View Full Version : Voices/Music Overlapping in my head when i'm trying to fall asleep


Cheesetoast
10-22-03, 03:17 AM
Sometimes when i'm trying to fall asleep i'll hear overlapping sounds in my head, sometimes music, sometimes voices, sometimes my own random thoughts, they play over each other then will all of a sudden stop, then i can't even remember what i was 'hearing'. Sometimes the music isn't even a real song that i know, after it plays through for a few seconds in my head i can't even recall it if i wanted to.

any thoughts?

tudorose
10-22-03, 06:49 AM
Try the 'Bach flower remedies' "white chestnut". It's kind of an OCD thing, repetitive, perseverative thinking. It's OK when it's a song, it's not OK when it's a fear.

smooch
10-22-03, 11:33 AM
I tend to experience this also...very frustrating that I seem unable to "turn off my head."

Some type of "white noise" usually helps--a white noise machine or tape/CD, a fan....

Since I've been using the Holosync meditation CD's, this hasn't been as bad. The link below talks about Holosync....

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15968#post15968

BigDaddy
10-22-03, 01:16 PM
when i go 2 the club and stay out all night until like 3am i cant sleep properly as i cant turn the music off in my head. i dont know why that is. i dont get much sleep when taht happens. it only ever happens when i have gone 2 the club mind u. never when i have been 2 the pub. its like i cant shut it off and it goes on and on!!

Keppig
10-24-03, 05:02 PM
I'm like BigDaddy, If I'm listen to an album or watch VH1 late I can't stop the music.. ok I never can stop the music. I'm always waking around with music in my head. This is how bad it is. My son learned a little annoying tune on a show he watched and he knows it annoys me so write before he left for school he said "Hey mom?" and sang the tune... its been playing in my head all day!!

Being serious though. I remember telling my sleep doctor that I would fall asleep so much easier if my brain shut up! It goes on and on. I'm alittel OCD but what I think about are more creations from creativity than anything else.

missing_cues
11-03-03, 01:21 AM
me and my ADD friends play cruel jokes on each other like playing the most annoying songs for each other.....to see how long they will get stuck in our heads......(I am ADD by the way)...the worst so far is the mahna mahna song from teh muppet show.....I had it stuck in my head for days and couldnt get rid of it.....usually jazz of some sort will jar out repetitive music like that though...

waywardclam
11-03-03, 07:14 AM
The Barney Song is another good one for that :D

Wheel1975
11-26-03, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Cheesetoast
Sometimes when i'm trying to fall asleep i'll hear overlapping sounds in my head, sometimes music, sometimes voices, sometimes my own random thoughts, they play over each other then will all of a sudden stop, then i can't even remember what i was 'hearing'. Sometimes the music isn't even a real song that i know, after it plays through for a few seconds in my head i can't even recall it if i wanted to.

any thoughts?

In my personal experience this occurs when i have continued to stay awake , due to ADHD interests, long after i should have gone to sleep.

Sleep deprivation can induce in the suseptible, auditory hallucinations. As long as the "voices" don't tell you to kill people or steal things, etc., few people will get very excited.

But I think the thing I would suggest is that you talk this over with a doctor, and that yo see if getting sleep at appropriate times, before you are over tired, has any impact on reducing this.

Professionals? Any related comments?

Erik_the_Norse
11-30-03, 06:50 PM
I had this in particular as a child, now it is seldom but still occuring. It is mostly when I'm not going to bed that I can hear a voice, a sound, music. I remember I used to start humming myself (in my mind) when the music got too loud in my head as a kid. For me, it helped. I made my own noises, inside my head. You can also humm for real. I did that too. I increased the volume on my voice an went "la la la hmm hmm". :) The noise would "kill" the music/noises that were repeated in my head, at least after a while.

Erik

Salsa
12-01-03, 08:50 PM
It reminds me a little bit of "intrusive thoughts"... (except this would be intrusive music).

I joke about this, but I was posting about it not too long ago on a Bipolar Forum. (I'm "sandinmyears" over there too).

http://neuro-mancer.mgh.harvard.edu/ubb/Forum108/HTML/005394.html

uncle shrek
06-29-11, 01:19 PM
i often hear music in my head,especially just before sleeping and waking up,sometimes voices.i had an experience as a child of a number of chattering voices in my head getting louder and louder.thankfully it has only happened once in my lifetime.it freaked me out!!!
usually when im on holiday in a foreign country,after listening to another language,i will hear many different voices chatting in that language.maybe its my brain trying to process a new language,but cant accept so much so soon.when i was on holiday in sicily,visiting relatives,my cousin spoke to me in italian,and i repeated every word perfectly,although i didnt understand it.

uncle shrek
06-29-11, 01:23 PM
i play bass guitar too.when i was younger i could hear new music in my head,or dream of songs that didnt exist.helped me write a few songs.i cant write that way anymore now.my creativity has been beaten down by societey's a-holes and self important non entities.

fracturedstory
06-29-11, 08:44 PM
i often hear music in my head,especially just before sleeping and waking up,sometimes voices.i had an experience as a child of a number of chattering voices in my head getting louder and louder.thankfully it has only happened once in my lifetime.it freaked me out!!!
usually when im on holiday in a foreign country,after listening to another language,i will hear many different voices chatting in that language.maybe its my brain trying to process a new language,but cant accept so much so soon.when i was on holiday in sicily,visiting relatives,my cousin spoke to me in italian,and i repeated every word perfectly,although i didnt understand it.

