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sara4
01-25-06, 05:56 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it harms the child when they have to spend ALL of their recess doing work? He only gets one recess and today had to spend the entire recess time completing work that he couldn't keep up with in class. Requesting that the teachers send the work home isn't working because they don't know if he has grasped the concept or not if they don't see him doing it! (1st grade) He does not have an IEP - I am not sure if I need to request that or not. He is keeping up with the knowledge, just not the practice sheets. Any suggestions? Or do I just have to grin and bear it?

barbyma
01-25-06, 06:08 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it harms the child when they have to spend ALL of their recess doing work? He only gets one recess and today had to spend the entire recess time completing work that he couldn't keep up with in class. Requesting that the teachers send the work home isn't working because they don't know if he has grasped the concept or not if they don't see him doing it! (1st grade) He does not have an IEP - I am not sure if I need to request that or not. He is keeping up with the knowledge, just not the practice sheets. Any suggestions? Or do I just have to grin and bear it?
Certainly not!

While my son (2nd grade) was being evaluated, his teacher did a number of things including cutting his work so that he didn't miss out on play time ALL the time. At this age, play is still a VERY important part of learning.

My advice:

First learn your rights as a parent and his rights as a student. With documentation of AD/HD, he is legally entitled to accomodations. This can include shortened assigments. If the teacher says she can't evaluate him unless he does it, she's not paying enough attention (no pun intended). It doesn't take the whole assigment to know if they understand the concept.

You can suggest a list of accomodations that could included allowing your son to respond verbally whenever possible. There are just so many things the teacher could do to make it easier for him to learn. How motivating is it to miss out on all the fun?

If the teacher just doesn't seem to know what to do or how to do it (which is what it sounds like), then an IEP might be in order. The process allows everyone to get their ducks in a row and share ideas about what is best for your son.

No - he shouldn't be missing recess. Just my opinion, of course.... (but I'm right ;))

Uminchu
01-25-06, 06:27 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it harms the child when they have to spend ALL of their recess doing work? No, you're definitely not the only one. When my son was dx'd with ADHD, one of the first accomodations I got from school was to cut out make-up work during recess/lunch. First choice is just leave the work undone, second choice is to send it home. (I got them to realize they should expect that not all work will be finished -- and ask, is this really necessary for learning?)

One particularly egregious practice my son's school had was making kids redo sloppy work. Since my son's handwriting is pretty bad, and he has this talent for making paper wrinkled just by looking at it, he was spending a lot of time just redoing work he had already done.

When I first started "negotiating" with my son's school, they didn't even want to give me this. Schools can get this kind of groupthink mentality where they are sure that their way is right. But by now, I've got them pretty well pacified. :D;)

sara4
01-25-06, 08:23 PM
We are scheduled to meet with the teachers after school on Friday. 2 weeks ago we were given 4 choices for him to complete his work - during recess, during specials classes (pe, music, art), after school, or to set him by himself (which has already been tried). He does not get anymore completed when sitting by himself (in what the teachers call a "safe spot" meant for students in trouble).

I can see that I am going to have to stick to my guns. I requested at the beginning of the year that he NOT be kept in from recess to finish work, but I need to go and say it again and again and again. Thanks for your comments!

pembroke
01-25-06, 08:50 PM
this page may help you with the iep/504

http://www.yellowpagesforkids.com/help/mo.htm

good luck. and don't let them beat you down.

barbyma
01-26-06, 12:54 AM
I can see that I am going to have to stick to my guns. I requested at the beginning of the year that he NOT be kept in from recess to finish work, but I need to go and say it again and again and again.
Sara,

Has the school psychologist been involved? With an IEP, they'd have to be and that's the best person to decide what options you should have for this, not the teachers.

Good luck on Friday!!!

Nucking_Futs
01-26-06, 08:29 AM
My son is adHd I stress the H. Up until the second grade his teacher's kept him in during recess insisting that he wasn't completing his homework because they too weren't sure if he was missing concepts. But, then they would turn around and complain at meetings about his active disruptive behaviour during class time. Finally at the end of my rope I suggested that they allow him to bring his homework home for a week and go to recess...NEVER had any trouble with him being forced to miss a recess since then.

