View Full Version : Tabbed browsers- An ADD person's best friend!


Cactus
08-07-05, 08:40 AM
I can keep an eye on a failed backup job at work that I'm rebuilding, read 2 or 3 different newspapers and watch the ADD forums all at once and in the same window. What more could I ask for?!?!?!?




PS- If you're still using IE get Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org)

You're just begging for problems otherwise.

pembroke
08-07-05, 11:16 AM
i use firefox (by mozilla) and it includes a spell-checker i can use here, among others. i like the tabbing, too. i can be in chat and on the forum boards at the same time....:p and google!

Ian
08-07-05, 03:01 PM
Take the plunge and move to Linux (http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/) for more of the same. My entire desktop environment is tabbed. I use a desktop manager called "fluxbox (http://www.fluxbox.org/)". I have six virtual desktops I can scroll through and each has tabbed everything if I so choose. Because of how Linux (http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/) manages the load, I can easily have thirty windows open and not only do I not stress the system but I am not crowded for desktop space.

Not a virus, worm or Trojan since I switched more than five years ago. Winduhs (http://www.annoyances.org/) users are just now benefiting from open source software with things like mozilla and firefox. Linux (http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/) users have been enjoying them for much longer.
Living free (http://www.gnu.org/). Ian

Cactus
08-07-05, 03:39 PM
Great links. This should be a stickey.

alala
08-07-05, 04:40 PM
Yeah, I've heard great things about Linux, and I've had that site bookmarked for a long time, but it's such a big deal to get it set up, or it seems so. Right now I need something you can just take out of the box and it works right away. Well no, right now I need not to be learning a new system, because I just don't have the time to give it. But Linux is definitely on my list for when things calm down around here (har, har).

P.S., yup, I love tabbed browsing on Firefox

Ian
08-07-05, 05:16 PM
A lot of people can't seem to make the commitment. The hoop you have to jump through is bigger than you think. Arguably, the best way to get up to speed is to contact your local LUG (Linux users group) and see if you can arrange to get some help at an install fest and let others deal with getting Linux installed for you the first time.

Most Linux users groups will be happy to help someone get a foot hold.

An install fest is where a LUG or a group of LUGs will get together and offer free geek services for people wanting to run Linux. This is an excellent way to get up and running. The geeks on site have the support of other geeks and you get to watch and make notes and participate as much as you'd like.

Most aim to have a dual boot setup so you have the option of running winduhs or Linux. If you get into trouble in one, you can bail out to the other. That's the way I started and I still have a windoz partition here, but it's very seldom used now and never for Internet use.

Many peoples first exposure to Linux is in the way of a "live cd". A "live cd" is just a rockin' good boot disc. No install is required and when you reboot, all is back the way you started. Knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) is one that sees good use here as a boot disc and ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) is another I hear good reviews from. Both will give you a good look at Linux if your hardware isn't too flaky. Linux is hard on flaky hardware.

Of course all is available for free download if you have the bandwidth. If not, your LUG can usually supply discs for about $5/disc. In Canada I use chguy (http://www.chguy.com/) and sometimes cheapbytes (http://www.cheapbytes.com/) if I'm in need of a US source.

Here is an interesting pdf file of a book called "The Cathedral and the Bazaar (http://ca.geocities.com/weejuans/media/cathedralbazaar.pdf)" by a mouth piece for Linux, Eric Raymond. It makes some interesting points about why and how Linux works socially. It's not terribly long.

Windows is for most people. You follow common people and you get
what they do. If you don't, you get what they don't.

"Human by birth, tangy by nature" - Ian

livinginchaos
08-08-05, 01:34 PM
I really like mozilla's firefox - but I really really dislike that I can't paste..

Or am I missing something? I highlight, right click - I can copy, but then I go to paste and I don't get that option.

alala
08-08-05, 01:42 PM
Hm. I can paste using ctrl-v, but I don't see paste in the right-click menu. I never noticed that before.

@Ian: definitely will get to it at some point, no really, I will. I just need time to tinker, and a mentor, I don't really have them right now. The local LUG is most likely in Munich, tricky right now as I have small children. The next few years are a bad time for it, but once my schedule opens up, it's high on my list.
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Cactus
08-08-05, 02:15 PM
I can paste from Firefox. Wonder what the differnce is?

pembroke
08-08-05, 03:18 PM
I really like mozilla's firefox - but I really really dislike that I can't paste..

Or am I missing something? I highlight, right click - I can copy, but then I go to paste and I don't get that option.
i can't paste with the right-click, either. i just go up to edit and click on paste. that works.

livinginchaos
08-08-05, 03:23 PM
Cool! Thanks, Alala and pembroke!