I always hears sounds and voices before falling asleep. I know they're just auditory hallucinations, though in the moment they feel real.

CrashBandicoot
12-02-12, 11:12 AM
At first I was under the impression that you were constantly thinking while tired and sometimes forgetting about it but after a second read, that doesn't seem to be the case. If your talking about hearing voices right before falling a sleep then I think what you are experiencing is hypnogogic hillucinations. Hypnogogic hillucinations are pretty common. hypnogogic hillucinations can appear in all the senses, the most noticable ones are auditory and visual hillucinations. Hypnogogic hillucinations occure during the transition from wake to sleep or the onset of sleep which start around the time you begine feeling relaxed. A lot of times these go unnoticed but when one notices it, it is like you have caught your brain talking to itself. A lot of times people will hear someone call their name, like a friend or family member. Other times it could feel like your inner monologe just got louder. When you are closer to sleep, they willturn from mere words to full conversations that sound like a tv is on in another room. OP I wonder how old you are because you said you often times hear music aswell. hearing music in a hypnogogic hillucination is common around mostly middle aged people. I don't know why but for some reason older folk hear music more often than younger people. Also hypnogogic hillucinations can cause jolts in people or startle them awake which can cause sleep problems. These hillucinations are most frantic during sleep paralysis, meaning you are going to hear schizo style conversations in your head, loud and clear as ever including occasional visual images in your room. As a practicing lucid dreamer, you learn about these kind of things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia#Tetris_effect

SpaceBaby
12-02-12, 11:55 AM
It's called hypnopompic hallucinations, I find they tend to happen when I'm messing with my sleep cycle by, for example, getting up in the middle of the night to be online for an hour or two (sometimes I hallucinate during what's called a sleep paralysis, which happens shortly before falling asleep or waking up).

Sometimes random images flash through my mind and other times I hear a memory of myself or something I heard on TV or something like that....
I had a really funny one recently where the "old mcdonald" song was playing in my head and I was imagining a dancing horse that looked like Bullseye from Toy story 2.. :lol:

CrashBandicoot
12-10-12, 10:16 PM
It's called hypnopompic hallucinations, I find they tend to happen when I'm messing with my sleep cycle by, for example, getting up in the middle of the night to be online for an hour or two (sometimes I hallucinate during what's called a sleep paralysis, which happens shortly before falling asleep or waking up).

Sometimes random images flash through my mind and other times I hear a memory of myself or something I heard on TV or something like that....
I had a really funny one recently where the "old mcdonald" song was playing in my head and I was imagining a dancing horse that looked like Bullseye from Toy story 2.. :lol:


You get the most auditory hillucinations during sleep paralysis. thats when those hillucinations are most clear because the brain waves that produce dreams are persistant. when you get them before and after sleep, they are usually less clear and less frequent but If you pay attention to them, you will notice them more. you can also notice faint distortion in your own inner voice sometimes when talking to yourself in a relaxed position ready for sleep. You might here your own thoughts get sorta loud at times or getting lose. You might sometimes find yourself questioning whether that was your own thought or not. They start out very subtle like that until it graduates to full scale auditory hillucinations.

I remember this one time When I attempted a wake induced lucid dream, I woke up from a dream, I layed down to try and re enter it. The sensations started happening and I had a change of heart trying to get up but sleep paralysis kicked in. I Said no to myself and I hear what sounded like a hundred different people yeilling/sreaming "NO" in my head. its like it echoed repeatingly in my head. it was the weirdest, creepiest yet coolest experience I ever had, besides lucid dreaming.

Fun fact: The 3d hypnogogic imagery where you can actually interact with them are considered NONREM dreams.


Are you a fellow lucid dreamer? just wondering

SpaceBaby
12-11-12, 12:34 PM
LOL, I can relate to hearing my innervoice being sort of disorted and loud in my head, it happened when I was on Benadryl. I was thinking of a grass pokemon, then my inner voice was like "I don't like carrots when they're so raaaawwwww". :lol:

Also reminds me of one time during a sleep paralysis, I was seeing Gir from invader zim dancing on the ceiling saying "doodee doodee doodee doodee". :lol:

Oh yeah, I use to induce lucid dreams using binaural beats. I don't have lucid dreaming very often anymore because I'm not using binaural beats anymore. Sometimes I still have lucid dreams, not sure what exactly causes it though.

