View Full Version : Adderall and Panic Attack!


Sun2707
01-29-06, 02:44 PM
Did any of you experience Panic Attack has a side effect from Adderall? It happen to me one time. At one time I took 3x15mg thinking it was 3x5mg I got scare and tought it was too much and I had a Panic attack later on, around 8-9 hours after, when the med start to wear off. I mention it to my therapist and she said I should tell my psychiatrist but I'm scare to mention this to my psy, I don't want her to stop the adderall because one time I had a panic attack. I only had one major Panic attack and it was at that time, I got few panic after that but minor and it was cause mostly by stress and anxiety.

I never really had panic attacks before more anxiety attacks, I did experience minor panic attacks but rarely, I don't want my psy to think that the adderall had cause my panic. Well I was so scare when I mistake the 15mg thinking it was 5mg and took to much, I guess anyone will get a panic attack thinking they will die or OD! Adderall help me so much, I don't want my psy to cut the adderall or prescribe me something else. Do you think she will? If I only had one major panic attack and so far it never happen again, well not major, do you think she will stop the adderall? Did any of you had panic attack with the adderall? Do your doctor or psychiatrist know and if so do they still let you be on adderall? Hopefully some of you reply soon, I'm kinna tense by this!
Take care!
Sun

casinowife
01-29-06, 03:22 PM
If I were you I wouldn't tell her about it. Especially since you are hoping for an increase in dose in the near future. If it happened again though I would tell her.

Sun2707
01-29-06, 05:30 PM
Hi Casinowife,

I would not had told her but I told my therapist and she said I should tell her, she said she didn't want us to hide anything from the psychiatrist. I should tell my therapist that if it happen again then I should tell the psy, yeah I guess it what I will do, next time I saw my psy I won't tell her and when I saw my therapist I will just tell her I don't feel we should mention the panic attack to the psy but if I have another panic attack I will then tell the psychiatrist. Now the problem is that my therapist know and she was suppose to tell my psy about my panic attack but I told her I will mention it to my psychiatrist. I should never told my therapist but she was wondering how come I was feeling bad when I saw her and I said I had a panic attack and after I told her all the story. All that tense me, I don't want my therapist to be uspet and mad at me if I don't talk about the panic attack to my psy when I told her I will be the one who will mention the panic to her. I feel I should not mention the panic attack to my psy, do you feel my therapist should respect the fact that I don't want to? I do understand her concern but it happen only one time. All that tense me, hopefully my psy and my therapist won't make a big deal out of it!

SnappyCloud
01-29-06, 05:52 PM
Did any of you experience Panic Attack has a side effect from Adderall? It happen to me one time. At one time I took 3x15mg thinking it was 3x5mg I got scare and tought it was too much and I had a Panic attack later on, around 8-9 hours after, when the med start to wear off.Since you mistakenly took 3X more medicene than prescribed, your psychiatrist is not lilkely to stop Adderall. Your reaction was probably due to "rebound." When and if your psychiatrist raises your dosage, this might be a concern. I would tell him because it might be an indication that you need a smaller dosage in the afternoon to reduce rebound. For example, you might end up with an increased dosage in the AM and a smaller dosage later on in the day.

One way (for some people) to reduce rebound is to drink coffee. Some docs, however, say caffeine is dirty amphetamine, and would prefer that you take more Adderall instead.

I told my doc that one morning, two or three hours after I had taken my Adderall, I felt like pre-panic attack and thought about taking klonopin or some more Adderall...I took more Adderall and it took care of the anxious feeling. He smiled and told me that a non-ADD person would have felt very stimulated, rather than relaxed.:faint:

What I'm trying to say is that Adderall might not have given you a panic attack, rather, the lack of it.

Tell your doctor!

Sun2707
01-29-06, 09:15 PM
I took seroquel and it calm me down and stop the Panic Attack. I'm still unsure if I should mention the panic attack to my psychiatrist. I should say to my therapist that IF I had another Panic attack THEN I will tell the psy. Do you think it's fair of me to do that and ask my therapist not to tell my psy at lest only tell IF I have another panic attack? The panic seem to be cause mostly because of me being scare of dying or OD. I did had panic attacks before and it was not relate to any medication I took and I didn't took adderall at that time but I had minor panic attacks, what I had most was bad anxiety attacks and so far adderall never give me anxiety attack, except the time of the I thought I will die or OD and after that I had a panic attack. Is it right for me to ask my therapist not to tell my psy and if I do have another panic attack I will tell the psychiatrist? I know my therapist told me she don't want us to hide anything from the psy but this is not really hidding, it happen one time and I guess everyone can have a panic attack if they think they will die? I'm still very tense by this!!!

