I'll give you one guess....

http://tmz.aol.com/article1?id=20051219192909990001

Scientologists turned out in force on Saturday night (Dec. 17) for the opening of the new Psychiatry: Industry of Death museum.

The museum was created by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), a psychiatric watchdog group founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology.

The gala affair brought out such stars as Catherine Bell, Anne Archer, Jenna Elfman, Danny and Chris Masterson, Leah Remini, and Lisa Marie and Priscilla Presley.

While none of the stars are believed to have a medical degree, the colorful graphics and informative documentaries in the exhibits certainly seemed convincing enough for them to confidently label psychiatry a "fraud" and an "industry of death."

Actress Anne Archer delivers the startling news that at least 100,000 electroshocks are administered annually. The CCHR press release further informs that "psychiatrists kill up to 10,000 people" annually with their use of electroshock, which works out to one in ten.

Actor Danny Masterson explains that anyone who disagrees with them on the subject is "completely misinformed."

If your psychiatrist is not otherwise occupied murdering 10 percent of his electroshock patients, you still run the risk of having one of the 10 to 25 percent of psychiatrists that sexually assault their patients (unsubstantiated figures courtesy CCHR).

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My question is, "where was TC tonight?!????HHMMMMM!!!
I believe he is licking his wounds OR tied to chair with duct tape over his mouth.

Well I voted on their is psychology bogus pole!!!!! I voted "no" in case any one really has to ask.

Funny there wasn't a pole asking if the reader thought these people were nuts!!!!!!

The American Psychiatric Association was unable to provide a comment for this story.

It is considered unprofessional to make formal diagnosis of stupidity until it appears in the DSMV!!!!

If your psychiatrist is not otherwise occupied murdering 10 percent of his electroshock patients, you still run the risk of having one of the 10 to 25 percent of psychiatrists that sexually assault their patients (unsubstantiated figures courtesy CCHR).

Gee I have one of the boring psychiatrist who simply reviews my medications effectiveness and we often get into discussions about the latest research in the field of ADD!!!! Our last discussion was about the omega-3 studies.

No electric shocks or sexual relationships. I guess because neither me nor my psychiatrist is a scientologist!!!!!! ;)

I asked some one who is totally with out knowledge about ADD the closest thing he has come to a psychiatrist is the front door of mine when he has dropped me off for one of my appointments. I think he is afraid they will keep him!!!!

Any way I read this post to Gary who immediately recognized the actors names (better informed already I don't know who any of them are nor do I care) as "that group of nuts" who believes in that bogus religious junk. Any time they begin their religious garbage on TV it becomes time turn the channel"

The average American view of scientology and their subsequent opinion of psychology. :D

LOL I think Tom Cruise is too busy sonogramming his baby to fight psychology at the moment

Gee I have one of the boring psychiatrist who simply reviews my medications effectiveness and we often get into discussions about the latest research in the field of ADD!!!! Our last discussion was about the omega-3 studies.

No electric shocks or sexual relationships. I guess because neither me nor my psychiatrist is a scientologist!!!!!! ;)
I believed when I read this that the reference is to people working in psychiatric HOSPITALS. And yes, unfortunately, there is some sexual abuse happening in those places, although I don't know enough on the subject to tell you if their numbers are close to accurate or not.

After re-reading, I'm not completely sure if that's what was meant or not.

There's sexual abuse in nursing homes, convalescent hospitals, and dentist's offices, too, but you don't see Tom Cruise out there proporting that old age, tooth decay, and comas are mythical!

:rolleyes:

In general, when people cite alarming statistics sans source, year, or any explanation of what they mean, you can safely disregard the info.

Oh, since this is about Scientology (a religion as well as an industry), I will punt this thread over to spirituality without further adieu.

I'd personally like to jam eletrodes up some of their cult asses.

ECT has come a long way in the last 30 years or so.

These *******s have no limit to their abilities to make themselves look ridiculous.

Actors and actresses need to stick with what they do best and leave reality to the rest of us.

Actors and actresses need to stick with what they do best and leave reality to the rest of us.

Agreed 1,000 times!!!!!

I have repeated many times that my psychiatrist doesn't waste my time by attempting to be an actor during our appointed times I would prefer if actors would follow suit and quit wasting my time with their opinions on psychiatry!!!!!!

I wish there was a way we could collectively tell them to shut the $%#@ up!!!!

McT! I didn't realize ECT had come such a long way -- from above to below.



