Hi all,

I'm new to these forums. 2 months ago, I was diagnosed with AD/HD.

This was a shock. But, it explains a lot!

The book, "The Da Vinci Method" by Garret Loporto, is interesting. Based upon the classifications in this book, I am a "dreamer" (a high theta brain wave person).


I look at things differently.
I come to different conclusions.
Sometimes I have epiphanies.
Other times, I gut feelings.
I know that I am not always correct. But, sometimes I am not wrong, just partially correct.

Its very hard for me to explain what I am thinking to most people. I've found that Google is an excellent communication tool. Yet, it's limited.

Recently, I have found it easier to communicate by looking up data from Google and then using the information as a written form to supplement what I am saying.

The web pages have everything laid out and are methodical. So, they can be reviewed by others and understood.

The problem is that there is never a single paper out there that can explain what I am saying. To get my point across I have to get a few sections from different papers talking about similar things. Then, I need to explain how they all tie in together.

Its frustrating. I hate it. It makes me dislike myself.

I get very unhappy when:


I can't explain my thoughts to others.
I say something wrong without realizing it.
I carry a conversation or thought on too long or in the wrong direction.
When people make fun of me to my face.
When people gossip and talk about me behind my back.
When people are nice to me just to get something.
When I am betrayed by "friends".
I realize I have very few long term relationships.
I'm taking prozac for my depression. Its a god-send.
I'm taking ritalin to help me focus. Its...

With lots of ritalin, I am like everyone else. This makes me happy. Unfortunately, it wears off and I crash back to dream mode with a vengeance.

My question is: How do I communicate with other people while in dream mode without having to resort to Google and ritalin?

I came to these forums seeking people like me. I am praying one of you has figured out a way to overcome this problem.

Please tell me how you do it.

Thank you.

I share your feelings on this.

I spend so much time trying to overcome my own limitations, and it gets tiring.


Medication helps, so does prayer, meditation or whatever it is you prefer to do spiritually....

Unfortuantely,. no amount of medication, or effort on your part is going to change other people. In some cases you are probably putting too much blame on yourself and need to relaize that there are some things in the world that are simply wrong and you can not change them. There are bad people in the world who will hurt you at every opportunity, just because you are different. The thing that you have going for you is that you are smarter than they are, and stronger spiritually, so you will survive.

I think that finding the inner grace to be patient with yourself and others is a useful thing.

Having ADD has cost me friends and caused me considerable hurt, and sometimes I just want to crawl into a hole and pull a big rock in after myself to close it off.... In any case, life is for living and it is sometiems good, sometimes bad. For us, we have a few extra hurdles to overcome but they can be overcome. Besides, what is the alternative ??

Me :D


Hi all,

I'm new to these forums. 2 months ago, I was diagnosed with AD/HD.

This was a shock. But, it explains a lot!

The book, "The Da Vinci Method" by Garret Loporto, is interesting. Based upon the classifications in this book, I am a "dreamer" (a high theta brain wave person).



I look at things differently.
I come to different conclusions.
Sometimes I have epiphanies.
Other times, I gut feelings.
I know that I am not always correct. But, sometimes I am not wrong, just partially correct.

Its very hard for me to explain what I am thinking to most people. I've found that Google is an excellent communication tool. Yet, it's limited.

Recently, I have found it easier to communicate by looking up data from Google and then using the information as a written form to supplement what I am saying.

The web pages have everything laid out and are methodical. So, they can be reviewed by others and understood.

The problem is that there is never a single paper out there that can explain what I am saying. To get my point across I have to get a few sections from different papers talking about similar things. Then, I need to explain how they all tie in together.

Its frustrating. I hate it. It makes me dislike myself.

I get very unhappy when:


I can't explain my thoughts to others.
I say something wrong without realizing it.
I carry a conversation or thought on too long or in the wrong direction.
When people make fun of me to my face.
When people gossip and talk about me behind my back.
When people are nice to me just to get something.
When I am betrayed by "friends".
I realize I have very few long term relationships.
I'm taking prozac for my depression. Its a god-send.
I'm taking ritalin to help me focus. Its...

With lots of ritalin, I am like everyone else. This makes me happy. Unfortunately, it wears off and I crash back to dream mode with a vengeance.

My question is: How do I communicate with other people while in dream mode without having to resort to Google and ritalin?

I came to these forums seeking people like me. I am praying one of you has figured out a way to overcome this problem.

Please tell me how you do it.

Thank you.

Honestly,I just keep to myself when my meds wear off.Im a little hard to handle when un medicated.Through the use of meds to stabalize radical emotions and feelings I have taught myself a few things.
Im excentric and I like it that way.The puter is a wonderful tool for me.I can talk freely and honestly and for some reason it all makes sense!!

I had to teach myself all over again.Get rid of nasty habits.I learned self control and self love.
In the end,I have experienced a new me.A confident,happy and controlled me.I dont have to be on meds to be funny or acceptable.The meds just gave me the push,the clarity to work on personal issues.

