A study in the creativity thread said that people with AD/HD are more likely to score high on the intuitive and perceptive scales of the Myers Briggs Test. I thought we should do our own study with this online test. I am an introverted intuitive feeling perceptive (INFP)

This test isn't the original Myers Briggs but a test that sorts on the same traits - the Kiersey Temperament Sorter. The Myers Briggs is a well known and used test:

MMDI (http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi-re/mmdi-re.htm)

There are better descriptions of the 16 personality types on the web.
Eg.
http://www.typelogic.com/
http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mb-types/mb-types.htm
(click on the type names in the box for more detailed descriptions)

There's heaps more too. Just do a google on your type.

My type fits me perfectly. It says I should do psychology, counselling, teaching, research, learning or art. And I have done all of those things at some time. At the moment I have a job that is part researching and part counselling and I am a practicing artist, lol.

Woops. Someone just said in the creativity thread that this has already been done. Doh.

It's ok..tis the place for 'dohs', gecko, LOL !!!!

And we've had a discussion, about the MBTI, on here, last October (05)- if you want to do a search for it.

With links to tests.

i've taken the meyers-briggs a number of times,each time garnering either a result of infj or infp.

Here's the link on this forum, to the discussion on the MBTI.


http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3106#post3106

Certainly nothing wrong with revisiting the topic.

One thing that strikes me about these results is how much personality (or our perceptions of our personalities at least) seems driven by our mental abilities.

The high numbers of NP types (I am consisently INTP myself), far out of the ratios reported by the general population, seems to show that our ADHD really fundamentally affects the way we behave and think about ourselves.

I personally don't associate the MBTI typologies (not how I'm familiar with them-and again-one online link, nor one online test, does not make a 'law' when it comes to MBTI tests) with any disorders.

Nova, there has been a scientific study done on it that found we are more NP. And the survey that was done on this website confirmed the results. Bit of a select population here (ie socioeconomically, culturally, possibly intellectually, etc since we are the lucky few who have and are literate with computers), but still....
I reckon the P type would be intuitively related to ADDers but I dunno about the N type necessarily. N being looking at the bigger picture - more interested in theories and systems than facts, etc. Fits with us apparently being better at divergent thinking in creativity research.
Apparently in a survey, almost 83% of national merit scholarship finalists and 92% of Rhodes Scholars were intuitive students even though another survery said the larger percentage -between 56% and 72% -of over 16,000 freshmen at three state universities were sensing students. And almost 64% of Rhodes Scholars were perceptive students. :)

If I'm not mistaken, MBTI type describe preferences, not abilities. I could see ADDers possibly developing a preference torward intuition as a result of not attending to information, and I could see an ADDer with an intuitive ability possibly performing better than ADDers with lesser ability in academic situations (at least, with respect to learning, not being punctual) because they rely less on gathering information and more on seeing patterns.

Again, I stated my opinion on the MBTI, with all due respect to you, Gecko.

I have my reservations about such 'scientific' studies.

From what I've studied of it, HF, it describes the individual functions, of an individual.

Since, there is no way to measure the accuracy of someone taking an the test, without actually sitting 'right there with them' while they are taking it, the results may not always be accurate. (0;

Also, online tests are sometimes deceiving because they may label an individual to have one function- i.e. Extrovert, when the individual only measure 18% in that specific function.
Hence they are actually an Introvert- yet the test still claims them as an Extrovert.

Since, there is no way to measure the accuracy of someone taking an the test, without actually sitting 'right there with them' while they are taking it, the results may not always be accurate. (0;

Yes, exactly.... Not only that, but are the tests designed around the functions themselves, or the descriptions of types commonly given (e.g. INTP =~ ".......", ESTJ =~ ".....", etc).

But do MBTI tests actually measure functions as abilities? They don't actually test intuition, they simply measure how much you use it (preference). Of course, they may test your intution if you are given such a test at work and need to answer "correctly", if you know what I mean.

"Since, there is no way to measure the accuracy of someone taking an the test, without actually sitting 'right there with them' while they are taking it, the results may not always be accurate. (0;"

The answers are based on subjective judgment of preferences so it shouldn't matter if someone is sitting next to you or not. Unless you are talking about understanding the instructions but the instructions are pretty simple. Anyway, the norms of the results for the online test are based on self administration not other administration.

"Also, online tests are sometimes deceiving because they may label an individual to have one function- i.e. Extrovert, when the individual only measure 18% in that specific function.
Hence they are actually an Introvert- yet the test still claims them as an Extrovert."

When the test talks about being 18% on extraversion it means 18% on the extraversion scale which is introversion on the lower end (up to 50%) and extraversion beyond 50%.

"Yes, exactly.... Not only that, but are the tests designed around the functions themselves, or the descriptions of types commonly given (e.g. INTP =~ ".......", ESTJ =~ ".....", etc)."

Any of the types that have the same function eg. 'Perceptive' will have those preferences in function in common, though the P will interact with the other components of personality.

"I personally don't associate the MBTI typologies (not how I'm familiar with them-and again-one online link, nor one online test, does not make a 'law' when it comes to MBTI tests) with any disorders."

Certainly, a couple of studies doesn't make a law. But, NPs are supposed to represent about 12% of the population and represent about 60% of the population of this site. INFP is supposed to represent 1% of the population but represents 24% of the AD/HD people on this forum - a 24 fold increase. I do research for a living and I'd be surprised if that was an anomoly even accounting for the select population.

From accounts of people in the forum who have done the originial MBTI and my own results on both tests - the results turn out the same.

The refer to N (intuition) as a function- and depending on how high you score as an N, would depend upon how much you qualify as an N type.

The MBTI test itself does have a few questions related to a few categories that would qualify under *intuition*- but it does NOT measure how developed your intuition actually is.

The other function, in opposition to N would be S (for sensing), which would be a type that utilizes tactical functions (hearing, tasting, seeing, touching, and smelling)

This is one forum, Gecko, of thousands.
And one which has really nothing to do with the MBTI.

I relate to your passion about this subject, but in that passion, I've also made note of making a point of not assuming everything to be *law* (i.e. black and white).

I so adore your passion, though, and I love that we both have understanding MBTI typologies in common.

Also, one type is NEVER the same as another.
There are what is known as 'wings' involved, and depending on if someone has them, or doesn't- it would make an entire difference in how a person functions, even if they are the same type.

So again, please keep some of these notes in mind.

That's why it's important to really understand all the details involved, if you do have an interest in understanding the MBTI.

The MBTI test itself does have a few questions related to a few categories that would qualify under *intuition*- but it does NOT measure how developed your intuition actually is.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all.

They don't actually test intuition, they simply measure how much you use it (preference).

Your tendency to use/prefer a function. I think were using different words to describe the same thing...

I can flip the results of these things according to mood....heck change the CD I am listening to and watch the results change again! Results depend on weather or not I am on medications!

I have tested "positive" for every thing but introversion!

YOU, ARE A TRIP, GIRLY GIRL !!!

Glad you're back !!

And I love all your personalities !!

N doesn't refer to intuition as it is normally defined, no. Also the scales refer to preferences in functioning and being one or the other doesnt mean that you can't be the opposing type if you want.
We are talking about the relationship between MBTI personality type and ADD so that is how it relates here.

"I've also made note of making a point of not assuming everything to be *law* (i.e. black and white)."

There will be plenty of exceptions to the NP type in ADDers of course.