View Full Version : In Canada---where to go?


CanGirl
03-18-06, 05:31 PM
Where does an adult like me, who is pretty darned sure she has ADD, go for testing in Canada, specifically in Ontario? Do I have to visit a psychiatrist? Does is cost me to do it?

See, my doctor will not accept the idea that I might have ADD, although my son was diagnosed with it several years ago (it tends to run in families, does it not?). EVEN though I gave her a list of symptoms and I checked off almost every one! Oh, she says, it's probably depression; after all, you have 2 young kids, you started a business, you have spouse issues......WHY is it so hard for her to just let me get tested?????

Her opinion: see a psychiatrist, who can talk to me about my 'depression' issues....oh, and supposedly could look into this ADD silliness and get it outta my head! I called the psych hospital, thinking at first that maybe they have an ADD specialist or could refer me.....sure they can test me....for $1500.00! What, and what exactly is OHIP for? It covered my son seeing a specialist out of town to get diagnosed?! What, do adults not have ADD, so they aren't covered? Ahhhhh, I could scream!!!!!

I am not depressed all the time! I generally feeled 'bored' to 'happy' in terms of rating it at all, but certainly not sitting around the house feeling sorry for myself, definitely not for weeks on end. Maybe a little frustrated, sure, but I just feel like I can't keep at anything before losing steam or interest or whatever you want to call it. And some days, I just feel like I'm in a haze, like I can't concentrate.....but for %&(#$'s sake, not sad or depressed! :mad:

So back to my original question for you Canucks out there: can an adult in Ontario get tested by a regular MD or do they have to see a specialist? And is it costly, or is my doctor just trying to brush me off? I am so fed up, I think I'm going to ask for a second opinion.......

Thanx!

cg

madd
03-18-06, 07:11 PM
I bet Queensugirl will have an answer for you.

Slowpoke
03-26-06, 04:51 AM
Hi!

Your situation sounds like mine...
My GP at the time was worried that I was getting addicted to ritalin b/c i went up in dose really fast in just a few months. I got sent to this horribly biased psychiatrist to try and rule out ADHD... ahhaha. what a joke.

ANYWAY, I was originally diagnosed with ADHD by a dr who has an interest in it.
But I havn't been totally satisfied with what was going on, it wasn't the right time for me to be able to follow through succesfully, I don't think...
but now, I'm more settled in a way, and as luck would have it, found out there is an ADHD CLINIC in the area.

They are far and few between (is that how the phrase goes?)

I live in BC, and the clinic is in Vancouver.

If your current Dr doesn't "believe" that you have it, then go find one that does. Switch. get a second opinion.

or see if you can find a clinic or specialist.

If you're not sure where, I think the best place to start would be to contact the local CHADD or ADHD support group. I'm talking about getting a more detailed, comprehensive diagnosis. It is probably that you DO have ADHD AND OTHER CONDITIONS. ADHD often has co-existing disorders (LD, depression, OCD etc.) but if you go to a clinic that specializes with the treatment of ADHD, they are most likely going to be able to sort through all the "bonus" diagnoses.

If you're the type who gets overwhelmed with organizing a plan of attack, let me know.
I'm that type too (LOL) but since I've been through it, I know a little bit about it.
I'm also a HUUUUUGE fan of advocating one's ***** off for getting treated for a NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER (yes, that's right folks, that's the status. It was actually described as such in one of my college classes I'm taking, I was SO PLEASED when it was presented. That will help people take it much more seriously. Low dopamine levels in the brain.)

ANYWAY, let me know if you would like some help with starting things up. I think a lot of us are really good at helping others do things step by step, but find it difficult with doing the same thing when it comes to our own situations.

Isn't that ironic???

jonnyg1
03-27-06, 08:35 AM
First off I just want to say that I just signed up to this forum and am so glad that it exists.

After reading about it I was positive that I have ADD and went to my doctor and pretty much told him so. He set me up with a person from a counselling service to get me assessed (free of charge, I live in Ontario as well) and i have it with flying colors. The funniest part is that the "test" that I had to fill out was about 1/10 the size of one that I already filled out online. However any counselling or programs or anything like that are not covered or so I'm told. So now its basically up to me to see if the medication I'm going to be prescribed in a few days (fingers crossed hope it works) is doing the trick and to watch for any negative affects on me and the positive affects as well.

The absolute worst part about taking this step in my life is that the ADD is the main thing holding me back. See, my biggest ADD symptom is Inattentive hands down, my brain is very hyper but my body isn't that much. I live my life in my head and manage to think wayyyy faster than i can possibly act on. I want to find out if I can get any coverage to help with my medication, also to find out if certain medications help with certain types of ADD, what side affects to look out for and so on and so on. But it is so hard to go through all these sites and forums when I have little to no attention span. I guess for me trying to figure out how to treat myself for it is somewhat overwhelming.

The thought of posting my life story regarding ADD and how it has affected me crossed my mind. But to just say my peice then sit back and let other people come up with the answers would be selfish and unfair to others who go out and search for the answers themselves.

Anyway I hope you can get assessed and as I said above it was free for me to do so, even though the assessment was kind of a joke.

CanGirl
03-27-06, 09:55 AM
slowpoke, sadly, there ARE no clinics in my area. I live in a small town. Doctor shortages as they are, it would be forever before I could get a new doctor, if ever. They only accept patients if your doc dies or moves away. On the other hand, I could be referred for a second opinion, but that would only be for diagnosis.....but how to get your doctor to believe you should get a second opinion?