Im finr just the way I am,I like myself now.

Good luck

Thank you very much for responding Speedo. and Brandilyn

I had 2 discussions with my father last night about time and is place in the environment. He is very smart and well educated. But, he is a linear thinker. So, when I try to exlplain things to him, he just doesn't get it.

I work for a biotech company. There are 3 ways that you can contract a disease that is treatable with stem cell transplantations: genetic, environmental, and viral or bacterial. None of these classifications included one of the most important factors: time.

I wouldn't classifiy time with genetics or viral-bacterial causes. This left the environmental classification. Yet, time was not mentioned at all. This led me to the question, "Is time a part of the invironment?" This triggered my dreamyness (even though I was on 40mg of ritalin!) for a couple of hours.

So, I went to my father to discuss the environment and time with regards to medical technology.

To make a super long conversation involving the time/space continum, time travel, relativisic speeds, gravity, black holes, light, Einstein, and positive and negative time in physics equations, he eventually agreed that time is a part of the invironment (but only if you are including space in the factor). But, not when related to causes of diseases. Apparently, time is not a part of the catagory because it is used as an instrument to measure information.

This ignores timescapes which is like having 10 blindfolded people touching an elephant trying to tell you what kind of animal it is. Frustration!!!!!!!!!!

Its difficult to think holistically and try to explain how all the dots connect with each other. If there is no hard data that has been proven or not a theory that originates from an authority figure, he rejects it. This is why I had to bring in Einstein and stuff.

He absolutly didn't want to hear that time travel was possible. (Even though he is willing to admit that in physics there is negative time and that Stephen Hawkins thorizes that time is distorted in black holes.) He didn't want to hear that if you were going back in time, most people wouldn't know about it. Or, if you went back and then forward most people still wouldn't know (some people would which is why we have "de ja vu") because of perception. (How many people can tell the future on a regular basis? Well, its the same thing in reverse.) He also doesn't want to hear that distortions in time are localized events.

Its a real pain to explain these things when I don't know the words, who to quote, and when can't give the mathematical proofs. All I can do is go with the visualization I was given and try to explain stuff by looking it up on google.

Communicating with pets is easier and much more fulfilling.

:(

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to mentor me?

Yes,animals are wonderful companions and friends!I have 3 animals.A cat named pooh(8 years)Jasmine(choclate lab,8 years)KIMO,the guardian to the gates of my world!!!LOL!!!!

He is a 160lb. puppy.Well,not any more.He just turned one!He is my best friend and constant companion.He has givin me peace and partnership since I brought him home.
He is a Great Pyraneese,so of course,he is beautiful and way more intelligent than most dogs.
Sorry,tangent.

Oh I LOVE the way you think! Your intelligence and creativity are wonderfully unique. Welcome to the ADD Forums.

Yes, ADDers do often have trouble communicating. Like you, I have trouble formulating my thoughts and google w/ cut and paste has helped a lot.

My favorite tool? The edit button.
And if I'm feeling especially flakey? The green button that turns the computer off.

As far as what others think? eh. My Dad doesn't get me either. One day, it clicked. I didn't care. I don't hear the gossip about me. I'm too busy. I also hope I never do hear it because I'm sure it's not good and will hurt my feelings. Ignorance is bliss in that department.

You know who else's mind I like? Speedo's. He said things well.

Yes,animals are wonderful companions and friends!I have 3 animals.A cat named pooh(8 years)Jasmine(choclate lab,8 years)KIMO,the guardian to the gates of my world!!!LOL!!!!

He is a 160lb. puppy.Well,not any more.He just turned one!He is my best friend and constant companion.He has givin me peace and partnership since I brought him home.
He is a Great Pyraneese,so of course,he is beautiful and way more intelligent than most dogs.
Sorry,tangent.
I love mammals! I kind of have trouble relating to incects, reptiles, etc. My favorite animal friends are dogs. <3 all the pooches in the world!!!

I also like woodland animals. But, I have a concern about rabies and such. :(

When I was living in Washington DC, I used to have a "pet" squirrel.

He was different from all the other squirrels. He was black (the others were the usual grey), was missing his first toe on his right paw, and was special. You could just tell by watching how he interacted with the other squirrels.

Every day when I came home from work, he would come up to me and sit on my knee and eat peanuts. It took me about 4 days to get him to trust me. At first, I had to throw the peanuts far away. Then I would throw them closer and closer.

People don't give squirells credit for intelligence. But they are. Actually, all animals are smarter then we give them credit for.

One time I teased the squirrel. I was feeding him by hand and didn't give him the peanut. I held onto it and we did a little tug of war. I was just playing and didn't mean any harm. But he didn't know I was playing and got upset.

Chittered at me, flicked his tail a few times, and then urinated on my leg. Then he chittered at me a little and ran off. It was at this point that I realized that small and non-domestic does not mean dumb.

