I really don't know if this has anything to do with ADD or some other disorder, but I have never heard of this type of typo, so I thought I'd see if anyone has heard of this.

When typing, I will often substitute not homonyms, but similar sounds, like p/b and t/d.

Some examples:
peak -> beak
to -> do
crease -> grease
sat > sad

(If you know of linguistics I am usually subsituting a voiceless consonant for its voiced equivalent)

I also sometimes substitute totally different words that sound vaguely similar.

Example:
healthcare -> welfare

Finally, another thing I do that is probably not related is type my train of thought instead of what I am supposed to be typing. This is especially common when I am tired. So I will get sentences like
"This technology significantly reduces the footprint of but the third one was the best."

Does anyone experience this, or know if there is a name for it?

I just do the standard transposing letters. Leaving off the last letter. Sometimes leave out a portion of a sentence. Sometimes the whole sentence. I have to proofread everything I write.

Being a translater I could see it being a pain in the a** but I wouldn't get to bent out of shape over it.

man...what I do on a typewriter...English teachers would lock me up if they could.:D....Sunshine????:D:D:D:D:D

man...what I do on a typewriter...English teachers would lock me up if they could.:D....Sunshine????:D:D:D:D:D
Well, thanks for the perspective.

... Drat, I just did it again.

Check the pad surfaces -> Check the bad surfaces :confused:

I haven't been as rigorous as you in qualifying my typing mistakes, but they amaze me with their frequency and variety. I have to proof everything 2 or 3 times and then sometimes miss something. Not only do I transpose letters and words, I substitute homonyms (sp), similiar words, words that came from somewhere out of the blue, and connect unconnected sentence thoughts. Don't know the name for any of it though. What I can't figure out if it's getting worse, or I just never used to catch the mistakes before meds.:confused:

Scattered

I'm notorious for character transpositions. I have to check what I do as I type it. I am sort of a computer programmer, so I am used to doing this anyway. It is definately an acquired skill. As far as typewriters go, I'm glad those days are past us. I don't think there is enough erasing fluid in the world for all of us.

I often type the wrong character beginning a word, but there is no pattern to it. I'll mix up vat for bat (notice the close proximity of the two keys on a standard QWERTY board), etc.

Uminchu Wording switching is very common to me.
I think it's part of dyslexia.
But who knows half the time I'm not sure myself if something is my AD/HD or my dyslexia.
This happens when I read, type and sometimes even speak.
When reading I have to reread to see the mistake.
All of this is much worse when I'm tired.

I often type the wrong character beginning a word, but there is no pattern to it. I'll mix up vat for bat (notice the close proximity of the two keys on a standard QWERTY board), etc.
Yeah, I do that too. But the weird thing with these typos is that the keys are far apart.

For example, b vs. p. Their only similarity is that they are pronounced similarly.

Then of course, there are the "finger memory" typos, like sticking a 'g' onto any word ending in "in" and typing "be" instead of "by"...

Fun stuff! :D

There is no name for it. lol You can't count on your fingers and your mind to coordinate perfectly...everyone makes typo errors... <3

what types of dyslexia are there? b/c I mix up numbers all the time. I'll read them and I swear I read them right and they end up being different. Also, when I am speaking I'll say "I have a beer full of fridge" instead of the other way around or I'll stick endings on beginnings and vice versa? Is that normal?

Jami Lea You can find the info on dyslexia here.

http://www.addforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=66

can you all read this:

dd you knw tht you cn wrte wrds wtht the vwls, as lng as the vwls are nt th frst or lst lttr?

can you all read this:

dd you knw tht you cn wrte wrds wtht the vwls, as lng as the vwls are nt th frst or lst lttr?

I'm sure you'll enjoy:
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2156

LOL,
actually THAT was what i was trying to say. *embarassed laugh* Oops.
i knew it was something like that. :)

I do exactly the same thing. It gets a lot worse when I am stressed.

I don't think it is true dyslexia (someone correct me if I am wrong). I think it amounts to being in a hurry. I do it when reading or writing, I seldom handwrite so I use a computer mostly. I also get the letter order wrong a lot when typing I think that is simply poor typing skills. But I do notice that I often leave letters out of words when writing by hand, which seems odd to me.

Me :D



I really don't know if this has anything to do with ADD or some other disorder, but I have never heard of this type of typo, so I thought I'd see if anyone has heard of this.

When typing, I will often substitute not homonyms, but similar sounds, like p/b and t/d.