Andrew
01-29-06, 09:23 PM
Its important, when taking medication of any kind, to fully disclose to the medical professionals taking care of you, what's going on. Anxiety and panic attacks are not unheard of when starting some new meds. This med may not be for you, or an increase may help you. In either case, you should be making a decision about meds in consultation with your medical professionals, not on your own. Also, please note that none of the opinions stated in the ADD Forums should serve as any kind of medical advice. Only your doctors should advise you about your personal health situation.

Sun2707
01-30-06, 01:12 AM
Your right Andrew but I'm still afraid that my psy will stop the med, adderall help me a lot and the panic attack was cause by the fact I was so scare of dying, well I think it was, who whould not get a panic attack when they think they may die??? I didn't have any major panic attack after that. Did any one of you have panic attacks has adderall side effect? If so did you mention it to your doctor and what they said about it?

jaymarc
01-30-06, 01:37 PM
I agree that you need to keep the lines of communication open and tell them everything that happened. The problem with panic attacks is that once you have one panic attack it makes it easier and easier to have more. So the earlier you intervene, the better the therapeutic outcome. Your therapist should be able to deal with this situation correctly and I doubt that he will take the adderall away.

Sun2707
01-30-06, 04:27 PM
I guess I will tell my psychiatrist about the panic attack and hopefully she won't take me off adderall but I can't help being afraid she will, adderall help me a lot and going without it will be a pain. My therapist also told me she don't think the psy will take me off adderall because of the panic, it just that she feel the psy should know. I did had panic attacks before taking adderall but that was a long time ago and they were minor and so far I only had one panic attack and that was at the time I think I was dying. Do you think the psychiatrist will still keep me on adderall even if I had a panic attack? I don't think the panic attack was cause by adderall, it was because I thought I was dying or will OD, at first I got scare and I have an anxiety attack (I used to get that a lot before but only rarely now except that time) and a few hours later I got a panic attack. Hopefully she will keep me on adderall. Wish me luck I will need it!

Scattered
01-30-06, 04:43 PM
I hope it goes well with your psychiatrists -- it can be pretty nerve racking, I know. My stimulent medication (Concerta) reduced my panic attacks in frequency and intensity -- I still get the occasional heart racing, but not the full blown deal. Let us know how it goes.

Scattered

jaymarc
01-31-06, 01:34 PM
any CNS stimulants from amphetamines to caffeine are well known for their ability to induce anxiety or panic attacks. better safe than sorry. talk to your psyc, they know what they are doing.

Sun2707
02-01-06, 06:40 AM
Hi,
Thank you all for your advices and good words, I appreciate it.:) At first I didn't want to tell my psychiatrist about the panic attack, up until the last minute I told her. I don't know how it's happen I just told her and I'm glad I did. Even if the panic attack may not be relate to the adderall, it was mostly relate to being scare of dying or OD but still it's good that she know.

Also I had told my therapist that I will talk about the panic attack to my psy and I was tense because I told her she don't have to mention about the panic to the psy I will and in the end I may not even have told about it. I didn't want my therapist to think I had lie by saying I will tell about the panic but I didn't plan on telling her. I was just scare that she stop the adderall and worst even my other medications who make me feel normal but in the end everything went on fine and she even increase the dose of 5mg, I'm now on 20mg, so far it's okay but not that different from 15mg, well lets be hopefull and say it may help a little better.:)

The only concern now is mostly my weight, I'm under 100lbs but I was always around that, all my family are thin even if we eat a lot or at least eat normaly. I was suprise I even lost 2 pounds coz I had eat a lot during the month. I told her that I was always around 90-100lbs and almost all my family are like that but she still have some concern. Any advices anyone or have similar problems? Thanks again everyone for your help and concern!:)
Take care
Peace Sun

casinowife
02-01-06, 10:07 AM
Glad things worked out for you. Yes, my dr is watching my weight as well. I'm thin to begin with but he knows about my body image issues so he wants to keep an eye on it.

Sun2707
02-03-06, 04:04 PM
Hi Casinowife,
You too you have this problem, the weight issue. The more I ever weight was 110lbs and I didn't like it, is not that much but it make me had a little belly and I didn't like it. I don't know why I was so concern about this little issue but I was. I felt silly to worried about that, 110lbs is not big, far from it and I felt guilty to felt that way coz so many people will be glad to only weight that.

My worries were dumb, I try to loose vanity pounds, I even took diet pills but it didn't seem to work? I lost someone in my family and that's when I start to loose the weight and I still didn't gain it back. It seem I never can get my ideal weight, I'm either too much or too small. If only I could weight at lest 100lbs but I guess the best for me will be 105lbs, that way maybe my psychiatrist won't be concern anymore.

It's not that I starve myself, I eat the same as I did at the time I weight 110lbs, I don't understand why I don't gain any weight and even lost 2 pounds? Now I'm at 94lbs and I do eat so I don't understand why I can't gain any weight??? I told my psy I eat a little at the time but very often. She said it not good, I should eat 3 big meals a day.

