right now there are a number of herbal preparations that have dangerous levels of lead, or misrepresent the amount of stated ingredients, and claim to be able to treat diseases or symptoms without any kind of testing to prove it. They also, since they are not regulated as medicines, do not have to indicate if they might cause negative and sometimes fatal reactions in people with certain conditions or who are taking certain other pharmaceuticals or herbals. The FDA wants to be able to hold these companies liable for safe preparation, honest representation, and full disclosure.

Right now, you could walk into a health food store and poison yourself just as easily as "big pharma" could. However, you can get the facts about drug interactions, visit PubMed and check the abstracts for all the published studies on the drugs, and even sue the manufacturer of the drug or the doctor if something goes wrong. If you end up getting lead poisoning or serotonin syndrome or anaphylactic shock from something the health food store clerk recommended to you, you're out of luck. THAT is what the FDA wants to change.

When a doctor "refuses" to give you a drug, there cuold be a reason - you may be asking for the drug, and it's not indicated for your condition. It could be contraindicated for another health condition you have or medication you're taking. If you think you're being denied necessary care, you can take it up with the doctor, fight with the insurance company, get a second opinion, but you're not qualified to diagnose and treat yourself, which is what you're doing when you try an herbal "remedy". Perhaps you feel you have reason to mistrust "big pharma", but if you mistrust an industry that has strict oversight from multiple federal agencies as well as frequent medical testing from independent scientists, why in the world would you trust a company that has no disincentives whatever against fabricating ingredients and results? That's like saying you don't trust Verizon, so you're going to get your next phone from the spin-the-wheel-and-win at the carnival.

Well, treatment is over. Brain fog and memory problems are gone and just eating healthy. As long as I don't overdose on asparagus I'll be fine.

Cleansing the colon of candida has a huge affect on health. I did a candida cleanse for 2 years, but couldn't quite get completely well. I finally went to a naturopath and he told me that if I had resistant candida and mercury fillings, I had heavy metal toxicity and that causes candida. I got my fillings out and voila, I got so much better. My ND chelates heavy metals from autistic kids and he has had tremendous results. He said that sometimes their tremors stop almost immediately.

Doing a low starch diet with no dairy increases bowel transit time and helps adults and kids eliminate toxins much more efficiently. That is why so many autistic kids do so much better on a low carb diet. I agree with Thatguy, mercury from dental amalgams and vaccines have done a number on the health of us and our children. It is time to say no to mercury and other heavy metals. The diet is tough, but if it works, is it not worth it. In my mind, "Nothing tastes as good as healthy feels."

Here is a video on the effects that mercury has on our bodies.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jwnYTgToiA&mode=related&search

And if you quit eating sugar, it can make a huge difference in your health. One teaspoon of sugar can depress a child's immune system for up to 8 hours. And it can methylate stored mercury in our body and redistribute it into our brains...much of that is what contributes to autism, ADD and other disorders.

Here is a good link about sugar...

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/sugar4.php

And (sugar) it can methylate stored mercury in our body and redistribute it into our brains...much of that is what contributes to autism, ADD and other disorders.And the source of this wisdom?

http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/sugar.htm

From http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/Biot/biot_diet-immune-system.htm

Sugar

Sugar contains no nutrients. Excessive sugar intake can deplete your body of several vitamins and minerals. We recommend that you avoid consumption of any refined food or food products.

Dr. Robert McCracken, a UCLA anthropologist, faults refined sugar for some forms of diabetes, heart disease, stroke, schizophrenia, alcoholism, and even possibly some kinds of cancer⁽²⁾. He noted that members of certain primitive tribes who consume more saturated fats than Americans, have normal blood cholesterol levels and suffer from fewer diseases than Americans. His research showed that the main difference is that they never touch refined sugar.

Sugar can cause or promote fungal infections, tooth decay, skin rashes, mucus production, and intestinal candidiasis. It encourages the growth of a number of bacteria and fungi. Sugar provides a great growth medium for these microorganisms.

A high intake of sugar adversely affects the immune system. Sugar impairs the ability of white blood cells to sweep up and kill bacteria. It also robs the body of key nutrients such as zinc that is vital for the immune function.
Sugar affects everyone. But it can have serious consequences for children. Many children, who have a high intake of sugar, suffer from recurrent infections, asthma, and eczema.

What makes sugar so bad? The biggest problem with sugar is that it gets absorbed very fast. Sugar rushes through the stomach wall without being digested, stimulating excess secretion of insulin by the pancreas and causing metabolic imbalances.

Ironically, the insulin secreted to deal with refined sugar causes your blood sugar level to fall. This upsets the biochemical balance in the brain that is responsible for the production of fully 25 percent of the adult body's metabolic activity. The result: your brain begins to malfunction.

You can also search "immune system sugar" on google for a lot more info.

Ummmm. An anthropologist quoted on an "alternative medicine" site isn't the same as a medical study, and "your brain begins to malfunction" isn't "ADD". Believe me, I am fully aware that some people are sensitive to sugar for one reason or another, and it really has no nutritive value, but it belongs on the "does not cause ADD" list. Some people, with or without ADD and with or without insulin or other pancreatic problems, will have some kind of negative reaction to excess sugar consumption. However, cutting out sugar won't cure ADD OR diabetes.

I eat a healthy vegetarian diet, take my supplements, avoid artificial colors, flavors, sweeteners, and simple carbs. I exercise and have a good attitude. There's not much else I could do as far as putting things into my body or not putting things into my body to attain better health. Somehow, despite this, I still have ADD. I was born with it. I had it all through my childhood, adolescence, and adult life. Yoga didn't help, meditation didn't help, therapy helped a little, flower essences, aromatherapy, ayurvedic medicine, homeopathy, chiropractic, herbal supplements. . .nope, the brain still circulates the same chemicals the same way and fires off the same ol' neurons in response to stimuli. It's not something that can be cured. For a lot of people, the symptoms can be treated to improve mental functioning, but that's it.

On the flip side, it's not CAUSED by things like a less-than-ideal diet, exposure to lead or mercury, inadequate bowel function, or negative chi. It's the way the brain functions, the way it developed because of the genetics that formed it. Like being left-handed or right-handed, better at art than math, shy or outgoing, or learning visually or kinetically. If someone told you he just never was able to master reading music or doing calculus, you wouldn't suggest that he go for acupuncture, colon cleansing, or chelation, would you?

If someone told you he just never was able to master reading music or doing calculus, you wouldn't suggest that he go for acupuncture, colon cleansing, or chelation, would you?Yeah.

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