UnleashTheHound
08-08-05, 03:25 PM
tabbed browsing. An ADDers worst enemy, because by the end of every session I have about 30 tabs open, many of which I planned on looking at 'later'. :D

I do use Linux almost exclusively for about 10 years now. The only thing I really use Windows for the newest games. (Yes, I know about Transgaming, I just don't feel like paying for it)

HighFunctioning
08-08-05, 04:54 PM
I mostly use Mozilla with the Adblock and Spellbound extensions. I sometimes use Konqueror on Linux, which also supports tabs and spell checking as you go (in a Microsoft Word way). Unfortunately, I cannot completely detach myself from that dreaded OS, so Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.org) is my best friend. At work, I don't even surf using a Windows browser. I just SSH to my FreeBSD system at home and use a combination of GNU Screen (http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/) and Links (http://links.sourceforge.net/).

Cactus
08-08-05, 05:51 PM
by the end of every session I have about 30 tabs open, many of which I planned on looking at 'later'. Well, yeah, there is that........:(

Cactus
08-08-05, 06:00 PM
At work, I don't even surf using a Windows browser. I just SSH to my FreeBSD system at home and use a combination of GNU Screen (http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/) and Links (http://links.sourceforge.net/). Good idea! I've got redundent T3s comming into the office though, and I have my workstation patched into the same gig switch (for testing purposes of course;)) so in that environment Windoze really does work for me.

Uminchu
08-08-05, 07:24 PM
I really like FireFox, although there are a few annoyances. Some are sites like npr.org, where FireFox doesn't seem to work at getting audio streaming going.

Also, this is most likely not an issue to most people here, but I often use Japanese in my work. To type Japanese, you need to switch to a front-end-processor (FEP) that translates your key presses into Japanese characters. Working with multiple IE browsers, I can have each one set individually to Japanese or English input. But on FireFox, you set Japanese input in one tab and it's Japanese in all of them, and vice versa. A minor irritant but it still gets on my nerves...

BTW, I used a Mac at home and Unix at work until I started translating. Then one of my clients actually bought me a Windows system to avoid various file-format problems we were having. I've bought nothing but Windows boxes since, and haven't used a Mac since I donated my old Power PC to the Goodwill.

Nowadays, you can buy a computer from Dell with Linux pre-installed, and they'll knock a couple hundred dollars off the price compared to a Windows install. So Linux is much more mainstream today.

livinginchaos
09-20-05, 03:42 AM
hey! All of you FireFox computer wizards! I need some help!

The IT guy, we contract out at work, had to put my computer on work's network. I now have 2 log-in's I can use. Does that make sense?

So, now I'm trying to transfer all of my Firefox bookmarks, user names and passwords to my other log in name (basically - my profile). but it's not working, even when I go under my admin's log in to transfer the files.

I went on Firefox's website to see if they had any info and I tried everything they said to try - numerous times, without any luck.

What else can I try?? Thanks for any help any of you can muster!

HighFunctioning
09-20-05, 05:56 AM
hey! All of you FireFox computer wizards! I need some help!

The IT guy, we contract out at work, had to put my computer on work's network. I now have 2 log-in's I can use. Does that make sense?

So, now I'm trying to transfer all of my Firefox bookmarks, user names and passwords to my other log in name (basically - my profile). but it's not working, even when I go under my admin's log in to transfer the files.

I went on Firefox's website to see if they had any info and I tried everything they said to try - numerous times, without any luck.

What else can I try?? Thanks for any help any of you can muster!

If you go to Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks, there is an import function under File > Import in the bookmark manager. You need to import your bookmarks from a file. The bookmarks file under your old account is something like:

C:\Documents and Settings\&lt;Your Old Username&gt;\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\&lt;some arbitrary name&gt;\bookmarks.html

That's assuming that you are using Windows.

It may be necessary that you log into your old account and copy the file above to a place where your new account can access. I don't remember the default permissions for user's home directories.

satrow
09-20-05, 06:38 AM
Alternatively, assuming your Import/Export functions are working, start Firefox in the profile you have your bookmarks/favorites stored then go - Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks > Export.

This will give you a page with all your bookmarks that you can open in your new Firefox profile - use it as a homepage or add it to your new Bookmarks.

