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chameleon
03-24-06, 04:01 AM
I found this article online here (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1738881&page=1)

I think it's related to ADD because it deals with memory function. They discovered a woman that has the most amazing lifetime memory. I wonder if she's in some ways the opposite of ADD? They speak about how her brain might be wired differently than normal peoples...

Here's the full story (since I hate following links too :p )




Woman With Perfect Memory Baffles Scientists




March 20, 2006 -- James McGaugh is one of the world's leading experts on how the human memory system works. But these days, he admits he's stumped.

McGaugh's journey through an intellectual purgatory began six years ago when a woman now known only as AJ wrote him a letter detailing her astonishing ability to remember with remarkable clarity even trivial events that happened decades ago.

Give her any date, she said, and she could recall the day of the week, usually what the weather was like on that day, personal details of her life at that time, and major news events that occurred on that date.

Like any good scientist, McGaugh was initially skeptical. But not anymore.

"This is real," he says.

Soon after AJ took over his life, McGaugh teamed with two fellow researchers at the University of California at Irvine. Elizabeth Parker, a clinical professor of psychiatry and neurology (and lead author of a report on the research in the current issue of the journal Neurocase), and Larry Cahill, an associate professor of neurobiology and behavior, have joined McGaugh in putting AJ through an exhaustive series of interviews and psychological tests. But they aren't a lot closer today to understanding her amazing ability than they were when they started.

"We are trying to find out, but we haven't hit 'bingo' yet," says McGaugh.

His initial hypothesis, like several others, has turned out to be wrong — or at least incomplete.

McGaugh has spent decades studying how such things as stress hormones and emotions affect memory, and at first he thought AJ's memories were of such emotional power that she couldn't forget them.

But that hypothesis fell short of the mark when it became obvious that "the woman who can't forget" remembers trivial details as clearly as major events. Asked what happened on Aug 16, 1977, she knew that Elvis Presley had died, but she also knew that a California tax initiative passed on June 6 of the following year, and a plane crashed in Chicago on May 25 of the next year, and so forth. Some may have had a personal meaning for her, but some did not.

"Here's a woman who has very strong memories, but she has very strong memories of things for which I have no memory at all," McGaugh says.

That became particularly clear one day when he asked her out of the blue if she knew who Bing Crosby was.

"I wasn't sure she would know, because she's 40 and wasn't of the Bing Crosby era," he says.

But she did.

"Do you know where he died?" McGaugh asked.

"Oh yes, he died on a golf course in Spain," she answered, and provided the day of the week and the date when the crooner died.

When the researchers asked her to list the dates when they had interviewed her, she "just reeled them off, bang, bang, bang."

She also told McGaugh that on the day after a particular interview, which took place several years ago, he flew to Germany.

"I said what? I went to Germany? I couldn't even remember what year I had gone to Germany," he says.

That level of recall suggests another hypothesis. Some people are able to recall past events by categorizing them. Certain events, or facts, are associated with others, and filed away together so that they may be easier to access. That's a trick that is often used by entertainers who use feats of memory to wow their audience.

AJ does have "some sort of compulsive tendencies. She wants order in her life," McGaugh says. "As a child, she would get upset if her mother changed anything in her room because she had a place for everything and wanted everything in its place.

"So she does categorize events by the date, but that doesn't explain why she remembers it."

Also, her degree of recall is so much greater than any other person's in the scientific literature that it seems unlikely to be the complete answer, McGaugh adds.

She is also quite different from savants who have surfaced from time to time with extraordinary abilities in music, art or memory.

"Some of them can remember every single detail about the particular hobby that they have, such as baseball or calendars or art, but they are very narrow," he says. McGaugh described one person who could memorize a piece of music instantly, and not forget it, but who "couldn't make change or couldn't take a bus because he didn't know where he was."


By contrast, AJ is a " fully functioning person," McGaugh says.

The researchers are preparing to take their work in a new direction in hopes of understanding what is going on here. It's possible AJ's brain is wired differently, and that may show up through magnetic resonance imaging. Testing is expected to begin within six months.

"We will be looking at her brain, using brain scanning techniques, to see if there's anything that is dramatically different that we can point to," McGaugh says.

Those of us with normal, very fallible memories function somewhat like a computer in that different areas of our brains are interconnected and thus better-suited for general memories. We know where we live and how to get to work, but we may not know what the weather was like on this date four years ago.

It's possible that AJ's brain has some "disconnections" that help her recall past events from her memory bank without interference from the parts of her brain that act as general processors. But the problem is that even if they find some interesting wiring through brain scans, the researchers will be limited in their conclusions by the fact that AJ seems to be unique.

So unique, in fact, that the Irvine team has given her condition a new name. They call it hyperthymestic syndrome, based on the Greek word thymesis for "remembering" and hyper, meaning "more than normal."

Some day, the researchers say, they hope to know what's different about AJ's brain, but they are still a ways off.

"In order to explain a phenomenon you have to first understand the phenomenon," McGaugh says. "We're at the beginning."

lettie
03-24-06, 04:59 AM
wow... i kind of kept expecting a punch line at the end. Amazing, and I can't relate at all. As for how my memory works... i might be sol if my name weren't written in my underwear.

chameleon
03-24-06, 05:02 AM
lol
yeah, it's nothing like me either.
i hope they find out what makes her tick so i can get me some!

Tracy H.
03-24-06, 05:59 AM
UH OH! someone discovered the real me :-) I am not really ADD, I am a woman with a PERFECT memory in disguise!! Trawling the boards for something new to remember

(ssshhh..how did you find out Grannycham?)

chameleon
03-24-06, 12:02 PM
I knew it! You're just sitting back there with your perfect memory laughing at all of us! :p

And that's AUNTcham to you missy!

Naomi2
03-24-06, 12:20 PM
Very interesting article which made me a bit jealous :p

I don't like how they called it a syndrome though; maybe 'trait' might have been more suitable.

Maybe 'thymestic hyperfunction'? That would make much more sense.

chameleon
03-24-06, 12:23 PM
I agree naomi.
How about, since they call ADD a disfunction, they call her trait a disfunction as well? :D

Marmalade_man
03-24-06, 12:54 PM
Interesting post:

Up until 1988, for 12 years I worked with a secretary who had the most incredible memory. She could remember down to the smallest detail every letter and correspondence we wrote or received for many years in a busy government office I managed. I am talking about thousands of letters every year.

Later, our Regional Director in our head office learned of her amazing abilities. He was prolific about writing memos and often wanted to check what he had received or written previously in a memo.

Often she would get a telephone call from him saying something like "Louise, I wrote a memo about XYZ or whatever last year, I think and I wanted to find it. When did I write it?" Her typical reply would be 'No that was 18 months ago on April 14th 1883 and you said ..... about that." Withing two minutes, she would have the memo retrieved from the files and would be faxing it to him. She was simply amazing.

Unfortunately, when she got pregnant, all this changed and it never returned. That almost drove her nuts as she relied on that fantastic brain for so many of the marvelous thing she used to do. She couldn't recall hardly any of the vast amount of facts she always was able to remember before.

However, she had everything in the files indexed, catalogued, cross-referenced and organized so that she usually could find anything in a few minutes.

- Vic

chameleon
03-24-06, 01:27 PM
WOW Vic! That's amazing! I wonder if AJ in the article hasn't had babies yet.
You've just given us some proof that we women have been right all along - kids DO make us stupid!
They need to do a study! Figure out how many brain cells we lose with each kid. :rolleyes:
I think I'm down to only 2 left.
I bet proving that theory would keep the population down!

Marmalade_man
03-24-06, 03:36 PM
You've just given us some proof that we women have been right all along - kids DO make us stupid! Oh you could never say Louise was ever stupid. I used to think that she could do any job she wanted in our organization including the Director's if she want to.

All she wanted to do was to be the most fantastic secretary I have ever seen.

She also had shorthand and said my dictation speed was about 180 wpm when I was 'rolling'. She kept me organized, productive and my career on track until she left town to start a business in another city with her husband.

She could also write letters and reports in my style. Sometimes when I would return from out of town, I would see two letters on my desk for a response to a problem. She would say "I wasn't too sure which way you would want to handle this so here are the choices I suggest." I would choose one of them, sign the letter and in a month, I wouldn't even recognize that I hadn't written the original.

FANTASTIC person.

- Vic

chameleon
03-24-06, 03:37 PM
It was a joke. :cool:

Protoslacker
04-14-06, 07:45 AM
"It's possible that AJ's brain has some "disconnections" that help her recall..."

Fascinating how missing parts of the brain structure can account for both her abilities and the abilities of ADDers.

Hey Chameleon, you're right. I read somewhere that pregnancy and lactation hormones temporarily change a woman's brain to be stu- um, I mean, more compatable with raising infants (simpler, more playful, less risky, more vulnerable...) Must be an evolutionary adaptation to prevent normally intelligent women from abandoning their young. ;)

DimensionX
04-14-06, 03:24 PM
sorry, i tried but i couldn't read much of it, is it possible that the person has that....thing....can't remember what it's called but i saw it once in a documentry, basically when ur a baby all ur senses are intertwined so basically u can see sound as images and taste them as well, some people as they grow older still have that, i still can't remember what it's called, but most people as they grow up seperate them otherwise they sometimes become overwhelmed but it's not always the case.

i was wondering if maybe she had a slight combination of that and ocd

but i'm just guessing.....actually thinking about it i think i'm dead wrong....