Some examples:peak -> beak
to -> do
crease -> grease
sat > sad
(If you know of linguistics I am usually subsituting a voiceless consonant for its voiced equivalent)

I also sometimes substitute totally different words that sound vaguely similar.

Example:healthcare -> welfare
Finally, another thing I do that is probably not related is type my train of thought instead of what I am supposed to be typing. This is especially common when I am tired. So I will get sentences like"This technology significantly reduces the footprint of but the third one was the best."
Does anyone experience this, or know if there is a name for it?

Does anyone's handwriting change all the time?

if i'm writing something and i get distracted, then start again, the new writing looks COMPLETELY different.
I had to practice to get my signature the same

I don't think it is true dyslexia (someone correct me if I am wrong). I think it amounts to being in a hurry. I do it when reading or writing, I seldom handwrite so I use a computer mostly. I also get the letter order wrong a lot when typing I think that is simply poor typing skills. But I do notice that I often leave letters out of words when writing by hand, which seems odd to me.


Sometimes I wonder if the reversals are due to the slow communication between parts of the brain (not enough "white matter"). Do the reversals happen when entering pairs using alternate hands?

Speedo, I'm a reading specialist and am married to a dyslexic -- what we're talking about here isn't dyslexia -- if anything it's dysgrahia (problems with writing). Dyslexia is problems with reading. I'm guess that for most of us it's not that either -- quite possibly just distraction as our mind get ahead of our fingers. Although I was just reading something about there being a possible similar cause link between spelling and writing problems and ADHD, so that's possible too.

Scattered

what we're talking about here isn't dyslexia -- if anything it's dysgrahia (problems with writing). Dyslexia is problems with reading.


Problems with reading can and does spill over into the writting.....I have dyslexia and often see words wrong...some where around here a member had writting some thing about "hot web hosting"(advertizing guildline violation) but the words were done like this hotwebhosting...I saw hot bed hosing...which brought to mind potty training efforts in my childrens younger years. Of coarse I had to re-read the thing and decifer....when the words process wrong in one part of my brain they do not make scense to another part like i was no where near the general parenting section!!!!!!

I read fairly fast for a dyslexic and my ability to read in contex rates off the scales because of the way I have to process and defipher things I read. If it weren't for the contex of senteces I would be unable to read at all..placing several words at random on paper and I could tellyou what half of them menat in and of them self...kind of hard to explain..... however because my brain does not see the words like they are written it makes spelling and scenstece structure some what of a challenge. I have learned I can process/ manage input in what ever why it makes scense to all parts even if that is not the way others see it. However writting is more like translating because I have to retrieve information then put it in a form that others will be able to understand.

I can see cat as ..- as long as every time I see ..- I piture a furry purring animal with four legs that goes meow..however if I were to put --/ in a scentence no one would have a clue this was bird..I have to translate to b..i...r..d so you can understand!!!


I also fumble with words finding it had to manage them in a way that makes scense...this post is an example of what al would look like if I only spelled checked them as I wrote instead of editing or writting on a word processing program.


By the way dyslexia can be amusing when combined with ADD....like the hosed bed thing!!!!!!!!

My writing looks like chicken scratch on speed and my typing well,,,, I also miss this and that but I catch myself sometimes typing the right word but before I realize I needed to type it. So then I type it twice not realizing that I already typed it. make since. Anyway,,, I am glad to know that you all can read my typing :) or maybe you just pretend. lol

I think it amounts to being in a hurry.
I only do this when I am quickly keyboarding "conversation" online and don't do a thorough editing job. I do not do this when writing by hand, even when in a hurry.

I only do this when I am quickly keyboarding "conversation" online and don't do a thorough editing job. I do not do this when writing by hand, even when in a hurry.

Do you keyboard with both hands? This may be the difference. Our minds may plan out to type two characters at the same time -- one with one hand, one with the other. If you don't time it out properly, you make a transposition. This isn't possible writing on pen and paper, unless you happen to write with two pens a the same time, alternating hands.

It also may have to do with deciding what finger to use to make a keystroke. That decision is likely to take much less thought than actually thinking about what character to write, thus being more likely to mess up. I often start a word with the incorrect character when writing on paper, but I can often correct it well before the character is fully written.

Yes, I keyboard with both hands. I once earned my living as a typist so that isn't the problem.

I can't say that it happens just when my mind is racing, because I periodically do it when I'm tired, etc. But often I will drop words or endings or just the opposite, add words and endings...some of them make sense, others I wonder, where the heck did that come from.

