These drugs have been compared extensively, and it seems apparent that d-amphetamine is superior to l-amphetamine, therefore mg vs mg dexedrine should be more potent then adderall. Adderall and dexedrine are approximately twice as potent as d-methylphenidate. Most doctors seem to perscribe adderall simply because in literature it is shown to have the longest duration of action, superior to dexedrine. Now here's the problem... the only reason adderall lasts longer is because of the l-amphetamine salts found in it which half a slightly longer half life then d-amphetamine. Most people say l-amphetamine is useless due to its low ratio of central/ peripheral effects. I would agree that taking a pure l-amphetamine pill would be unbeneficial, but i think ppl don't appreciate the effects of the l-amphetamine enough. As is the case, most street 'speed' in Europe is amphetamine sulphate, and no addict would deny that this has euphorant effects. I have found the adderall to be more euphoric then dexedrine, as have most of my friends who have tried both. Undoubtably some people perfer dexedrine, but the general consencus seems to rest on adderall. I think that the l-amphetamine and d-amphetamine potentiate eachother and the intensity of the experience surpasses pure d-amphetamine. I have no literature evidence to back this up however. I wouldn't be surprised if this was also the case if l-meth and d-meth were put in one pill and compared to desoxyn.

That is a wonderful example of a "red herring" post.

Try injecting espresso into your bloodstream. If you did you would get the rush and crash typical of addiction. Same goes for sniffing glue...rush/crash because the drug is in your brain in seconds or even microseconds. Now ingest glue, espresso, or stimulants and it is a completely different story. Addiction is all in the delivery system. Stimulants taken as prescribed are considered to be one of the safest AND the most effective drugs out there.

Please elaborate on how this is a 'red herring' post. I am studying pharmacology/biochemistry at University so the pharmacodynamics of ADD medication interest me. I am also ADD myself and take adderall. I am insulted by the ignorance of your post. I would have expected a much more intelligent reply from someone with your 'posting' experience. Perhaps you simply shrugged me off since I am new and in your view less experienced and don't know what I'm talking about. I know the purpose of this forum was to discuss the efficacy of ADD medications in particular, adderall. I'm sorry... but I think anyone who first took adderall would lie if they said they didn't get happy from it, euphoria= happiness, i think you got that confused with 'high'. And as for your comment about delivery system please tell me where in my post i referred to snorting or injecting? I take adderall orally thank you. Amphetamine releases dopamine and epinephrine, and some of the dopamine is released in the nucleus accumbens, which unfortunetly, is the seed for ALL addictions. Yes, I am addicted to adderall in that it makes me normal, after about a week of taking it the 'euphoria' went away, as my body adjusted to it, but its still does wonders for my add symptoms, and no... i didn't increases the dosage. Basically i was trying to see if any one agreed with my theory that l-amph +d-amph is more effective then d-amph. The more euphoric it was= the more dopamine released= it was more effective, and that includes managing the list of ADD symptoms.

"Now ingest glue, espresso, or stimulants and it is a completely different story. Addiction is all in the delivery system. Stimulants taken as prescribed are considered to be one of the safest AND the most effective drugs out there."

And no, addiction is not all in the delivery system. Please don't compare expresso, glue, to heroin and cocaine. Im sorry but if you swallow amphetamine and drink expresso the addictive potential is higher for amphetamine due to the dopamine released, just because you swallow it doesn't mean you can't get addicted. I guess you feel very sensitive about this topic maybe that's why you tried to dismiss my post. Delivery system will determine the intensity of the drug and how quickly you will get addicted, but over a long enough time period its inevitable regardless of the delivery system. I agree completely with your last line however.

Before this turns into something bad, let me remind you both to avoid direct insults.

The topic is very worthy of discussion and member input, and it'd be a shame to have to close things down because someone gets a little out of hand :).

Thanks and please continue :)