CrashBandicoot
12-14-12, 02:31 PM
LOL, I can relate to hearing my innervoice being sort of disorted and loud in my head, it happened when I was on Benadryl. I was thinking of a grass pokemon, then my inner voice was like "I don't like carrots when they're so raaaawwwww". :lol:

Also reminds me of one time during a sleep paralysis, I was seeing Gir from invader zim dancing on the ceiling saying "doodee doodee doodee doodee". :lol:

Oh yeah, I use to induce lucid dreams using binaural beats. I don't have lucid dreaming very often anymore because I'm not using binaural beats anymore. Sometimes I still have lucid dreams, not sure what exactly causes it though.


How do Binaural beats work exactly or how do you use them? Do you use them when you try to re enter sleep or prior to it?

I use the wake induced method where you get up from a few hours of rest and then go back to sleep when REM is still active and my dorsolateral prerontal cortex is awake.

ADDinHDefgHi?!
12-14-12, 03:34 PM
I actually am more concerned when I don't hear music in my head, music is my barometer of mental health in a sense. If things are going well and I'm aligned with the powers that be music comes through me and it is pleasant and relaxing.

I still have trouble turning off my thoughts when going to sleep, a lot of times I find that I'm not sleeping because I'm visualizing the chord changes to whatever song I'm listening to and thinking of different ways to play it. I teach music so I spend a lot of time figuring out songs and it's hard for me to turn that part of me off.

The thing that helps me the most is to play some sort of soft instrumental music, Bach is ideal, I especially like the cello suites. I've also been listening to Bill Evans on the piano when I sleep lately, his sound is so subtle and non intrusive yet hypnotizing. It really helps to turn my mind off and get me to sleep. Works better than Ambien or other sleeping pills.

SpaceBaby
12-15-12, 10:15 PM
How do Binaural beats work exactly or how do you use them? Do you use them when you try to re enter sleep or prior to it?

I use the wake induced method where you get up from a few hours of rest and then go back to sleep when REM is still active and my dorsolateral prerontal cortex is awake.

Well, you have to use headphones or earbuds for it to work best (or have computer speakers near your ears, that's how I did it the first time). Personally, the first time I had a lucid dream (more like a false awakening) was minutes after hearing binaural beats, but I find that it also works if I try using it to go to sleep.

fracturedstory
12-16-12, 12:18 AM
I hear music/voices overlapping in my head but they're not hallucinations. I get the hallucinations too.

It's just like having a song in your head and 5 different thoughts at once.

The hallucinations are more short and hard to decipher. The music in my head feels like what happens after I stand too close to a speaker at a concert. It either sounds like construction, organ music or the subway tunnel. Sometimes it sounds like lsitening to a distorted radio.

SpaceBaby
12-16-12, 08:47 AM
I find that if I deprive myself of sleep, definitely will hear incoherent voices or sometimes a word, phrase, or even a piece of music will loop over and over inside my head (with long pause breaks of course, otherwise that would drive me insane, :lol:).

It's sort of interesting when I hear voices because they tend to sound like one-way conversations (it's like what hearing only one side of a phone call).
For example, something like "Uh huh... I know right? ...wow, you don't say?" :eyebrow:
I think it might be replaying a conversation or rehearsing one, much like the internal monologues I always have in my head, but for some reason it's not coherent.

Barliman
12-16-12, 11:20 AM
A couple of good solutions
1) train in progressive muscle relaxation techniques for 2 weeks.
2) The use a sleep hypnosis tape at bedtime and pay close attention.

3) This is a good one:
look straight ahead.
Raise your right thumb and place it horizontally across your outer left visual field. Slowly lower the thumb and watch it closely.
Shut your eyes and bring the thumb up quickly, then follow it down slowly.
Do 4 repetitions
Exercise 2: head straight forwards.
Look hard to the right and look at your right thumb pointing upwards.
Follow the eyes with a still head as far as you can.
Shut your eyes and bring back the thumb to starting position.
Do 4 repetitions in all.

Repeat exercise a few days until setled.

Perseverative thoughts like tunes you can't get out of your head, or the recurrent urge to cry are due t overactiveation in the dopamine pathways to the left brain.

These exercises stimulate ritht brain, and settle the problem well.

CrashBandicoot
12-18-12, 09:30 AM
LOL, I can relate to hearing my innervoice being sort of disorted and loud in my head, it happened when I was on Benadryl. I was thinking of a grass pokemon, then my inner voice was like "I don't like carrots when they're so raaaawwwww". :lol:

Also reminds me of one time during a sleep paralysis, I was seeing Gir from invader zim dancing on the ceiling saying "doodee doodee doodee doodee". :lol:

Oh yeah, I use to induce lucid dreams using binaural beats. I don't have lucid dreaming very often anymore because I'm not using binaural beats anymore. Sometimes I still have lucid dreams, not sure what exactly causes it though.


speaking of inner voices getting distorted. last night before going back to sleep, I was talking to myself and then suddenly my voice sounded like a women speaking:eyebrow: