Sun2707
01-29-06, 05:54 PM
I saw a natural medication that can help to focus, have more energy, less fatigue and help to concentrate, it's call Clarocet and it's $27,50 a bottle. Did any of you hear about this or take it, do it help? I'm asking coz I don't want to buy something that don't work again. Thanks for your help!
barbyma
01-29-06, 06:06 PM
There is no "alternative" or "natural" remedy for AD/HD. There is absolutely no evidence to support the effectiveness of any treatment except stimulant medications and, more recently, SSRIs like Strattera.
Sun2707
01-29-06, 09:16 PM
Thanks for the info Barbyma. I knew it was too good to be true!!!
mctavish23
01-29-06, 11:03 PM
Agrees totally.
If there were, we'd all be taking them.
Scattered
01-30-06, 03:27 PM
There is no "alternative" or "natural" remedy for AD/HD. There is absolutely no evidence to support the effectiveness of any treatment except stimulant medications and, more recently, SSRIs like Strattera.
Supplements are not as well researched because they can't be patented in the same way and it's not required before they can be marketed. For other conditions that frequently accompany ADHD for example depression -- there are studies that indicate that St John's Wort and 5-HTP may be only slightly less effective and they both generally have fewer side effects. Don't get me wrong -- I think well researched medication with a long track record is generally the best way to go -- I take Concerta every day. But when I added certain supplements to the Concerta I got better results than on the Concerta alone.
I just don't believe we should slam the door on everything else quite yet, so I agree partially -- as John Ratey states in Shadow Syndromes -- we have to keep our eyes open for the unexpected area help comes from -- he cites an example of a patient in a lock down ward for whom no medication had been helpful, but who improved significantly in her violence and general behavior on a particular cough medicine. Obvious cough medicine doesn't work for most seriously ill mental patients, but for this one it did. Claritin with pseudoephedrine does more for my ADD focus and executive skills than any prescription medication I've taken, but the side effects aren't something I want on a daily basis. Leaving off sugar doesn't improve most ADDer's symptoms in large studies, but for 5% or so of ADD kids it makes a difference. So you obviously can't recommend it as a major tested treatment, but if you're one of those 5% -- sure can help. I stopped eating all sugar in 8th grade and my grades sky rocketed. (I am not exagerating here -- my achievement test in 8th grade showed my math improving by 70 percentile and my spelling by 50 percentile over my previous test in 5th grade). Now I'm not down playing the part hormones probably played as well, but diet "in my case" made a difference.
I don't know anything about Clarocet good or bad and $27 is a good piece of change. I just don't think we should totally rule out all other possibly helpful supplements, herbs, foods, etc., especially since 20 - 30 percent don't respond well to current medication and another 30% of the responders still wrestle with a fair amount of ADD symptoms. But we should be clear about what is best researched and has the highest probability of working which are meds.
Scattered
Bean Delphiki
01-30-06, 03:40 PM
Barb, I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Strat isn't an SSRI?
barbyma
01-30-06, 07:19 PM
Barb, I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Strat isn't an SSRI?
You're correct. It's a Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor (SNRI, I guess). Sorry for the incorrect info.
barbyma
01-30-06, 07:25 PM
Scattered,
I'm not talking about slamming the door on anything, but putting money into an industry that scams those in need of treatment is not my idea of progressive medicine and these companies REALLY P*** me off!
And I disagree about the research. Many have been studied extensively, however, because this industry is unregulated, little may be concluded about the safety or efficacy of ANY particular brand (or even batch!).
There are no standards for the manufacture of these things and they can make whatever claims they like, as long as they slap a disclaimer on it that says the statement hasn't been evaluated by the FDA.