View Full Version : Little Tip-Toe Rocker ~ Advice please
FlyGurl 09-16-05, 05:02 PM I need a tip!!!
My daughter is 2 she rocks all the time...50% of the time with her blankie if she finds it before she goes to bed...I hide it cause if she gets it she'll rock for hours. Or just with her hands holding her chest....she rocks so much I'm just praying she won't go bald in the back of her head cause that part is always flat unless I can get a pony tail in it....
She also tip-toes...with shoes on and without shoes on.....and it's not just on hard floors .... I asked my friend about it last night she said she's noticed but didn't want to alarm me....said that her second cousin had to get a type of brace on her ankels/feet to help with the tip-toes when she was about 2-3 yrs old...oh yeah and she (my dd) is also a bit pigen-toed.
Wow, i just wrote a ton of stuff and got off topic.. :)
Okay so anyone else have "issues" with their kids in regards to this???
any information would be great .... and you can e-mail me information to! :)
Thank you so much!!
KMiller 09-17-05, 12:14 AM Without meaning to be alarmist, I recommend perhaps seeing a doctor about this soon.
When I first read the post, it reminded me of something I had noted in a class form last year. Having pulled out my notes (the class was on Speech and Language Disorders), my concerns were confirmed: toe-walking and rocking are both early indicators of autism or other pervasive developmental disorders. In videos I've studied about Pervasive Developmental Disorders, toe walking and hand flapping are predominant behaviors.
Of course, this is not by any means a diagnosis. Many other factors could contribute to these behaviors, and Autism/PDD are certainly not the only possibilities. However, the conditions you've mentioned lead me to recommend that you see a doctor about this and allow him to evaluate her behavior and come to a conclusion.
I have to agree about seeing a doctor ASAP. Rocking and repetitive motions are definite hallmarks of Developemental Disorders. I'd also do some research on Occupational Therapist within your area. Look for one who is SIPT certified (if in the US) or has a sensory background. Even if She does not have an Autism spectrum disorder, There is definitely a sensory integration dusfunction going on. The rocking is done as a self-stimulation technique..it probably calms her. Toe walking is a proprioception problem and there are some very easy things you can do at home.
Either way I'd get a copy of Carol Kranowitz The Out of Sync Child and the sequel The Out of Sync Child Has Fun. Both are very parent-friendly books that will help you understand the sesory issues involved as well as give you strategies to decrease the problems. Don't dispair though. There is a lot of good help out there and these behaviors can be decreased, but you need to see your doctor as soon as you can get in.
I have two children with sensory issues and I can tell you the earlier you address them the easier they are to diminish.
Since I wrote this reply I have added a Thread.that describes and addresses some of the sensory issues and gives some decent links about it.
Check it out:
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21314
Here's also a link on autism. Your daughter may not have autism at all but here's some informations from a very reliable source.
http://www.autism-society.org
I agree with what has been said already,unless it is causing any problems-I personally think it would be better to let her have the blanket,as they are predictable and comforting-to me,the blanket was security and I knew it was safe and predictable.
What does your daughter do when you take away the blanket?
Most people are said to stim(which can range from repetitively tapping a pen to rocking,and rocking+banging the head on the wall),but stimming is a lot more pronounced in autistics.
FlyGurl 09-19-05, 11:15 AM When I take away the blanket from my daughter she normaly just keeps rocking with her hands on her chest and her head down....then after a time she'll get up and go play...
Normaly when I see her with her blanket in the middle of the day I'll try to get her to go play with her barbies or we'll color or dance to her music.
Also I was just thinking about this, she doesn't like to jump up and down...she knows how (like on a bed) but won't do it for more than a second then she's on her butt jumping up and down with her legs...it's very amazing she has some major muscles in her tummy and legs she can "bounce" with her feet back to back and stand all the way up then land on her butt again and keep going... but yeah she won't jump "normal"
I'll call her Doc. and ask him to see her ASAP....what do I do though if he says it's just a faze and all kids do this and I don't need to stress? I have a feeling he'll say this or when she goes there she'll act "normal" then i'll look like the worried mum.