Casinowife do you do has I did eat often but just a little or you strave yourself? You mention you have a body image issue, is it like mine, the belly issue?lol:) I know my concern is silly and if I need to weight 110lbs now I will. If I need to gain weight to stay on adderall I will try. I like better having more motivation and being able to function then having no belly. That's how bad my fatigue and ADD is, it's worst then my body image issue I guess. Hopefully soon I will gain at lest my 2 pounds back. Have a nice day and take care!

casinowife
02-06-06, 12:57 AM
Sun2707,

I was diagosed with Body Dysmorphic Disorder a few years a go. In case you don't know what that is it's a preoccupation with perceived defects in one's appearance. My weight is only one part of it. I have issue's with my nose, breasts, skin, and my knee's. I know that according to weight and height charts that I'm underweight but sometimes I catch a glimpse in the mirror or my reflection and I swear that my legs look like tree stumps they are so big. I've had my breasts done twice in less than a year and now I think I will eventually have them done again to make them smaller. I have been seriously considering a nose job in the next few months. Everyone says there is nothing wrong it but it justs disgusts me. If anyone knew how much time I spend obsessing about my nose they would think I was crazy. The sick part is I know from experience that surgery will not fix the real problem, my perception. To answer your other question, I never starve myself (on purpose anyway). I think I lost the ability to recognise the feeling of being hungry, if that make sense. I know I need to eat when I start to feel sick from my blood sugar dropping low and I feel shakey and feeling like I could pass out.
I've recently made huge steps forward in becoming comfortable with my weight. I started weight training over a year a go and my trainer has taught me a lot about body fat, muscle, food, and how my body works period. At first it didn't really sink in but as time passed I could begin to see the results of my weight training so I began to trust her more and really listen and follow her advice. Between my trainer and my therapists help I'm actually content being 5'8 and 123 lbs. I do worry that my dr will take me off Adderall though if I lost too much though. SO far it's only been a 3-4 lb
difference. I told him I don't want to see the number any more when he weighs me because I don't want to go back to obsessing about a number. I want to go by how I feel instead.
I don't think your worries are dumb at all. Trust me, I know what it feels like to be thin but still feel fat. That's really hard for people to understand sometimes. So if you want to gain a few pounds maybe you should consider weight lifting.....muscle weighs more than fat!

Sun2707
02-06-06, 02:45 PM
Hi Casinowife,
I heard about BDD and red about it. I think I do had few symptoms of it but not that much any more. I know how painful it is and I feel so free now not having BDD so much. Some psychiatrist are specialise in BDD maybe it will be helpful for you if you saw one. You already know that the imperfection are in your head, you don't need the surgery. Hopefully soon you will come at peace with it and won't need the surgery.

I still eat a lot so I will be suprise if I lost any weigt, I hope I even gain some. I want to ask my psy the next time I saw her to add adderall IR 10 mg to my daily dose of XR 20 mg, hopefully she will. Casinowife do you take adderall and how many mg a day you take?
Take care!
Sun

casinowife
02-07-06, 02:36 AM
Sun2707, I've been working with a therapist for a few years now. He's been a huge help and I can't imagine what my life would be like if it weren't for his support and direction. Yes, I am on 20mg of Adderall XR twice a day. I no longer say such stupid and off the wall air headed comments as much anymore and I don't struggle as much with getting what I'm trying to say to come out and make sense. At my last appt a few days ago we were discussing my memory and how it's still not as good as I would like and he said he may increase my dose AGAIN. I was surprised but he also gave me a few tips to help with my memory and I'm trying to work those instead of increasing my dose.

Sun2707
02-07-06, 05:51 AM
I only take 20 mg of adderall XR a day, it do help but not for long and I still have few side effect, like being dizzy, getting depress and sometime I had migraine. The adderall help for my low energy, fatigue and lack of motivation. I recently saw my therapist and she said she don't see why I could not have an increase dose next time I saw my psy, even going up to 30 mg. I was suprise that my therapist say that but I guess she saw that she can trust me now with my med and an increase dose can be really helpful. Now I don't know if my psy will agree? It took me more then 2 months to only have an increase dose of 5 mg, I'm not sure she will think 30 mg is a good idea but if my therapist think it's fine maybe my psy would think it's a good idea too?

It's good that you have a therapist who help you for your BDD. I don't have BDD symptoms so much anymore but when I get anxious it can come back but never as bad as before. How your daily dose of Adderall XR 20 mg twice a day is helpful to you? Do it help all your ADD or ADHD symptoms and how long the effect of adderall stay? After your first dose of adderall how long you have to wait for it to kick in? It used to take 1 hour or 1 1/2 hour to kick in but now it seem to take more then 3 hours, is it normal that adderall take so long to kick in?

