Now I may bump into a lot of resistance when saying this but I'll say it nevertheless. I do not believe in psychosis, borderline, narcissism etc. for people with ADD. We have an open mind and the above imply the need for focus. Read the symptoms for borderline for example; black an white thinking!?!? We think many thoughts! I'd rather call it rainbow thinking! In my opinion ADD goes undiagnosed so often that psychs just label us with things. Next to that I'd like to add that there are overlaps with symptoms of other psychic situations. So I am not surprised we get an extra diagnosis. But... Still... I do not think it is in our nature...

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I would say that it is important not to group people but to notice them as individuals. I have read many times that ADDers are a diverse group and that is one of the reasons for the difficulty of getting a definitive diagnosis. I have also read that, because of their disorder, ADDers may have to deal with more issues than non ADDers and this may lead to other disorders. For instance, imagine growing up in family with ADD parents who are in denial of or don't realize their disorder. Do you think that an either ADD or non ADD child would be able to deal with the situation so that they grow up unaffected?
It is my understanding that both BPD and narcissism are thought to be developmental traits. If a person has difficulties in childhood whether it is ADD, learning disorders, alcoholic or abusive parents, etc. it would seem reasonable that they would be more likely to have developmental issues than one who didn't.

I would say that it is important not to group people but to notice them as individuals. I have read many times that ADDers are a diverse group and that is one of the reasons for the difficulty of getting a definitive diagnosis. I have also read that, because of their disorder, ADDers may have to deal with more issues than non ADDers and this may lead to other disorders. For instance, imagine growing up in family with ADD parents who are in denial of or don't realize their disorder. Do you think that an either ADD or non ADD child would be able to deal with the situation so that they grow up unaffected?
It is my understanding that both BPD and narcissism are thought to be developmental traits. If a person has difficulties in childhood whether it is ADD, learning disorders, alcoholic or abusive parents, etc. it would seem reasonable that they would be more likely to have developmental issues than one who didn't.Just after writing this thread, and on my way to the convenience store, I was thinking about my father. Growing up for me was EXTREMELY difficult. I grew up in a very chaotic family situation with a father who literally waged war multiple times a day, every day of every year that I have known him. Discussions started because on the smallest subjects (too much sugar in coffee for example) and, not unfamiliar to most of you, ended late at night with something completely else (something that happened 20 years ago for example). Psychological mind games were the rule rather than the exception. But I won’t bother you with more details.
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My father died on us last August and I hadn't spoken with him for about 4 years. In retrospective I can tell you that a diagnosis (my father never knew he had ADD (to my regret)) caused a lot of understanding and compassion for my father on my behalf; living a life in failure, knowing that you are a sane thinking person, and yet you and the world do not seem to agree I can imagine my father became the bitter and frustrated person he was at the end of his life. He literally blamed everyone and everything around him except himself. I realise now that he wasn't wrong but... the world wasn't wrong either. He simply thought different; he thought faster like we do. A situation of mutual understanding lacked all of his life. Living like this for almost 70 years makes a person rather ‘eccentric’ wouldn’t you say? My mother, sister and brother agree on the fact that he would never have excepted ADD. Why? Because he had been fighting to be understood his whole life. He knew that the way he thought was natural for him. So why accept a deficit!?!? He simply needed to brake down the many believe structures had built around himself during life. BUT HE HAD NONE OF THE ABOVE NAMED DISORDERS!!! He just thought differently and because of this nobody could follow his thoughts and ideas. Think how you would have become if you would not have had a diagnosis. I have said it many times over, and I will keep saying it many times over, but society is not built for ADDers. Because +/- 90% of the population needs rules and methodical thinking to survive and that is not how ADDers are wired. <O:p

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