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04-23-06, 02:51 AM
What has been your experience? Good? Bad? Do you think that it affects your alcohol tolerance?
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View Full Version : Adderall and Alcohol Rhodeo 04-23-06, 02:51 AM What has been your experience? Good? Bad? Do you think that it affects your alcohol tolerance? Thanks! stanzen 04-23-06, 03:51 AM Amphetamines give the illusion that your tolerance to alcohol is increased. A dangerous misconception behind the wheel. Otherwise, they are somewhat independant agents. I've observed normal people and druggies take amphetamines to help them stay up to drink longer. When I used to drink (I don't now) never had trouble staying all night to to drink. Shielded 04-23-06, 04:47 PM Either I don't feel the intoxication as much or it has improved my tolerance. Maybe you are at the same level of drunkiness as you normally would be, but the effect of the adderall masks the feeling of it? PlainlyOrdinary 04-23-06, 06:50 PM from what i know and what i've experienced, mixing stimulants and depessants is a bad idea. your cardiovascular system is presented with a "moral dilemma" of sorts. does it speed up heart rate/respiration or slow it down? it's fighting with itself. this is why mixing amphetamines and heroin(a "speedball") is often regarded as the riskiest and deadliest recreational drug combination. i know that in my experience, mixing adderall and alcohol has made me feel terrible and, many times, has given me chest pains. Shielded 04-23-06, 07:39 PM I love mixing stimulants and depressants....not good, but certainly fun. panthoot 04-25-06, 07:13 PM I can't tolerate alcohol at all on Adderall. I can handle one glass of wine or one beer in a day, absolute max. Any more and I'm nauseated, can't sleep for feeling sick, and I'm terribly hungover. Shielded 04-25-06, 08:22 PM That's weird. I can absolutely shove alcohol down my throat when I'm on adderall and I love the way it makes me feel. Jessica84 04-25-06, 11:45 PM I can definitly tolerate alcohol and adderall. It's probley not the best idea, but we all do things that aren't the best of ideas sometimes. Actually, I'm 5'3 110 lbs. and I can outdrink my husband who's 5'10 and 160 somethin pounds.... stanzen 04-26-06, 03:55 AM Mixing amphetamine and alcohol or other drugs can certainly boost the reinforcing and pleasurable effects of the individual drugs. Therein lies the danger if you are at all prone to addiction; the amplified pleasurable feelings do increase the liability for craving and dependance. And, as I mentioned earlier, the illusion that you are not as drunk or as incapacitated as you really are, or that you can hold more liquor than usual, can also be a danger. Just a few things to keep in mind. You know the routine: you still shouldn't drink and drive, with or without adderall. If you're in an unsafe situation and you're getting drunk, you might want to get out of there, with or without adderall. But the combo is not intrinsically lethal, not like mixing barbiturates or valium with alcohol which leads to a very dangerous, synergistic potentiation of effect, or in laymens terms: high probability of keeling over unconscious, and maybe forgetting to breath, forever-like. drichard1234 04-26-06, 09:35 AM I had a friend who took adderall, ephedra, and drank a bunch one night. His heart stopped when he was taken to the hospital. They revived him, but mixing uppers with downers is very stupid. panthoot 04-27-06, 01:05 AM I think taking "a bunch" of anything is stupid. Plenty of people take Adderall or Ritalin and drink "downers" in a responsible manner. Mike&Ikes 04-28-06, 09:13 PM Ok I take 90mg of Amphetamine Salts 30x3 sometome I take 120 mgs or 150mgs a day a day then Zoloft 50mg 1x day then diazepam 5mg when ever I need it usually 3 at a time once or twice a day. At around 8 pm I take 75mgs of a 100mg Seroquel helps me chill out and sleep. Ear plugs really help to. But when I run out im fine with it. What works best for me through out my day and helps me to be happy and nice to people is Drinking Bawls, or Red BUll, Or Rock Star energy drinks. I drink at least 3 energy drinks a day. No coffee.... bad mixing with meds for me I start gettin the jitters and sh*t. Yeah taking a bunch of vitamins is stupid. I just wish I could get a grip on this hostility thing. I have always had a problem with authority. Talkin to doctors didnt work and neither did prison. The adderall is gettin old though. I am ranting so dont get on me. Whe I go see my doctor next month anyone have any recomendations on a medication that will help with my anger and bad thoughts? panthoot 04-29-06, 11:46 PM Taking a bunch of vitamins can certainly make you sick. Taking too much Vitamin C, for example, can give you diarrhea and stomach cramps quite easily. It can even cause miscarriages in early-term pregnant women! Everything in moderation. :) autumtoashes 04-30-06, 02:03 AM I went to this party with a friend, and I took a shot of tequila rose, and maybe about 5 minutes later, I felt a little nauseated. But after like 20 minutes or so, it felt like the adderall had like re-booted itself like i just took it again, and I hadn't since the morning, soo there must be something going on with those two mixing together. mzmelissa26 05-20-06, 01:40 PM What about taking Ecstasy at night after you have taken your dose of Adderal in the am?? What can happen/what effects to you if you mix these two? Hyperion 05-20-06, 03:22 PM What about taking Ecstasy at night after you have taken your dose of