The hardest thing I have ever had to learn was how to advocate for my children forcefully without being insulting or judgemental. And I have no advice in that arena still unfortunatly.

sara4
01-28-06, 06:07 PM
Just wanted to give an update after our meeting with the teachers. This meeting was a lot better than any of the other ones that we have attended. The teachers are trying everything that they know - they are still going to keep him in from recess on average once a week to finish work orally with them. They complain that he has no concept of time - which I agreed that ADD kids have no concept of time. He has tested out of Reading Recovery (yeah!), BUT they have concerns that he is going to slip going through the regular reading class. He tested at a Level 14 when most 1st graders are at a Level 12. We practice reading every night so I think I can give him the one on one that he is missing from that class (I am a stay at home mom).

Overall the meeting was positive, but I still don't think the medicine is doing what it could/or should be doing. I need to go back and talk to the dr. again.....the teachers suggested that I move beyond the pediatrician to get more help for him. They are concerned about OCD(he had only been diagnosed as ADD). Oh, yeah, and he needs more socialization.

Still frustrated, but not so mad at the teachers anymore.....

SkyeBlue
01-28-06, 07:45 PM
he had already done[/i].

My son is in 1st grade, and his handwriting is TERRIBLE, compared with his sister who is in 2nd grade. Since they are so close in age, I have that comparison I can make between her abilities at that age and his now.

I have tried working with him on his homework, and he gets really frustrated at his inability to write well, to the point it makes him get angry and ball up his work and throw it.

Yesterday I requested that his school give him occupational therapy to help him with is poor writing skills and they agreed! :)

It may be something you might consider doing.

Uminchu
01-30-06, 01:29 AM
Yesterday I requested that his school give him occupational therapy to help him with is poor writing skills and they agreed! Thanks for sharing your experiences. Occupational therapy does sound like an effective way to improve this. Unfortunately, where I live (a rural area of Okinawa, Japan), I don't know how easy one would be to find... But I will look into it!

Scattered
01-30-06, 05:58 PM
I might check into the OT angle too -- I hadn't considered that. My daughter is dyslexic and ADHD and writing is so difficult for her -- she can do it fairly neatly for a very short bit if she's very interested. Otherwise it's really just like going to get teeth pulled. And it's definately the mechanics of it -- not the thought to paper part, because she can dictate like nobody's business.

Scattered

Old Adder
02-27-06, 10:27 AM
In the fifties when I went to school, there was no understanding of ADHD. I was kept in every lunch hour for one year to do math, which I still can't do. All I learned from that year was to hate school and to feel bad about myself. It is my belief and Drs. Hallowell and Amen, that recess and exercise time should never be missed. It pains me to think that teachers are still so ignorant to think this method of imprisonment can work. They should let him exercise hard and then work with him. I bet it would be much more productive. ADHD is not a disease-it's a special way of being. He should know that. It just makes me angry. Have you thought of home-schooling? Let him know how special he is and that things he can do that others can't.

anamari
03-01-06, 12:34 AM
my son and I did all his homework together one on one, at home, untill he was in his second semester 4th grade...1st grade was the hardest, it took him long to adjust to school, routine, homework....
i do have support from his teachers, tho....

inow i have a paper from his GP saying he has add and will benefit from this and that....could you bring something similar, saying he will benefit from recess? can you go to a specialist with him?-if that matters for his teachers.

Mom2Bonnie
03-10-06, 12:44 PM
I have an eight year old daughter who was diagnosed with ADHD after Christmas break in first grade. She has been on one form or other of medication since. She is now is third grade and I got her a 504 plan this year. She too gets kept in for recess to finish class work. I am going to modify my 504 so that this cannot keep happening. Children with ADHD should never be kept in from recess, they need that time more than other kids. Besides, it makes her very upset and she feels isolated when they do this to her. You should really sheck into a 504 or an IEP for your child.

sara4
03-10-06, 02:05 PM
I have gotten a little support from his teachers now - they have agreed to only keep him in 1 day per week (if necessary). I am looking into a 504 plan now. Thanks