Andy.

livinginchaos
09-20-05, 11:06 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you, both!! I'm going to try these now.

mmcclure79
09-21-05, 10:57 PM
news for all of you who really like IE. IE 7 is supposed to have tabbed browsing. I for one love the portable build of Firefox. passwords, bookmarks and all on a pen drive for little ole me! :D

ATInick
03-14-06, 05:46 PM
NO ONE USE FIREFOX!!! a new virus(worm) has come out that I have just bbeen informed of USE AVANT BROWSER www.avantbrowser.com (http://www.avantbrowser.com) tabbed with antiviral ooptioons it also has a cool option that if you close it or restart itll save the pages you were at so no need to add fav. well yea but you know what i mean

macsterdam
03-14-06, 06:55 PM
Yeah, tabs are a must in any browser, however, I prefers Omniweb's tabs over Firefox's as they are graphical thumbnails. A short movieclip here: Tabs in Motion (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/gallery/movies/01_tabs.html) Other benefits of Omniweb over any other browser are Workspaces (http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/gallery/movies/04_workspaces.html) and Zoom text editor (http://www.omnigroup.com/images/images-5/features/ZoomEditor.png).

ATInick
03-14-06, 07:10 PM
we noobs dont use macs! lol jk very nice

HighFunctioning
03-15-06, 12:36 PM
Elinks (http://elinks.or.cz) supports tabbed browsing as well. :)

william tell
03-15-06, 12:45 PM
Get real -OPERA OPERA OPERA OPERA OPERA OPERA OPERA OPERA

The best Browser on earth love it

Fredde
03-23-06, 04:37 PM
tabbed browsing. An ADDers worst enemy, because by the end of every session I have about 30 tabs open, many of which I planned on looking at 'later'. :D

I do use Linux almost exclusively for about 10 years now. The only thing I really use Windows for the newest games. (Yes, I know about Transgaming, I just don't feel like paying for it)

I had (/have) the same problem. I created a bookmark folder called "Temp" on the bookmarkbar for easy access, where I dragged everything I wanted to look at "later"... Do I need to say that I have totally lost control of that folder ;-)

ClearConfusion
03-23-06, 06:55 PM
I have a huge bookmark folder...and no categories. :eek:

...and yes, a lot of the look-at-later-stuff goes there.

Tabs; sometimes I have so many tabs open in one window that I can't access them all without closing some.

Ian
03-23-06, 06:58 PM
Linux firefox has a word search in the bookmark manager that is very sweet. :D

ClearConfusion
03-23-06, 07:06 PM
Really?!

I didn't know that.

Great! :D

Thank you for a valuable piece of information, Ian! ;) :)

Ian
03-24-06, 11:31 AM
Have you got yours configured to open a link in a new tab by pressing the middle button on your mouse? I love that one.
Cheers!

chameleon
03-24-06, 11:58 AM
I have to share this (http://static.flickr.com/48/110129102_5c6697ceee.jpg?v=0) cute little Firefox!

mrloveitall
05-02-06, 07:10 PM
I found two amazing things related to this, one is Entbloess 2 and other Reveal plugin for firefox, both programs make switching applications a dream galore caus it zooms in and out nicely no need to press tiny buttons to close and open windows etc.

Oh and I use a program called strokeit "mouse gestures" heh aswell with reveal so I dont have to press f2 to make the tabs.

chameleon
05-02-06, 07:12 PM
I LOVE Easy Gestures!!! :D

chameleon
05-02-06, 07:12 PM
Oh I don't like Stroke It, I'm too much of a spaz :p

william tell
05-02-06, 08:04 PM
in opera you can create folders in your bookmarks but
one of the best software programs I have is called aston (http://www.astonshell.com/) -it takes your desk top and puts the icons in a folder accessable by clicking the start tab and then you can use any picture you want to be your unblemished desktop or go here (http://themes.astonshell.com/themes/page1.html) and get one -they have some really nice ones there all written for aston and come with some really great plugins

turbofish
05-07-06, 07:15 PM
Tabbed browsers - couldn't live without them. I use IE 7, Avant [works with IE engine], Firefox, and Opera. Right now, I have Avant open with 4 tabs, Firefox open with a few more tabs, and gobs of other stuff.
I alreay use dual monitors, still can't get everything that I need so I moved one step futher: Virtual Desktops. I know, you Linux people have had that for years but I still have to work - can't do that with Linux [I work with SQL servers along with MySQL and do windows based programming. I have yet to see a Linux desktop in the workplace although I have setup Linux servers]. Way back in the ol' days, I used LiteStep to move around with more desktops but that wasn't the most stable thing around.

Here is an old screen shot of my desktop
http://www.turbofish.com/desktop.htm

It's already changed quite a bit.

Always way too many apps running and always searching for ways of being able to run more. That way I don't have to shut a thought down, I can just Alt-Tab and get back to it later. Too bad I can't do that as well when I'm not in front of a computer!