I looked up Great Pyrenees's on google. Beautiful dogs!

I'v only had one dog in my life. I got him for my 11th birthday. He was a Bernese Mountain Dog/Collie mix. I have never known a dog as smart as him. His name was Scottie (after the Star-Trek engineer) MacGregor (I have Scott and Irish heritage). As with all boys, he was my best friend. He weighed 82 pounds and lived over 16 years. :(

I will definately get another dog but first want to have a nice big home with a couple of acres for him to play in. :)

Talk to you later. ;)

Oh I LOVE the way you think! Your intelligence and creativity are wonderfully unique. Welcome to the ADD Forums.

Yes, ADDers do often have trouble communicating. Like you, I have trouble formulating my thoughts and google w/ cut and paste has helped a lot.

My favorite tool? The edit button.
And if I'm feeling especially flakey? The green button that turns the computer off.

As far as what others think? eh. My Dad doesn't get me either. One day, it clicked. I didn't care. I don't hear the gossip about me. I'm too busy. I also hope I never do hear it because I'm sure it's not good and will hurt my feelings. Ignorance is bliss in that department.

You know who else's mind I like? Speedo's. He said things well.
Thank you for the compliment! I came to these forums to make friends with people like myself. I am eagerly anticipating th future! I don't know anyone with AD/HD and don't know if I have ever known someone like us.

You get especially flakey too? Is that usual with us? For a long time, I thought I had epilepsy.

When I am on ritalin, I am not flakey at all. But when it wears off, my flakeyness comes back with a vengance. If the ritalin has worn off and I have a super flake session, I can barely talk. It's like I am stuck in "creative dream mode" except it lasts about 1/2 hr instead of a few seconds, I can percieve time, I can't get out of it, and I can't talk. Very wierd. Does this happen to you?

The gossip issue is a tough one to deal with. With my medication, I'm able to focus more on people and how they act. So, I'm slowly learning what is going on. Ah, well... ;)

I'll check out speedo's posts. :)

Talk to you later!

Aquilonious,Burmese mountain dogs are in a simular family as Pyraneese!Fantastic creatures!!!!
Loyal,obediant and smart!
I live in a house in the city and that was a huge worry at first.He is actually more of a inside dog!!He has enough room for a good run but thats about it.We are moving to 5 acres in a couple of months so I cant wait to see him in all of his glory!!!

You will make lots of friends here.Everyone for the most is wonderful and supportive!
Never feel alone.You are unique and specially talented mentally,just like the rest of us!LOL!!!!
We ADDers are super perceptive on others feelings and I think its a gift!

Folks, having trouble communicating isn't really a primary symtom of ADD, it's more of a symptom of expressive language disorder, asperger's syndrome, or PDD. Do a google search on these conditions. For the longest, I thought most of my problems were contributed to ADHD, and then I found out only some are. The reason why I can't stay focused, deny impulses, and sit still have more to do with my ADHD. There reason why I can't express myself, or understand/process language have more to do with my Mixed Receptive-Expressive Language Disorder.

Get tested. All the ADD medication in the world won't help you, if you're going around with other problems that are undiagnosed or untreated.

Thanks for the advice lilthingsaddup!

Okay, how does one test for Expressive Language Disorder? I don't say a lot of things because I don't know how it's going to come out. It all makes sense in my head, but when it's vocalized, not so much.

Craig

Craig, have you ever tested for Learning disabilities? expressive language disorder is part of learning disability. You usually have to be in school and have the school's psychologist test you. If you are not in school, it will probably cost you some big bucks. I have expressive language disorder, along with a few other problems that is part of my LD.

I have also realized that before my diagnosis, conversations moved too fast for me. I just couldn't keep up. When the conversations were confrontational I would just clam up. Doc said it was a defense mechanism.

Now that I know what was going on my whole life and I am taking medication, I am much more confident and able to successfully express my thoughts. I am also able to read social que's and facial expressions too.

Aquilonius:

Have you tried any other medication besides Ritalin? You say it takes a lot to get the desired effect and when it wears off you describe the "crash". Adderall is a stronger stimulant and is available in an extended release version. Since you were just diagnosed 2 months ago, you probably have not had the opportunity to try other medications. Discuss what you posted to your doctor. They should take this into consideration for your overall treatment.

Good luck and know that you are not alone. Keep us updated.

Aquilonius,
you do not have to prove things to people or have them acknowledge you are correct .Many a great man or woman has been at the forefront of ideas or inventions and only time proved them right -Alexander Gram Bell for instance

also being able to admit when one is wrong and apoligise makes a good friend willing to debate with you again,if you find you are wrong .

Being right is not all it's cracked up to be ,conversations are the give and take on ideas

I agree ,speedo ,that life is for living ,and for loving and spreading forgiveness and allowing others their limitations as we forgive ourselves for ours .

I personally would rather have friends than be right ,I can soar without them ,and I can have different groups of friends for different things .
Peace