If there's anything unsettling to the stomach, it's watching actors on television talk about their personal lives.

<center>***</center> An actor's a guy who, if you ain't talking about him, he ain't listening.

That technique is reserved for the dreaded SFB (****4brains) Disorder.

These people wrote the book on that. :)

Ah the triump of emotions over substance. We need to remeber that these clowns are following the ramblings of a guy who was himself very ill mentaly.

The problem really isn't that actors are expressing their opinions. The problem is that there are so many people that are dumb enough to follow advice or believe something just because they see it on TV.

If people had any common sense they'd react to a celebrities opinion the same way they'd respond to the opinion of their mailman or the kid that mows their lawn.

In truth, it's not about "actors."

It's about brainwashed cult members carrying out their long dead schizophrenic founder's vendetta against the field of medicine that rejected his "theory."

>No electric shocks or sexual relationships.

No? I'd ask for my money back.. :)

>Actors and actresses need to stick with what they do best and leave reality to the rest of us.

If its up to me to defend reality, I'd say reality was in a baaad way..

>It's about brainwashed cult members carrying out their long dead schizophrenic founder's vendetta against the field of medicine that rejected his "theory."

As sciences go, psychiatry is fairly new and sometimes goes up blind alleys. Its to be expected. And, if I were a psychiatrist I'd be far more worried when a scientologist approved of me. Wasn't that the religion started as a bet?

People put down psychiatry -- and i agree that when the Shrink doesn't get the full story [so many people withhold important info!) , they can't make good treatment decisions.

Also, often bad friends or a bad family can keep a person from getting better.
Some family's "need" certain members to play certain "sick roles", and to have certain members who are "scapegoats".

As much as people knock mental health services, they sure as heck want them in the Emergency at 2am when their friend/family member/self is/are suicidal, hmm? Funny that...

Emma

Well I voted on their is psychology bogus pole!!!!! I voted "no" in case any one really has to ask.

Funny there wasn't a pole asking if the reader thought these people were nuts!!!!!!



It is considered unprofessional to make formal diagnosis of stupidity until it appears in the DSMV!!!!



Gee I have one of the boring psychiatrist who simply reviews my medications effectiveness and we often get into discussions about the latest research in the field of ADD!!!! Our last discussion was about the omega-3 studies.

No electric shocks or sexual relationships. I guess because neither me nor my psychiatrist is a scientologist!!!!!! ;)

I asked some one who is totally with out knowledge about ADD the closest thing he has come to a psychiatrist is the front door of mine when he has dropped me off for one of my appointments. I think he is afraid they will keep him!!!!

Any way I read this post to Gary who immediately recognized the actors names (better informed already I don't know who any of them are nor do I care) as "that group of nuts" who believes in that bogus religious junk. Any time they begin their religious garbage on TV it becomes time turn the channel"

The average American view of scientology and their subsequent opinion of psychology. :DI just saw this. I hadn't heard of anyone being sexually assaulted by their psychiatrists and I worked in a field where I would've heard statistics on such. Sounds like these scientologiists are watching too many episodes of "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit".

As far as Electroshock Therapy, isn't that only done rarely?

Good heavens! They way these celebs are talking, it's as if the minute you walk into a psychiatrists' office, the doc will strap you to the nearest table, attach elecrodes to your head and molest you all at the same time.

As far as I know, ECT (electro convulsive therapy) is now only used in treatment resistent depression, and only in the most severe cases.
I've read about a woman who had been admitted to the psychiatry 5 times because she was suicidal. Apparently no medication had the desired effect.

The procedure is now different, too. The "shocks" are done in general anesthesia, and the electrodes are placed in a way that only some parts of the brain are affected.

In about 70 to 80 percent of the patients, for whom everything else had been tried, the depression lifts after few treatments.
The main side effects are memory losses. (maybe that's why it works????)

Honestly, if I were constantly as depressed as I've been during my worst times and everything else had been tried, I'd want to have ECT, too.

Most people cannot imagine how painful a serious depression is. I've been in hospital for quite a few times (somatic reasons), and I'd change one day of deepest depression with all hospital days, if I could.

Some cancer patients even shorten their life with the dosage of pain control medication, because they suffer so much.

I'm very happy that scientology is closely supervised in Germany by our equivalent of the FBI.

Because of the necessity to get rid of old nazi ideas, our law against societies who might be in conflict with our constitution (--> human rights) were made very strict when they founded the constitution in '49.

So they have simply no voice in Germany, and I'm happy about that.