I red that Attend can be really helpful for ADD. I don't know why I try another natural medication but I red so many posts from peoples who mention Attend is as good if not better then any ADD medications or at lest can be a good combination to ADD meds. I order it and hopefully it will help. If I cannot get off adderall, at lest be on the lowest dose as possible with the help of Attend! I can't believe it won't work at lest a little? How can so many peoples lies by saying Attend work? I don't believe the web site will lie and write so many posts about unreal peoples? Hopefully Attend may be a good combination with adderall? Good luck with your BDD and ADD/ADHD, I know how painful it can be!
Take care!
Sun

casinowife
02-07-06, 08:40 PM
I am really happy with my dose right now. It takes about 30 minutes to kick in. I'm surprised it takes so long for it to work for you. Do you notice much difference with a 5mg increase? If I were you I would just keep telling her that you still aren't functioning at the level you want to be. Maybe you need a morning and afternoon dose. I was only taking 20mg once I day and while I could notice a lot of improvement I still struggled majorly in certain areas, mostly memory. So when he suggested I take it twice a day I did and what a huge difference. I have never heard of Attend but I would be careful about ordering anything like that over the internet. Is it approved by the FDA? Did you ask your dr what he thinks about adding Attend to it? Maybe then he will see how serious you are about needing an increase in dose. My only complaint about being on 40mg is I don't sleep very much. I never slept very much before Adderall but this didn't help. I don't want to take sleeping pills either but I shouldn't complain because it's worth the lack of sleep.

Sun2707
02-07-06, 10:43 PM
Hi Casinowife,
I talked often with my therapist about searching to find a natural medication to take instead of my ADD med or at lest adding the natural med with my daily dose of adderall. She think it's a good idea and know I'm trying to find better way then ADD medications to help my ADD! I'm not sure if she mention this to my psy? I know she talked to her about the fact that I wish to have an increase dose of 5 mg and adding adderall IR 5 or 10 mg to my daily dose of XR or taking the IR as need but my psy said for now she will only increase my dose of 5 mg. I should say to my therapist to mention to my psy that I'm trying a new Natural medication for my ADD and been searching for a long time to find other way then ADD meds or at lest I try to find something that will be helpful and make my daily dose of adderall work better and like you mention maybe then she would see how serious I am about needing an increase dose!

At first 20 mg seem to help, it last maybe a little longer then 15 mg but not much more. It seem I built up a tolerance very fast. Do you have a problem with tolerance also? I'm not sure if my psy would increase my dose again but my therapist did said that she don't see why I cannot have a increase dose? She even said maybe she can put me on 30 mg a day and adding adderall IR. So maybe my psy will increase my dose and add IR to my daily dose of XR, well I hope at lest she will add IR to take as need, that will be a major help.

I been on adderall XR since the end of November, is it normal to built a tolerance so fast? I red 30 mg is what an adult mostly need but some need more and very few lest. When were you first put on adderall XR and at what mg did you start? I start at 5 mg and I didn't see any improvement for my add, 10 mg also was not that helpful but 15 mg was okay but not great, 20 mg is maybe better then 15 but only a little. That's why I'm trying to find something else then ADD meds because I think I built a tolerance way to fast and it scare me. So far I'm able to deal with it but in the long run adderall won't work anymore and I don't want to need more then the normal dose.

I red that some peoples even took 150mg of adderall XR and even more!!! That's scary and dangerous, can they dies with that many mg??? If I will need that much I will stop adderall and try to find another solution or at lest stop the ADD med for a while and take it again when my tolerance won't be so high and I will not need so much. With how many mg of adderall can someone OD and die? I'm glad I don't need that many mg but reading about that scare me, I don't want to become like them and need so much and not being able to controle or stop it!

I don't think Attend is FDA approved but I red so many posts from peoples who mention Attent was very helpful for them or they kids and for some it was even better then ADD meds! I email a woman who left her email address on the forums for people who wish to ask her more questions and information about Attend. I recently email her and she reply back and told me how Attend help her son, I think he don't take ADD medication anymore or at lest less then before. She said Attent was even better for her son then his ADD meds but it can take time to feel the full effect of it. I believe she said she start to see an improvement only after a few days but for some people it can take a month. She seem very honest and sincere and was happy to share her success story with Attend and be of some help to someone who deal with ADD. I guess I had to wait at lest a couple of days for Attend to arrive and after wait a week or two or maybe a month to see if Attend help. If it work I don't mind the waiting but with my luck it will be another alternative medications who won't work for me!:( I can't think like that I need to stay positive and maybe Attend will be the solution for me and if it is I will let you know! Wish me luck, I will need it!:)
Take care
Peace Sun