The thing that bothers me the most is when my brain is a few steps in front of my hands and I combine words. I'll type the beginning of one and put the ending to another word together, which is very interesting, especially when I'm in chat or pm. Thankfully, those that know me well understand what I'm trying to say. It frustrates the heck out of me and there are those days that I waste time trying to correct, so very often I get...ikwym.

Now, when it comes to my handwriting, I've never been able to successfully take notes. I always have to rewrite them for the information to be of any use to me, if I can make out what I've written in the first place. There's that whole being able to listen, absorb, and write all at the same time that has been an issue for me. In addition to this, I've noticed recently how difficult it is for me to write a short message, even in a card. I usually take another piece of paper, write out the message that I want and then add it to the card once I'm satisfied with the content.

lol...I recall as a kid being upset when the teacher would tell us that she didn't want a report in pencil but pen was required. My heart would sink because I knew that there would be many drafts in my future. I never felt more blessed when I first saw the advertisement for the erasable pen...thank GAWD. They weren't cheap but I HAD to have them. They definately saved me a LOT of time. ahhhhhhh, the days before I had access to word processing :D

One of many reasons that I appreciate the forums is that I have the ability to proof and edit what I post. Although, there are some here that beat me to the punch when it comes to posting but oh well :p

I either leave the letters out or switch two adjavent letters. It is more about accuracy in typing and hand coordination, I thikn. It gets worse when I am stressed.

I thik it is just as simple as my being too rushed, and perhaps my motor skills decline a bit whern I am overloaded.

I'm leavoing all if my usual typos in so you can see what my "normal" typing is like without corrections. I'm, fairly rested today, so
I am dpinf (doing) pretty good. I'll try to post here sometyime when I am overlaoded or stresed and we can see whayt te difference is.

I do have terriglbe handwriting and I have to rite very slowly to makew it neat enough for others to read. Even at that I will mispell words that I know how to spell and spot it latwer when I read it.

I hope the typos are not too annoying, but I wanted you to see my "normal" typing.
Most of tyhe mistakes are adjacentt letters on the keyboartd, so I think it is mostly about typing accuracy and fine motor skills that decline when I am strewssed.

After a funeral recnetly I was so stressed I was not able to deal with thew bottons on the cuff of my shirt. I was all fumbbles and had tpo pause a little bit to gather myself enough to deal with the buttoin...

As far as communicatoins between different part s of my brain goi, I already kow my limbic system and cortical lobes are affected (add and sensory issues), so the answer there is probably "yes".

Especially if you notice that I often end a word with the first letter of the next weork and still start the nexct workd with the correct letter.

Let's see what happens to my typing the next tinme I meltdown. :p

Me :D



Sometimes I wonder if the reversals are due to the slow communication between parts of the brain (not enough "white matter"). Do the reversals happen when entering pairs using alternate hands?

I'm leavoing all if my usual typos in so you can see what my "normal" typing is like without corrections. I'm, fairly rested today, so
I am dpinf (doing) pretty good. I'll try to post here sometyime when I am overlaoded or stresed and we can see whayt te difference is.


Speedo----aparently I can not only write dyslexic I can read it. I had to go back and look for mis-spelled words in your post as I did not notice them the first time through... I was able to read through your uneditted versions as quickly as I can the editted ones.

I can read miss spelled words without having to decipher because all of my reading is done in contex.... difficult to explian this really......my reading depends more on the whole than on individual parts therefore spelling errors are less of a problem.Mis-spelled words don't interfere with my abilty to understand ...

When working in a doctors office any time a chart was mis-filed thus impossible to find I was always elected to do the search and rescue. Rarely did it take me long to find the miss filed chart. I don't know how I just knew where to look. I was often asked to do search and rescue of missing charts but I was also asked NOT to file!!!!!! Hmmmm think there could be a connection?????

The word eroor or mane (error/name) come out this way naturally!!!!! Being able to read and write requires me to access several parts of my brain that act in unison with my processing functions.

Like reading: one part does the intake and processing then there is another part that "files" or makes scense of what is processed. I call it the "huh" part??? When the information is processed wrong..the huh part bases it's reaction from a comparison to the "enviroment" or content. Like if I am reading a post about relationships and some thing comes along and gets intrupted as bed wetting..... the "filing part" goes .......Huh?? I have to re-read and re-process. I know these parts work together all the time ..huh usually occures when one part (intake) is trying to go faster than the second part that "files" or comprehendes.