Should I video tape her?
KMiller 09-19-05, 01:09 PM Taping has been used in clinical diagnoses for some time, and may help. Having footage of it for the doctor to review is very useful, and I do recommend it. I don't think it's very likely that the doctor will say this is 'just a phase,' because based on everything I've learned to date, this is not a normal phase. While there is a chance it's not autism/PDD, it's pretty likely, based on what I've gathered, and even if it's not, it's still likely something that will need to be worked out with therapy.
FlyGurl 09-19-05, 02:20 PM I know I should just be asking her Doc. this but I have another question about my DD
She is very smart, Can count to ten, says almost all the normal colors, Knows peoples names and speaks clearly, She can also say a sentence of six words or more without having trouble...She can "help" make her bed and is fully potty-trained with the exeption of bedtime. She can handle small task that are given to her and even knows how to color a circle...she doesn't do a proper one but she knows the motions of it. She also pretend plays with her dolls. She can hear a song once and know just about all the words...she can also watch a movie once or twice at most and repeat or say the words before they happen or tell me before a part of the movie takes place what is going to happen.
Is all of that normal?
But then there are these other "special" things that just aren't going away... shes amazing and I love her just want to help her out. :)
I'm gonna ask my friend about his video tape tonight and see if I can start to take some footage...i think that will help me out abit with her Doctor.
KMiller 09-19-05, 02:29 PM She's two years old and she can do all of that? That's extraordinarily developmentally advanced.
Crybaby1898 09-19-05, 02:43 PM I really dont' know ow to respond but one thing comes to mind. She is healthy so just go see a doctor about this and see what he says. You and your child will be in my prayers andi will you the best of luck.
Uminchu 09-19-05, 03:07 PM Howdy FlyGurl:
Sounds like you have a great, smart, and fun little girl.
I've just been reading up on Asperger's because my neighbor's daughter has it. From what I've read, kids with Asperger's have many Autistic symptoms, average to above-average intelligence, and are often very precocious in language development. Probably worth checking out by a doctor, as other have said.
sgolden5374 09-21-05, 08:20 PM I know I should just be asking her Doc. this but I have another question about my DD
She is very smart, Can count to ten, says almost all the normal colors, Knows peoples names and speaks clearly, She can also say a sentence of six words or more without having trouble...She can "help" make her bed and is fully potty-trained with the exeption of bedtime. She can handle small task that are given to her and even knows how to color a circle...she doesn't do a proper one but she knows the motions of it. She also pretend plays with her dolls. She can hear a song once and know just about all the words...she can also watch a movie once or twice at most and repeat or say the words before they happen or tell me before a part of the movie takes place what is going to happen.
Is all of that normal?
But then there are these other "special" things that just aren't going away... shes amazing and I love her just want to help her out. :)
I'm gonna ask my friend about his video tape tonight and see if I can start to take some footage...i think that will help me out abit with her Doctor.
My oldest daughter, who is now nine, did these same things with the exception of pottry training. In fact, she also could count and say colors in German, plus knew opposites such as up and down, in and out, etc. She also was speaking in full sentences by the time she was 12 months old.
She was diagnosed with ADHD when she was 5 (I knew she had it by the age of 2), and recently they have recognized that while she does not actually have Asperger's she does have several of the indicators for it which may or may not be related to the ADHD. Anyway, like everyone else has said, get her to the doctor and present your concerns. If the doctor dismisses it as you being to concerned get a second opinion. If I had been more aggressive in seeking a dx for my daughter I could have spared our entire family a lot frustration in those 3 years between my suspicions and the dx. BTW, I did ask several docs and was always told I had a precocious, active child & I worried too much. Take my advice, never let anyone feed you that line of BULL!
Sc@tterBr@in_UK 09-24-05, 12:01 PM She sounds quite a lot like me, apart from the dolls and pretend play. I was diagnosed with AS/High Functioning Autism last year. I think I've turned out quite well though ;)
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