Adderal in the am?? What can happen/what effects to you if you mix these two? Well, they're both stimulants, so you'd likely wind up eing more prone to the usual stimulant overdose dangers: dehydration, tachycardia (rapid heart rate), hypertension (high lood pressure) eing the most common, ut also an increase in the risk of Very ad ut less likely issues like strokes, CVAs hypertensive crises, etc. On the suject of alcohol, I found that at first, Adderall increased my tolerance. However, over time I found that it had an indirect effect, in that I really don't drink that much any more, and as a result have very little tolerance for alcohol. A few weeks ago a good friend of mine was deployed with the Peace Corps, and so we ad a large going-away party at his favorite ar...and I realized that it was the first time I'd actually had more than a few drinks in over a year. susane 05-20-06, 03:59 PM I just started taking Adderall and it made me see why I drank in the first place. I was trying to find some way to numb my ADD anxiety. Now that I am on Adderall I don't really have the urge to drink at all because the anxiety is gone. I did have a few drinks the other night when I was out with a friend and the anxiety started to come back under the influence of the alchohol. Ummm...about the ecstacy...I wouldn't do that if I were you. drichard1234 05-22-06, 11:57 PM Normally I won't take adderall within 10+ hours of me drinking, but on Friday I had to. So, it was about 4 hours after I had taken it, and my friends were all celebrating my birthday at a bar. Now, I have an awesome alcohol tolerance, I mean -- awesome. I get to the bar at 11:30, 3 Jagerbombs, 3 shots, 2 beers, and 2 Irish carbombs later, it's 12:20. Now, not bragging, I can handle this much no problem. I'm not big, just got a great liver :D But, that's the last thing I remember. I blacked out hardCORE and just continued to drink and make a fool out of myself lol. I woke up in the morning after my friends got me in bed and I hit my head on everything too heh. Now, I'm going to blame this on the adderall. Here's why (I've thought about it,): Adderall causes some people (including me) slight short-term memory problems, nothing major, just I've noticed it. The reason you normally blackout is that there is so much alcohol in your blood that it's disrupting the chemical reactions that form short-term memories in your brain. I think that's what caused me to blackout. So, I would say don't take too much before you drink, unless you are extremely familiar with it!! Also, uppers with downers aren't usually good! thailux 05-23-06, 12:14 AM Normally I won't take adderall within 10+ hours of me drinking, but on Friday I had to. So, it was about 4 hours after I had taken it, and my friends were all celebrating my birthday at a bar. Now, I have an awesome alcohol tolerance, I mean -- awesome. I get to the bar at 11:30, 3 Jagerbombs, 3 shots, 2 beers, and 2 Irish carbombs later, it's 12:20. Now, not bragging, I can handle this much no problem. I'm not big, just got a great liver :D But, that's the last thing I remember. I blacked out hardCORE and just continued to drink and make a fool out of myself lol. I woke up in the morning after my friends got me in bed and I hit my head on everything too heh. Now, I'm going to blame this on the adderall. Here's why (I've thought about it,): Adderall causes some people (including me) slight short-term memory problems, nothing major, just I've noticed it. The reason you normally blackout is that there is so much alcohol in your blood that it's disrupting the chemical reactions that form short-term memories in your brain. I think that's what caused me to blackout. So, I would say don't take too much before you drink, unless you are extremely familiar with it!! Also, uppers with downers aren't usually good! I can't believe that there are so many irresponsible people around here. And, beside the fact that they are a danger to themselves, they are so without a clue they actually give this kind of ridiculous advice to other people. Sure, you're not bragging or telling people to drink that much. But, did you ever really stop and think about what message your post was actually sending? You HAD to drink while on medication? Or, was it that you wanted to, and were to childish to stop yourself. (Nevermind the fact that drinking that much in that short a time is dangerous on its own.) I know I am being harsh. I just can't believe that this is the society that we live in. When it's on TV I try to think it's an exageration, but then someone makes a post like this and forces me to remember that it's not. Sorry for the rant, but drinking like that while on medication is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Just ask your pharmacist, you can't trust a stranger on the internet. I asked mine and they said that one drink or so with dinner, once in a while, is fine. So long as the medication was taken in the morning. But again, don't trust people on the internet. Ask your doctor or pharmacist. drichard1234 05-23-06, 12:08 PM Okay. :soapbox: But, did you ever really stop and think about what message your post was actually sending? I know I am being harsh. I just can't believe that this is the society that we live in. When it's on TV I try to think it's an exageration, but then someone makes a post like this and forces me to remember that it's not. Sorry for the rant, but drinking like that while on medication is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Just ask your pharmacist, you can't trust a stranger on the internet. I asked mine and they said that one drink or so with dinner, once in a while, is fine. So long as the medication was taken in the morning. But again, don't trust people on the internet. Ask your doctor or pharmacist. Had you READ the post that this thread started upon you would realize that I answered the question. Ad hominem really isn't necessary and all it shows is a lack of critical thought. The original question was related to 'personal experiences.' Therefore, it could be inferred that the original poster will at least trust what we say our personal experience was. I would hope they trust my recount of my own experience and then use it to influence their own judgment to either drink or not drink on the medication. This is why all you had to write was a personal experience or your opinion that everyone should not deviate from the strict guidelines set forth by the pharmacist/doctor. (And not calling people 'childish' or their advice 'rediculous'.) Drinking on any medication is practically verboten and what your pharmacist told you applies to 99.99% of medications out there. If a person wants to be 100% safe, then don't drink while on medications, period. Please don't try to preach to people on the internet about what you think is right and wrong when it comes to personal behavior - that is a major annoyance to a lot of people (even outside of a computer.) deco 05-23-06, 02:50 PM adderall keeps me sober therefor I now spend whole lot more on alcohol, especially when at bars/clubs. It sucks. MattyB 05-23-06, 03:25 PM In my experience, Adderall has really helped tone down the way I used to be at bars. I'm much better able to hold one conversation with a group or individual, rather than feel the need to bounce all over the entire place spending 1 minute with everyone. I'm also not distracted by the 1000's of things going on at once and I am better able to focus on the people I'm with, even while drinking. I'm also better able to know when to stop drinking, rather then get outta control like I used to. I'm less spontaneous at bars, meaning that I won't just blow 100 bucks on shots for the group of people I'm with...which kinda sucks for them. I also think twice about taking random girls home too. Adderall has given me much better control over myself when I drink. thailux 05-23-06, 03:43 PM Okay. :soapbox: Had you READ the post that this thread started upon you would realize that I answered the question. Ad hominem really isn't necessary and all it shows is a lack of critical thought. The original question was related to 'personal experiences.' Therefore, it could be inferred that the original poster will at least trust what we say our personal experience was. I would hope they trust my recount of my own experience and then use it to influence their own judgment to either drink or not drink on the medication. This is why all you had to write was a personal experience or your opinion that everyone should not deviate from the strict guidelines set forth by the pharmacist/doctor. (And not calling people 'childish' or their advice 'rediculous'.) I recognize that this is a thread of personal experiences. I have no complaint or concern for what you do. Had you READ my response, not only would have found a logic underlying it, you would have understood that my complaint is that within your telling of a personal experience is a recommendation. It is subtle, but there. Your experience tells us to drink like a fool and everything will be fine. My problem rests in the fact that people brag about their potentially dangerous actions, with nary a mention of the consequences. Then, they add a simple little disclaimer at the end that is supposed to cancel out the damaging message that has already been sent - like your claim that you are not bragging. Also, just because someone asks for our experiences with drinking while on medication does not mean that we should provide information that will enable them. Too often on these forums people ask about questionable behavior, mostly for the sole purpose of finding someone to justify what they want to do. We see this with questions about drinking, increasing medication dosages without a doctor, etc. Just because someone asks for this information does not mean we should give it to them. Or, if we do, not in a way that will enable them. This forum provides a great service with the aid of all of its members. However, with that comes responsibility. You mention critical thought. Well, use it. Think about why they are asking others for these experiences and what your response will do for them. The story you told does nothing but justify binge drinking while taking Adderall. You talk of blacking out, which is serious, but your tone negates any recommendation of caution. It's all just a joke. I don't mean to pick on you in particular. It just happened to be your post that sparked this. I know you are in college and there is a lot of drinking. Maybe you handle it in a responsible way. I would just be careful with the message you send. We need to think a little more about what we are really saying before we post. After all, I am sure you do not want to provide someone with a reason or justification to do something dangerous. meriellyn 05-23-06, 05:34 PM I find that my drinking has lessened (in frequency, not quantity) since I started Adderall. For a while there I was using other substances to try to feel better. With the Adderall I feel better about myself and my life so I don't feel the desire to drink as often. Drinking and the like has become purely recreational again and I'm very happy about that. As far as the interaction when I do drink... I don't take Adderall on the weekends and that's generally when I drink. I try not to mix the two. I have had a few drinks after my doses wore off and I haven't noticed much difference. The first week or so I got a buzz a bit faster but that evened out when I evened out on the Adderall. I'm not the best person to compare experiences to though since I have a pretty high tolerance naturally, plus I was a pretty heavy drinker for a while. Andi 05-23-06, 10:55 PM Since this thread has taken on a tone of substance abuse I have moved all of you to the Addiction and Substance Abuse Section. Perhaps the insight of these members can enlighten some on the "true" benefits of mixing substances. To some I'm preaching to the choir, to others you may not want to hear this but it is well known that the combination of alcohol and methamphetamine makes the heart work harder and consume more oxygen, which may produce unwanted effects, depends on the person I know but there are consequences...you play with fire, prepare to be burned. Alcohol consumption may also suppress the breakdown of amphetamines, causing elevations in blood levels of the drug...well, let's put it this way, what sounds like recreational fun has killed some...your life, your choice but let's keep the "instructions" on the down lo and keep the support on the forefront. Let's all play nice :) meadd823 05-24-06, 03:08 AM Now, I have an awesome alcohol tolerance, I mean -- awesome. I get to the bar at 11:30, 3 Jagerbombs, 3 shots, 2 beers, and 2 Irish carbombs later, it's 12:20. Now, not bragging, I can handle this much no problem. I'm not big, just got a great liver But, that's the last thing I remember. I blacked out hardCORE and just continued to drink and make a fool out of myself lol. I woke up in the morning after my friends got me in bed and I hit my head on everything too heh I am not aginst partying if that is your thing..... BUT Let us consult common sense and a little chemistry here okay… You had all this alcohol with you meds and assume tolerance……. What in reality happened is that you were a wide awake drunk ..the medication obviously did not keep you from getting drunk. According to your post seems like you managed to do this to the point of black out. Speed in no way reverses the effects of alcohol period doesn’t happen chemically speaking. You felt wider awake which is the perceptions of higher tolerance ie you can remain awake longer because the med is a central nervous system stimulant. However you still get drunk……chemically speaking you still have the effects of the alcohol….just not the perception thereof because you fell less drowsy The big problem especially if one is not experienced here is due to the effects of the stimulant medication you will stay awake and consume more alcohol than your body needs …black out drunks rarely have a lick of common sense. .they are often a danger to themselves at the very least…..… The bottom line is when one consumes enough alcohol the body passes out!!! There is for a reason for this……number one is passing out is like an automatic shut off value. It is your body’s way get you to STOP DRINKING…..because chemically you have had enough! More alcohol than your body can metabolize=alcohol poisoning!!! Vomiting is another protective mechanism your body has. It is an indicator that you have consumed too much too fast. Your body is getting rid of it to keep being poisoned by it! BTW-Alcohol chemically dehydrates you by removing the fluid from the cells and pulling it into your blood stream. This is why drinking makes you have to go to the bathroom! AHmmmm it also chemically dehydrates the brain! Hang overs any one!!! Mixing mass amounts of chemicals knowing little about the chemical working of various drugs with in the body – not good for the life span! Over indulgence is never a good thing and can lead to damage that is irreversible! Certainly not some thing that others should be encouraged to do. I am not trying to scare any one if in doubts me then please take the good advise below! Just ask your pharmacist vmills 10-27-08, 11:58 PM bad idea. i havent but i know a friend that did. super depression the 3 days after. i have done my share of drugs in my past years and have been clean since. i know just from no add meds and E, I would feel the effects. Dont test your brain like that. I am on adderall now and i know that possibly my add become worse because of all the drugs i use to do. I am glad i have the chance to be clear headed and not put myself at risk like that. Be safe not stupid, especially if your on add meds. saradoll 10-28-08, 12:05 AM Does it feel weird to anybody? I get this really warm fuzzy feeling which is nice at first but later becomes too overwhelming to be comfortable :/ saradoll 10-28-08, 12:06 AM It makes me depressed too ugh it took me a while to realize it was after DRINKING specifically ADDInWI 11-14-08, 11:58 AM What the heck people? You shouldn't be taking any drugs at all when you are on a medication (which is a controlled substance..ie drug!) to begin with. Alcohol should be used very sparingly if at all. Just my .02 Mindspin 11-14-08, 12:14 PM OH hardly any drinking at all with me and adderall, itll make me 14 different kinds of sick, the kind of sick that makes people utter between breaths offering gifts to the porcelin goddess " ill.....ne..ver....drink........a-gain." Wine, is about all i can do anymore. especially now that im actually taking my meds right. and even that is limited, maybe 3-4 glasses in an entire night. |