Writting is a much more complicated process I am amazed I can even accomplish this task..... I do longer post in word so I can get thoughts out quicker and spelling eooror can be corrected faster. Some times my spelling is so bad word doesn't even have any guesses!!!!!


Funny thing is I can "feel" the different parts interacting inside...closest I can come to explanation !!!!!!!!


The type of dyslexia I have has a name but apparently I didn't file it in a place I could access it..as I do not remember the exact name. It has to to with my visual processing. I can't see angles but I can feel them.

When trying to throw I rock at an annoying squirl yesterday I couldn't get near him with my eyes open.This stupid squirl refused to quit chattering. I wanted to get close enough to him with a rock so he would go away...I didn't want to hit or hurt him. So I closed my eyes and aimed for the sound. I was more accurate with my eyes closed...I hit the brance he was sitting on the first try!!!!!! Once my visual is eliminated the limitation is eliminated!!!!!!

Maybe I should learn touch typing . :p

I am curious about high functioning's idea of processing errors due to communications errors in the brain.
I keep catching myself skipping letters as I type. I think if the letter to type, and then I hit the one after it.... etc. It is a little odd.

ME :D

Maybe I should learn touch typing . :p

I am curious about high functioning's idea of processing errors due to communications errors in the brain.
I keep catching myself skipping letters as I type. I think if the letter to type, and then I hit the one after it.... etc. It is a little odd.

ME :D

It was purely speculation. It's not that anything is broken, but it's the speed. It's like putting 66mhz RAM in a 100mhz bus system. Nothing is actually broken, but problems occur.

Here's some interesting information (not pertaining directly to ADD):


The new data shed light on earlier observations concerning the corpus callosum, a large body of nerve fibers that connects the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Those studies showed that women have a relatively larger corpus callosum than men. The corpus callosum, however, is composed of white matter, the tissue type seen in this study at lower overall proportions in women than men in the brain, suggesting that evolution has placed a priority on this structure in women.

"The implication of women having more white matter connecting between the hemispheres of the brain is that they would have better communication between the different modes of perceiving and relating to the world," says Raquel Gur. "On the other hand, men would demonstrate a stronger concentration on working within any one of those modes."



This research has led Dr Just to offer an explanation for autism. He calls it “underconnectivity theory”. It depends on a recent body of work which suggests that the brain's white matter (the wiring that connects the main bodies of the nerve cells, or grey matter, together) is less dense and less abundant in the brain of an autistic person than in that of a non-autist. Dr Just suggests that abnormal white matter causes the grey matter to adapt to the resulting lack of communication. This hones some regions to levels of superior ability, while others fall by the wayside.



To better understand these differences, this study was conducted to determine differences in brain scans between low-functioning autism (LFA), high-functioning autism (HFA), and Asperger syndrome , and to determine differences between two different scanning sites used in this study. At both Stanford and UC Davis sites, subjects with LFA (13 boys), HFA (18 boys), AS (21 boys), and control subjects (21 boys) were given brain scans (magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI) to assess differences in brain anatomy. Subjects ranged from 7.9-17.9 years of age.
Dr. Lotspeich and her colleagues found brain (cerebral) gray matter volumes were enlarged in HFA and LFA compared with controls; however, in AS, brain grey matter volumes were intermediate between HFA and controls. In HFA (not AS), there was a negative correlation between cerebral gray matter volume and performance IQ (greater volumes were associated with lower IQs). There were no significant differences in white matter volumes in the groups. In AS (not HFA), there was a positive correlation between white matter volume and performance IQ (greater volumes were associated with higher IQs). The two study sites showed differences in neuroimaging results.


Since the left-brain supposedly controls the right side of the body and vice versa, it would seem that the white matter connecting the two halves would be very important in typing. Just a thought.

I have links to those very articles in the pathology thread in autism. I put them in earlier today. :)

Maybe they will soon have a test for autism and AS.


Me :D

I'm a pretty speedy typer, and would probably be faster if I didn't have to stop every few words to correct a mistake. That's when I catch them.
:rolleyes:

Sometimes I leave out whole sentences and jump to the next thought, not just when typing but also when speaking. Some of the typos are like thing for think (those letters are typed by different hands) or putting a space in a word like b e (be) or adding a letter, especially the letter 'i' (yoiu). My handwriting is horrible so I generall print but I tend to start rushing to keep up with my mind and then it all gets very sloppy anyway. I know there's more but I can't think of it all at the same time.
:faint: