View Full Version : LD vs. AD/HD


East_Coast_guy
09-22-05, 11:51 PM
I know that I have both ADD and separate learning disabilities, but not exactly sure which is which. All of my life, I have had tremendous deficiencies in reading and memory skills. Years before I knew anything about AD/HD, I was able to get some assistance in learning to concentrate and focus--which substantially improved my general ability to think clearly and reading. The therapist who helped me said many years of anxiety was a major culprit preventing me from focusing.


Things were generally better, but it was clear that I needed to take more action. I learned natural ways to focus my mind, which comprised of most of my 30s. Then, I learned about ADD and made the conclusion that this was what I had.


Even after taking Ritalin, now, even though I now get tremendous focus, there are still some lingering issues with remembering details. Reading is much better, but still falls short of the ideal. There may be several reasons for this, but I am uncertain if this is from ADD or from other learning disabilities (probably some neurological disfunction). Perhaps, it is a combination of the 2. I don't know, but I know that I am intelligent in every other capacity--I know that I have relearned how to use thinking skills, (from my young adult years, when I was virtually a non-thinking person). I do not know why I can not uncover this last stone getting in the way of my complete functionality.


I have a great desire to finish my college degree. My success in this would feel much more reachable if I could only solve these remaining problems. I have come a long way to mentally be here; it has been disheartening that I have not been able to find a therapist to guide me in this area.


If I was able to increase my thinking abilities as I have, why am I not able to complete the process? What is getting in the way? Do I need more meds? Is there some new technique those so-called specialists are applying to help people concentrate better? Does anyone know if biofeedback type techniques work well? I am willing to do just about anything.

QueensU_girl
11-17-05, 12:24 PM
Memory problems are a feature of ADD.

-Emma
:)

Universal
12-03-05, 01:04 AM
thought, doesn't it make sense that LD and A.D.H.D are 2 seperate thing's? example a.d.d deals with concentration and focus, and LD deals with picking up new thing's, example: I started taking 40mg strattera for 3 weeks now, and i can concentrate and focus perfectly, though i can't suck/eat what is being tought to me in class, like my brain is not learning in anyway... Which reminds me i need to set an apointment with doctor...Cause this a.d.d meds is working great, But i'm not learning anything whatsoever. And i'm still researching if LD and A.D.H.D are 2 different thing's as i assume.

barbyma
12-04-05, 09:58 PM
You haven't really described what problems still remain. Is it memory? What type of memory are you having trouble with? Why do you think you can't go back to school & succeed?

Scattered
12-05-05, 07:18 PM
I'm a Reading Specialist and dyslexia unlike ADD isn't helped my medication. Memory problems certainly are a part of ADD frequently even after meds (just less so) but they are also a problem with Dyslexia. The information is stored but it gets stored mentally in the wrong file. Kind of like the train jumped the track, so finding things or remembering things is problematic. I doubt that biofeedback would help the memory issues. It can improve the brain wave functioning, but tends to fall off in effectiveness when it is discontinued. Hiring a professional ADHD coach might be helpful in teaching you strategies and structures to employ to aid your memory deficits. There are a number of good books out there also that have helpful suggestions: Hallowell and Ratey's Driven to Distraction, Answers to Distraction and Delivered from Distraction are a good place to start. Kelly and Ramundo's book You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy also has good suggestions for managing ADHD. On line you can look up the A.D.D. Warehouse www.addwarehouse.com (http://www.addwarehouse.com/) for a huge selection of books and tapes on ADD and disorders that frequently accompany them.You can also talk to your doctor about your medication, but while meds are very helpful, they don't make you non ADD.

Good luck and take care,
Scattered

Universal
12-07-05, 05:29 PM
but while meds are very helpful, they don't make you non ADD.
Scattered Just reading that really hurts me. I been hoping to be a.d.d-free. , Today in class i felt so afflicted and cried to myself silently,.. because i only wish onething so bad that **i can learn something** I have such a difficult time learning anything in any class-subject's. especially math , oh man! well as today is wednesday i been thinking of calling up my doctor to set up an apointment for friday. I'm still wondering what i will explain/talk to him about. Maybe that i need a higher dos of strattera cause 40mg isn't helping me much anymore to concentrate/focus. But i felt so depressed after i cried that i just felt like suciding...I wanna be smart and **** man if i can't learn anything then life is just pointless. isn't there med's for LearningDisabilities ? Cause i'm getting tired of living like this.

barbyma
12-07-05, 07:05 PM
isn't there med's for LearningDisabilities ? Cause i'm getting tired of living like this.
No, but if you can identify your specific problems there a behavioral solutions for the LDs. You need to get tested for specific LDs, then find out what accomodations you need and what strategies will work for you.

Taking care of the ADD (Strattera is working, right?) will help a LOT, but if you have an LD, you need to address that separately.

QueensU_girl
02-06-06, 03:26 AM
ADD definitely causes huge learning problems.

We need Working Memory to learn bigger and more complicated concepts.

Learning needs Memory, and Memory needs Learning.

ADD in itself really functions as an LD for many of us.

(I cannot comment on the effects of the addition of an LD, too.)

Emma

Scattered
02-06-06, 03:10 PM
Just reading that really hurts me. I been hoping to be a.d.d-free. , Today in class i felt so afflicted and cried to myself silently,.. because i only wish onething so bad that **i can learn something** I have such a difficult time learning anything in any class-subject's. especially math , oh man! well as today is wednesday i been thinking of calling up my doctor to set up an apointment for friday. I'm still wondering what i will explain/talk to him about. Maybe that i need a higher dos of strattera cause 40mg isn't helping me much anymore to concentrate/focus. But i felt so depressed after i cried that i just felt like suciding...I wanna be smart and **** man if i can't learn anything then life is just pointless. isn't there med's for LearningDisabilities ? Cause i'm getting tired of living like this.Wow, I'm so sorry -- I didn't mean to discourage you! While you will always be ADD you won't necessarily always have to struggle as hard as you are now. I recently found my report cards and achievement tests from early on in my education. I was at the bottom 10 percentile in math and the bottom 15 percentile in spelling. I still managed to graduate with good grades from two master's programs. Sometimes the further you go the better it gets. You get to choose subjects that you're better at and find interesting. The further I went through school the better I did. Strattera may not be enough or the right medication for you. It's only effective for 50+ percent of folks. Maybe your doctor would consider adding a stimulent to that (my counselor told me that works well for some people) or switching you to a Adderall or Concerta which have a 70%+ success rate.

There aren't meds for learning disabilities but there are definately treatments!!! My husband has severe dyslexia. It wasn't caught until he was in 9th grade and he wrote an algebra problem upside down and backwards without knowing he had done so. Before that the was told he was lazy, stupid, etc. He got specialized help and improved his reading ability. He has an RN now and three classes away from his BSRN. He has mostly A's a couple of B's. He did this while working full time. It's definately been more of a challenge for him then if he didn't have dyslexia (probably undiagnosed ADD too), but he's done it despite all the nay sayers! If you have dream, you can accomplish it. The right meds help, special training in dealing with your LD will help, and building on your strength as well as getting support are essential!

Edward Hallowell, MD (Harvard Professor and author of the best selling ADD book Driven to Distraction) has ADD and dyslexia. I encourage you to read his book -- it's very encouraging. He really emphasises identifying your strength, not just focusing on what you're not as good at. ADD does not make one dumb by any means -- we think differently.

I encourge you to talk to someone, maybe even a counselor, about your suicidal feelings and discouragement. You're life is a gift and there is much happiness ahead for you -- even if you can't see that at the moment.

Hang in there! As Hallowell say, "Things can always get better!"

Scattered