I certainly don't have the time to start my own support group, and honestly, I don't think I have the interest in it in general to do so. I have so much on my plate already, getting myself in order enough to do something like that is beyond my capabilites.

jonny, why not post your story? It might be interesting to others here. I certainly can relate to many of the stories I've already read, it makes me feel like I'm less 'different' than I thought. How can one get answers to their problems, after all, if you don't ask for answers. It's pretty hard to get advice without details. Please, feel free to tell your story, someone will listen!

Just curious, just what tests exactly where you given? See, from what I am told in my town (very limited advice), was that I could pay a psychiatrist big bucks to tell me I don't have it......and yet for my son to be diagnosed, all we did was take him to an ADD specialist for kids. We filled out a lengthy form, as did his teachers, and then the doc performed some tests. Voila, the diagnosis. I just don't understand why I must visit a psych doctor to get the same diagnosis. Don't they have a questionnaire for me too? Why the big run-around when it comes to adults, is beyond me. Maybe they just think everyone outgrows it? GGGGRRRRRrrrrrr...........!!!!!

cg

CdnJulie
05-15-06, 08:10 AM
My doctor told me I am coping so far and made adjustments big time all my life, that she doesn't recommend meds. If she only understood me....

AndreaM
05-18-06, 01:22 PM
My doctor told me that an evaluation for my son would cost at least $1000! How do I find out where to go for a free evaluation for him? I'd like to know what I'm dealing with before making any assumtions but we can't afford the money for the tests. My doctor recommended not having the evaluation done unless we were wanting a prescription. Well, I think I need to know first if he even has it before making ANY desisions about medicating or otherwise.

QueensU_girl
05-18-06, 04:47 PM
An estimate of $1500 for Assessment is way way too much.

My own testing was $1200 (paid by an Ontario Government Grant).

I'd really suggest Dr. Bilkey in Barrie (n. of Toronto) for Testing. His is $800, i think. (He is partly covered by OHIP b/c he is a Psychiatrist, who is trained in the Psycho-Educational Testing.)

QueensU_girl
05-18-06, 04:51 PM
re: #6
Yay.

I didn't take my meds one day last month -- b/c i was getting an ADHD MRI at Sick Kids.

Know what happened? I left my PURSE in the Changeroom at the H&M [clothing] store at the Eaton Centre.

OMG.

People do not appreciate the existence/danger/social problems that are caused by ADHD's never-mentioned "short-term memory" problems.

I wonder how many ADHDers have burned down their houses due to 'leaving the kettle on the stove', etc.

Short term memory is so totally needed for LEARNING (LT memory!), too.

I know it's kept me from being more Academically Successful.

:S

snuffleupagus
06-19-06, 02:59 AM
Yeah, I was one of the kids who always got the 'You aren't living up to your potential' notes from middle school to high school. But it wasn't until college that I really suffered for it. In high school not paying attention was no big deal, if you had the notes, the questions were just memorizing the notes anyways. Not so in university, and that sunk me. You need to get explanations to get the questions. Wasn't until long long long math seminars though that I realized I had issues because I had no memory of the lecturer's words.
I live in Canada as well, and all I had to do was go to a psych after a referral and it was covered. All he did was take my health card and that was that. I don't get why you guys would have to pay. Psychiatrists are covered.
Is your ADD testing some kind of MRI thing? And if so, how can I get the same thing done?

QueensU_girl
06-21-06, 11:09 AM
Not all ADHD is obvious.
Many times, "Inattentives" or "Combineds" were missed as children. (Being Daydreamy/Quiet and/or doing well in early schoolyears an cause ADHD to be missed. We aren't all "Hyper" and getting the teacher's attention. ADHD only becomes apparent later in life (when we start to really rely on what is called EXECUTIVE FUNCTION -- and decline in performance in various areas (school; work; social; acheivement) is dismissed as being caused by other things. For example, it's "teen hormones", or "anxiety", or "depression", or such.

Mentions of "Potential" or "Underachievement" is totally CLASSIC in report card comments...

I was always getting into trouble for "Daydreaming". <G>

It is important to have Testing (Psychoeducational Psychologist), b/c Psychiatrists can't usually do it (altho' i've heard of a few that have ADHD Testing Training).

ADDCoach4u
07-05-06, 03:43 AM
A doctor, psychologist or psychiatrist IF properly trained in ADHD should be able to diagnose you. Unfortunately many have not been trained to do so and ADDers don't bother complaining enough to health boards and to Canadian politicians to change that. If enough of them did that before, you and others wouldn't have this common problem.

I've got a list of 35 Cdn ADD support groups divided by province on my website http://www.addcoach4u.com/canadianadhdsupportgroups.html you might want to look at the Ontario ones and try going to or talking to the closest ones near you to get personal recommendations or at least some possible names or people known to diagnose and treat.

good luck

Pete

Imnapl
07-05-06, 02:57 PM
Pete, when I click on
List of People known to Diagnose/Treat ADD in the Vancouver Area (http://www.addcoach4u.com/Vancouver/vancouverbcareadiagnosis.html)
I keep going to a page that asks for my email address. Am I doing something wrong?

ADDCoach4u
07-05-06, 03:42 PM
Hi Imnapl,

I've been told that Doctor's aren't supposed to advertise, so I don't list them on my website, but instead I email them out to people.

"Please email me for the list.

click here to request the list "

so click there, send me an email and I'll email you the list.